Diego Pavia and Paul Finebaum are this week’s Netflix Sports Club guests. Paul Finebaum, the voice of the SEC, drops a bold national championship prediction that might give the Big Tenners pause, and he reveals which SEC quarterback has him starstruck. Vanderbilt quarterback, Diego Pavia, gives a standout performance on and off the field in SEC Football: Any Given Saturday. He relives that improbable ‘Bama victory, including pre-game routine and why he thinks this victory changed the conversation about Vandy football - sorry Nick Saban. Paul Fineman and Diego Pavia gaze into the crystal ball of the 2025 season, and what do they see? Heisman Trophies, making Auburn pay, and LSU’s chances for glory. In this interview, Vandy QB, Diego Pavia: 🟥 Details the 2024 Vandy vs. ‘Bama Buildup 🟥 Discusses playing for Coach Lea and with his bestie 🟥 Reveals his true height In this interview, SEC Expert, Paul Finebaum answers: 🟥 Why the SEC’s staying power is unrivaled? 🟥 Who’s almost a bigger star than Taylor Swift? 🟥 Which team will win the 2025 National Championship? 00:00 Intro 01:24 Vandy QB Diego Pavia Is a Star 01:37 Beating Bama 03:19 Choosing Vandy And Coach Lea 04:58 Give Me The Ball 06:20 Dude Put In The Work 07:38 Nick Saban Said What?? 08:20 Underdogs 10:22 Watch Out Auburn 12:33 Recruits: Come To Vandy! 13:29 Kay and Dani Talk SEC 15:54 Paul Finebaum’s SEC Picks 16:40 All About Arch Manning 17:23 SEC: The Only Game In Town 18:25 South Carolina Should Be In The Playoffs 19:40 Shane Beamer Bounce Back? 20:14 Arch Manning Is No Taylor Swift 21:42 The Weight of Being a Manning 22:31 Finebaum: “Best Player Since Tim Tebow” 23:20 LSU QB1 + Championship Or Bust 25:39 Post Saban Alabama 27:42 Is Vanderbilt Legit? 28:44 Can Mississippi State Survive? 29:49 The Vols “Will Struggle This Year” 31:44 SEC: Natty. Little Tenners: Nothing 33:09 Outro 34:28 Up Next - America’s Team: The Gambler And His Cowboys 🏈 Diego Pavia Instagram - https://bit.ly/45uLND4 TikTok - http://bit.ly/4fsLY5p X - https://bit.ly/4ldwx2j 🏈 Vanderbilt Instagram - http://bit.ly/4lfo8eu X - http://bit.ly/4mCiaWt YouTube - @vucommodores 🏈 Paul Finebaum Instagram - https://bit.ly/45kVtPv X - https://bit.ly/46JQFWc 🎙️ Kay Adams Instagram - http://bit.ly/3GYp4Go TikTok - http://bit.ly/4m7KmR9 X - http://bit.ly/45nI2Ou 🎙️ Dani Klupenger Instagram - https://bit.ly/3HeGGxx TikTok - https://bit.ly/4lQSBkl X - https://bit.ly/4lWpufr 🟥 Netflix Sports Instagram - http://bit.ly/45CPAhL TikTok - http://bit.ly/4mti6Ia X - http://bit.ly/4mseqGH Facebook - http://bit.ly/45o5xqK YouTube - @NetflixSports We want to hear from you! Leave us a voice message at www.speakpipe.com/NetflixSportsClub Be sure to watch, listen, and subscribe to the Netflix Sports Club Podcast on YouTube, Spotify, Tudum, and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted by Kay Adams, the Netflix Sports Club Podcast is an all-access deep dive into the Netflix Sports Universe. Join Kay as she speaks with athletes, coaches, and top sports correspondents to break down the latest Netflix Sports series. Expect bold opinions, insightful analysis, and candid conversations you won’t find anywhere else.…
The Coconut Thinking podcast brings educational provocateurs and practitioners in the regenerative space together to ask: what would it take to create the conditions for all life to thrive? Conversations are as diverse as the guests, but each one participates in the ecosystem, and each one questions the dominant narrative. This is a show for those who are curious about learning, systems, and contributing to the bio-collective—all life that has an interest in the healthfulness of the planet.
The Coconut Thinking podcast brings educational provocateurs and practitioners in the regenerative space together to ask: what would it take to create the conditions for all life to thrive? Conversations are as diverse as the guests, but each one participates in the ecosystem, and each one questions the dominant narrative. This is a show for those who are curious about learning, systems, and contributing to the bio-collective—all life that has an interest in the healthfulness of the planet.
How might we consider collapse as a a transformative process that brings us together through loss and renewal? In this episode, I speak with Maya Frost. Maya is a creative adaptation strategist, grief worker, and trauma‑informed facilitator who specializes in what she calls “creative adaptation": helping collapse‑aware individuals disrupt their despair and cultivate joy even as systems erode. As the founder of Collapse Forward and the Doom to Bloom™ process, she works with clients across more than 20 countries to transform “despairalysis” into grounded gratitude, rewilded imagination, and enlivened engagement. Maya's roots lie in alternative education and creativity‑based healing: she began by teaching mindfulness and creative play to thousands online. She’s also the author of The New Global Student , a playful guide to global education alternatives. In recent years, she has gained recognition for her “post‑doom optimism”—a refusal to flatten complexity into despair and instead engage collapse with creative resistance and realistic hope. We discuss: 🥥 How glossing over the truth around collapse risks giving a false sense of reality that eventually leads to greater despair; 🥥 The importance of having hard conversations, out in the open, so that we might respond, not in spite of, but thanks to the struggle; 🥥 How there is much we. can do right now to adapt, refusing paralysis even faced against tremendous odds. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How do you lead with courage and love for every child when the culture around you is demanding you do the opposite? Jennifer D. Klein is an educator, author, and global learning advocate with over 30 years in student-centered, project-based education. A product of the very pedagogies she champions, Jennifer has taught and led in diverse contexts—from all-girls education in the U.S. to heading an innovative school in Colombia. She has worked with educators in over 20 countries, helping them design equitable, inquiry-driven learning that amplifies student voice, embraces cultural inclusion, and transforms school culture. The author of The Global Education Guidebook , The Landscape Model of Learning , and the forthcoming Taming the Turbulence in Educational Leadership , Jennifer blends classroom experience, leadership insight, and a passion for equity to inspire meaningful change. She partners with schools to tackle equity, engage in brave conversations, and empower young people as agents of change in their communities and beyond. Based in Denver, she continues to connect educators worldwide through workshops, coaching, and keynote talks. We discuss: 🥥 Having a North Star and knowing what we are willing to to stand up for, in the face of risk; 🥥 How no one can give you the gift of liberation, we have to strive for it (Freire). This is true in leadership of all sorts; 🥥 Students as protagonists of their own stories and these of others. You can purchase Jennifer's book here: https://www.principledlearning.org/taming-the-turbulence-in-educational-leadership . Check out Coconut Thinking on www.coconut-thinking. com.…
How might our relationships other-than-human animals help us consider sustainability and regenerative education in more life-centered ways? In this episode, I speak with Charlotte Hankin. Charlotte is an educator, sustainability consultant, and PhD researcher in the Department of Education at the University of Bath. Her doctoral work explores how relationships between children and animals in international schools can help shift education away from human-exceptionalism toward more regenerative, relational ways of learning. Guided by posthumanist and feminist materialist theory, Charlotte uses arts-based, post-qualitative methods, including poetry, photography, sound, and craft, to attend to spontaneous, everyday encounters between human and other-than-human beings. These ‘multispecies moments’ offer insight into power, care, and co-existence, inviting schools to reimagine pedagogy as something co-created in the spaces between species. And, of course, Charlotte is the co-founder of Coconut Thinking. We discuss: 🥥 How schools often portray animals in ways that separate us from the natural world and contribute to extractive practices; 🥥 How school curricula might embrace an ethic of care, beyond what serves humans; 🥥 The importance of cultivating relationality in schools over content mastery. Check us out, www.coconut-thinking.com…
How can learning&doing help us become good participants in the web of life? In this special episode, I speak about how systems change won’t happen if we replace names and labels but continue to do the same old thing. I propose that we move beyond assessing learning, competencies, soft skills for their own sake. Rather, what if we collected the voices of the community (human and other-than-human) and had that be the measure of quality of learning? Emphasis placed on testimonials of how the learning and specifically the application of the learning contributed to a more positive world. And if we really want to go nuts, we can answer the question at the top of these show notes. This takes us beyond the individualization of student achievement because it becomes about how we use our learning for good. It de-centers the student and centers life. This episode is inspired by a post I put up a couple weeks ago, that you can find below. Please listen to this one-take, uncut episode, with a guest appearance by Clementine the cat. To access the post, click here .…
How might we participate as Earthlings, part of a living planet, in kinship with the more-than-human? Dan Burgess is a regenerative practitioner, creative strategist, and facilitator working at the intersection of ecology, culture, and transformation. With roots in the worlds of storytelling, activism, and systems innovation, Dan helps individuals and organizations reimagine their roles in a world undergoing profound change. He draws on years of experience in creative industries, participatory leadership, and place-based learning to design processes that foster deep connection, agency, and collective renewal. Dan is known for his work in cultivating regenerative mindsets and practices that align human activity with the rhythms and needs of the living world. He is the founder and host of Spaceship Earth , a podcast and platform for exploring how we might live with greater imagination and responsibility as crew members of a planet in crisis. At heart, Dan is a bridge-builder—linking the inner and outer, the personal and systemic, the practical and the poetic in service of a thriving future. We discuss: 🥥 The balance between trying to get more people on board with our transformative ideas and the need to put energy into how we are creating space in ourselves to create space; 🥥 How the culture of modernity is a passenger story, where few of us are benefiting from modernity, within humans and as humans; 🥥 How ideas are processes that move and drift through interactions with others and their ideas, a sort of confluence that is never isolated. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com Check out the Spaceship Earth podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-spaceship-earth-podcast/id1338946235…
What does it mean to nurture good relationships through regenerative education in these times we live in? In this episode, I speak with the authors of the soon-to-be-published book, The Art of Regenerative Educatorship . Bas is an associate professor in regenerative leadership at the Mission Zero Centre of Expertise at The Hague University of Applied Sciences, where he also serves on the management team of the Master’s in Sustainability Transitions. He lives in Dordrecht with his partner, writes novels, and is an avid gamer. Mieke is an associate professor in Regenerative Education and Development at the University of Amsterdam, where she works within the international development studies programme and the Governance and Inclusive Development research group. She lives in Amsterdam with her partner and twins and is a committed Reiki practitioner and yoga teacher, engaged with the Reiki Regenerative Resource Development Community in The Hague. Koen works as a regenerative educator at the University of Amsterdam. He teaches change-making within the Computational Social Sciences programme and supports interdisciplinary educators. He lives in Utrecht with his partner and dog, and draws deep inspiration from his intercultural connection with Turkey. We discuss: 🥥 How regeneration invites us to become grounded in the project, connected with love to all life, to be present with all life in place, to have the courage to keep working, no matter the outcomes. 🥥 How we are complicit in the system, but we can be constructive disruptors and have the will to remain in the system in spite of its damaging effects. 🥥 How the process of writing the book was emergent and invited the reader as part of the process, opening up spaces for contextualized meaning-making. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com…
We honor Nyepi with this special episode, in which Charlotte Hankin interviews Benjamin Freud. Nyepi is the Balinese Day of Silence, and is a Hindu New Year celebration marked by 24 hours of complete stillness. No travel, no lights, no work, and no noise. It is a time for self-reflection and spiritual renewal. We recorded this episode a few days after Nyepi and after that time of pause and gather. We discuss: 🥥 Regenerative education and how nothing goes beyond Nature’s paradigm (referencing Denise DeLuca); 🥥 How education is part of a larger system that replicates itself, meaning education won’t change without deeper systemic transformation; 🥥 How sometimes it’s either/or, both/and, and even or/either. Join us for this special episode and check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might we shift our educational practices to deepen students’ ecological awareness, nurturing a culture of care and reciprocity with Earth’s living systems? In this episode, I speak with Katharine Burke. Katharine has been an educator for over 30 years, passionately advocating for ecological literacy, permaculture, and regenerative education. She currently teaches Geography and Social Studies at the secondary level, focusing her work on transformative ecological education projects. Katharine’s master’s thesis, “Restorying our Connection to the Natural World,” led to practical school initiatives including gardening programs, composting and seed studies, survival excursions, immersive nature camps, and integrating systems thinking across literature, geography, economics, and social studies. She authored EARTHWARDS , a practical guide reflecting educators’ real-world experiences. Katharine also founded The Small Earth Institute to offer deep ecology and regenerative design training for teachers. We discuss: 🥥 How sometimes change starts with having the space to talk about what uncomfortable, challenging, or simply not spoken; 🥥 How building a value system requires building it with others, 🥥 How transformative education is about shifting perceptions, identities, and values, which, when coupled with ecological education, bring us to understand we participate in the web of life. Check us out, www.coconut-thinking.com…
Do we have what it takes to change our ways to ones that work with, rather than against, life? In this episode, I speak with Giles Hutchins. Giles is a leading voice in regenerative leadership and business transformation. With 30 years of experience—including roles as Head of Transformation at KPMG and Global Sustainability Director at Atos—he now focuses on guiding leaders and organizations toward more resilient, nature-inspired ways of working. He’s the author of books like The Illusion of Separation and Leading by Nature , and his new book is called Nature Works: Activating Regenerative Leadership Consciousness . Giles's work explores how businesses can move beyond outdated models to embrace a regenerative future. We discuss: 🥥 What it takes to lead in a world of complexity and change; 🥥 How the current mechanistic paradigm can at best help us cope with what is coming, what has already happened, and maybe not even help us cope for much longer; 🥥 How dynergy is a tension and conflict holds creative energy, which allows for emergence to come through; 🥥 Nature as natura naturans, the enabling process of becoming, not Nature as "out there." Check us out www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might we weave stories together as a response to ecological breakdown, using sound to connect to place? In this episode, I speak with Mike Edwards. Mike began his career researching climate change in the Southwest Pacific, where his work—cited by the IPCC—was among the first to explore ecocolonialism: how climate discourse is manipulated by the powerful to control those most affected. His research challenged dominant narratives, sparking debate among those reluctant to rethink the status quo. In 2015, he co-founded Sound Matters, pioneering work in sonic rewilding, regenerative soundscaping, and Integral Listening (IL). His book Soundscapes of Life is set for release in 2025. Beyond sound, Mike has been a Climate Change Advisor to The Elders Foundation, working with leaders like Kofi Annan and President Jimmy Carter ahead of COP21. He has lectured worldwide, led the Arts and Ecology programme at Dartington Arts, and founded InnerDigenous, a movement helping people reconnect with self and place for personal and planetary healing. We discuss: 🥥 How knowledge is co-created by place and when it travels, brings place with it; 🥥 How soundscapes are the stories of many, which force us to attend differently; 🥥 How we are not interconnected, because that might suggested we can become disconnected, rather, we are all entangled and vibrating, sometimes, if we are lucky, at the same frequencies. Check us out, www.coconut-thinking.com Check out www.sound-matters.com…
What happens when the way we see ourselves changes the way we see the world? In this episode, I speak with Steffi Bednarek. Steffi’s work explores the intersection of climate change, complexity thinking, and the human psyche. She is the Director of the Center for Climate Psychology. With over 25 years of experience in depth psychology, trauma-informed practice, complexity thinking, and climate psychology, she supports individuals and organisations in navigating the psychological impacts of the metacrisis while fostering resilience and healthy cultures. She is the author of Climate, Psychology, and Change , described as “a work of wisdom and radical ideas” by Satish Kumar and endorsed by Fritjof Capra, Bill McKibben, and Nora Bateson. We discuss: 🥥 How our identities might shift in different ways depending on how we draw the boundaries, which changes our resonance with/as the world; 🥥 How silencing others because they do not agree with us is not the solution to creating spaces for understanding; 🥥 Our (in-)capacities to manage the inundation of information that comes our way, and how we might better adapt so as to flourish at best and avoid trauma at minimum. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com And check out the Center for Climate Psychology: https://climate-psychology-change.squarespace.com/…
How might leadership open more emergent spaces in schools? This is the first in a series of episodes throughout the year where we invite educators and practitioners to explore how they might share their time, talents, and gifts to uplift others. As we delve into their stories, we ask our guests what contributions they envision making in the spirit of generosity and regeneration. This isn’t about the spotlight—it’s about the offering. In this episode, I speak with Leslie Medema, Head of Campus at Green School Bali. Leslie has held various roles at Green School, including head, curriculum developer, career counsellor, and, above all, educator. Her background spans work in NGOs and policymaking across industries. While she may be in the jungle, Leslie never forgets her roots in South Dakota. She brings a wealth of experience in starting innovative schools, aligning vision with lived experiences, and guiding organizations from unproductive chaos to emergent possibilities. We discuss: 🥥 How to grow an organization in the midst of (controlled chaos) in ways that build capacity and foster community; 🥥 The importance of knowing and articulating why we learn and teach something and how this makes our local or global world a better place; 🥥 How being comfortable with uncertainty is never going to be an easy ride—stories from Green School over the past 13 years Check us out www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might we learn (and teach) to navigate uncertainty when the system rewards final answers? Dave Cormier is an internationally renowned educational thinker specializing in the intersection of technology and pedagogy. He coined the term MOOC in 2008 and pioneered open and rhizomatic learning. His work on creativity and uncertainty in education is taught globally. In 2024, he published Learning in a Time of Abundance: The Community Is the Curriculum with Johns Hopkins University Press. Recently, Dave facilitated an international online conference for educators and will be a visiting academic at Deakin University for the CRADLE symposium on Generative AI and Work-Integrated Learning. As the Interim Director of Curriculum Development and Delivery, Open Learning at Thompson Rivers University, he advances digital learning strategies in the GenAI era, supporting student experiences with practical and strategic solutions. We discuss: 🥥 How a single adult engaging with a few students—when replicated locally and globally—might be the response we need to face the metacrisis. 🥥 How learners of all ages don’t need to have every tool at their disposal when confronting uncertainty, but rather need to know how to respond, what to do, and where to learn to navigate it effectively. 🥥 How the most important literacy of the 21st century is humility—the ability to say, “I don’t know, but let’s learn together.” Check us out at www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might sound reshape our understanding of and nurture new relationships with the living world? In this episode, I speak with Louise Romain. Louise works as an anthropologist, an imagination activist (with Moral Imaginations) and a podcast producer. She campaigns for multispecies justice and Indigenous rights through grassroots organising, relationship building and media production. With her show ‘Circle of Voices’, she produces short stories, spoken word and immersive sound journeys, crafted as invitations to dream deeper into possible and desirable futures while engaging with themes of socio-political and environmental justice. She is fascinated by the potential of acoustic ecology to weave listeners into the sacred web of life and to support ecosystem regeneration. Louise is part of the Communications Team of the Women’s Caucus of the Convention on Biological Diversity , a 2024 Fellow of The Bio-Leadership Project and an active member of Earth Decides . We discuss: 🥥 Multispecies justice as supporting all species to thrive alongside humans, appreciating that survival depends on water, the land, the air—a healthful planet; 🥥 How sound asks us to slow down and open ourselves to different relationships with the living world of which we are part, noticing what we aren't used to noticing when we rely primarily on our sight; 🥥 Inclusion of the more-than-human and how inclusion might require exclusion, and leaving a part of us behind in order to be included. Check us out www.coconut-thinking.com Find out more about Louise's work on her website https://tuneintotheworld.com/ and follow her on social media @lou_romain_ and @circleofvoices. Find her podcast here .…
What happens when we tune into sound to make sense of our world? How might noticing sounds and silences tell us more about place? In this episode, Charlotte and I speak with Melissa Pons. Melissa is a field recordist and award-winning sound designer based in Portugal. Throughout her years of practice, she has independently released field recording albums, music compositions upon commission and her work has been streamed and featured in several media, like the BBC, NPR, The Guardian and Bandcamp Daily. Her personal work orbits around the more-than-human world and our complex relationship with it, and wild animals are a big source of inspiration for thinking, listening, writing, making music and the landscapes she seeks. Currently she’s working as a curator and podcast producer at the streaming platform earth.fm and works seasonally with sound design for audio dramas at Hemlock Creek Productions. We discuss: 🥥 How sound forces us to slow down, to take time to notice, in ways that photos cannot, creating a different kind of embodied experience; 🥥 How sounds tell stories of what is there and what is no longer there, which provides data that we aren't used to noticing; 🥥 The relationship between people and place to sound, and the stories these tell. This is the first episode in our two-part series on sound. We hope that educators will consider sound over written text as means of learning, feeling, and expression. Check us out www.coconut-thinking.com.…
How might Biomimicry help us understand the context of a problem in order for us to respond locally, not with one-size-fits-all solutions? In this episode, I speak with Bronwen Main and Frank Burridge. Bronwen is a landscape architect and co-founder of Main Studio, where she focuses on sustainable, nature-inspired designs that transform urban spaces. Her work emphasizes ecological restoration, community well-being, and biodiversity, creating environments that encourage people’s communion with nature. Bronwen also contributes as a lecturer and mentor, sharing her expertise with emerging architects. Through her innovative projects and community engagement, she promotes environmentally responsible design practices that blend aesthetics with ecological integrity and sustainable urban living. Frank is an architect and co-founder of Main Studio, a creative practice that blends architecture, art, and landscape design with ecological and community-focused principles. As a Teaching Associate at Monash University and a registered architect with the Architects Registration Board of Victoria, Frank is known for his innovative, sustainable projects. His work includes high-profile projects like Zac Efron’s planned “Futurecave” in New South Wales, embodying his commitment to creating functional, environmentally harmonious spaces. Bronwen and Frank are the architects (along with Ibuku) who are designing Green School' Biomimicry for Regenerative Design Lab, a first of its kind space in a K-12 school, where learners of all ages come together to explore and apply biomimicry principles for regenerative design We discuss: 🥥 How biomimicry provides hope because we learn [from/as/with] Nature, which has already tested out infinite problems for over 3.8 billion years (at least!); 🥥 The design process behind Green School's Biomimicry for Regenerative Design Lab, in which students and educators participated, as did the Natural world and the contact of Bali, education, and the current state of the world; 🥥 How Biomimicry allows us to understand our place in Place, which is fundamental to opening up new possibilities for learning in schools and beyond. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com Learn more about Green School Bali: www.greenschool.org/bali…
How might biomimicry be an ethical approach to a thriving planet rather than just another way to make cool products for money? In this episode, I speak with Henry Dicks. Henry is an environmental philosopher and philosopher of technology. He holds a doctorate from the University of Oxford and lectures in environmental philosophy and ethics at University Jean Moulin Lyon 3 and Shanghai University and in the philosophy of biomimicry at the Institut Supérieur de Design de Saint-Malo. We discuss: 🥥 Nature as measure, not in the qualitative sense, but rather as an ethical compass that guides us to respond in ways to life 🥥 Biomimicry as a move away from anthropocentrism through the reconsiderations of our relationships as Nature. 🥥 Biomimicry as a model for AI and the possibilities expanding toward more-than-human intelligences in AI. This is the second of a 3-part series on Biomimicry, looking at the relational, ethical, and process of Biomimicry. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might we create participatory, community-based technologies inspired from Nature with the interests of life in mind? In this episode, I speak with Daniel Kinzer. Daniel is the founder of Pacific Blue Studios, a network of youth-powered exploration, design and innovation studios leveraging biomimicry, traditional ecological knowledge and conservation technologies and focused on co-creating thriving, regenerative communities across Hawai'i and around our blue planet. He is an educator, designer, adventurer and ocean lover, and has spent over a decade living and learning across more than 70 countries and all 7 continents, including an expedition to Antarctica as a Grosvenor Teacher Fellow with National Geographic. We discuss: 🥥 Being comfortable in the absence of language and tuning into how our human and other-than-human kin communicate; 🥥 Biomimicry and indigenous knowledge ask us to quiet our cleverness, having humility, and neither is for anybody to own, run away from, or have exclusive to anyone; 🥥 Eco-anxiety as “I don’t know who I am anymore,” as ego-anxiety. This is the first of a 3-part series on Biomimicry, looking at the relational, ethical, and process of Biomimicry. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might knowledge be co-created as a process of relationships between humans, other-than-humans, and the land? In this episode, I speak with Tyson Yunkaporta. Tyson is an Aboriginal scholar, founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, and author of Sand Talk and most recently Right Story, Wrong Story . His work focuses on applying Indigenous methods of inquiry to resolve complex issues and explore global crises. Tyson currently works at the Faculty of Arts and Education, Deakin University as Senior Lecturer Indigenous Knowledges. We discuss: 🥥 Transknowledging as interactions between human/human and human/other-than-human that are co-created by place and time; 🥥 The "gold rush on Indigenous knowledge" and how we might work with and through the tensions this creates to learn from each other; 🥥 Enlightenment 2.0: its shortcuts, (false) promises, and how the great re-branding. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might ethics world the futures our generation will leave behind? How might education respond within the climate context? In this episode, I speak with Peter Sutoris. Peter is an environmental anthropologist and assistant professor in climate and development at the University of Leeds’ Sustainability Research Institute. He is the author of the books “Visions of Development” and “Educating for the Anthropocene,” and coauthor of the forthcoming “Development Reimagined.” He is a researcher, writer and educator, and has spent over a decade working on issues of education, health and social development. We discuss: 🥥 How we might confront the underlying patterns of extraction rather than hope for technology to make tweaks in the existing system; 🥥 What happens to ethics if we care about what life was before I was born and what will happen after we die? 🥥 What needs to change in our thinking, in our stories, and what might the system accept and what might it resist. Check us out www.coconut-thinking. com…
How might cultivating local relationships with humans and the more-than-human contribute to overall planetary health? In this episode, I speak with Pim Martens. Pim has a PhD in applied mathematics and biological sciences. He is a professor of Planetary Health and dean of Maastricht University College Venlo. Pim has been a professor of Sustainable Development for 18 years and is currently the project leader and principal investigator of several projects related to planetary health, sustainability science and education, and human-animal-nature relationships. Pim Martens is a scientist and founder of AnimalWise, a “think and do tank” integrating scientific knowledge and animal advocacy to bring about sustainable change in our relationship with animals. Furthermore, he was the founding Director of the Maastricht University Graduate School of Sustainability Science (MUST) and initiated the M.Sc. program in Sustainability Science and Policy. We discuss: 🥥 The importance of developing empathy for non-human animals for a kinder world, including between humans; 🥥 How sustainability and regeneration begin with how we treat all living things; 🥥 How planetary health might reframe how we understand the networks of our interconnections. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How do we nurture radical human relationships through authentic stories of learning? In this episode, I speak with Virgel Hammonds. Virgel is a nationally recognized leader in education innovation. He became CEO of the Aurora Institute in 2024, bringing over two decades of experience in learner-centered education. Formerly Chief Learning Officer at KnowledgeWorks, Virgel has partnered with national policymakers and local communities to redesign learning systems. He has also served as superintendent in Maine and high school principal in California, where he implemented personalized, mastery-based learning models. Virgel is an active board member for several educational organizations, continuing his mission to transform education for all learners. The Aurora Institute is a pioneering organization focused on advancing competency-based education frameworks. It champions personalized, learner-centered approaches, ensuring students progress based on mastery rather than seat time. The institute collaborates with educators, policymakers, and communities to redesign learning systems, promoting equity and deeper learning for all students. We discuss: 🥥 Shifting from school systems to communities of learning, recognizing learning as a 24/7, anywhere journey; 🥥 Listening to voices from the entire community to bring in local values, while creating connections with wider networks. 🥥 Showing up with authenticity in order to deepen our relationships, with courage and vulnerability. Check us out www.coconut-thinking.com You can find the Aurora Institute on https://aurora-institute.org/…
How is place an emergent, relational experience, rather than a fixed location? In this special episode, Charlotte and Benjamin speak alongside the sounds of Paris to create a conversation that includes the city. We come to Europe every couple of years to visit family, and this year we will also drop my son off to university. We recorded this episode in raw form, so we can be immersed in experience. We discuss: 🥥 How place creates the conditions for agency to emerge; 🥥 How learning experiences might be designed with emergence in mind, that is, with enabling constraints that nurture inquiry and the unexpected, without giving way to "anything goes;" 🥥 Specific examples of learner projects that have contributed to life and led to deeper learning (and yes, outcomes). Come be part of this conversation that is alive with the city. When we listen to the stories around us, we appreciate that Nature is everywhere because we are Nature.…
How might we commit to change in order to create conditions for deeper learning and put students first? In this episode, I speak with Kyle Wagner. Kyle is an education consultant and founder of Transform Educational Consulting (TEC). He specializes in empowering schools to create socially, emotionally, and globally aware citizens through project-based learning. With over 20 years of experience, Kyle has worked with numerous schools worldwide, helping design more than 500 learning experiences. He previously served as the coordinator for Futures Academy at the International School of Beijing and as a project-based learning leader at High Tech High. Kyle is the author of "The Power of Simple," which provides strategies for school transformation. We discuss: 🥥 How changes in the physical environment can augment or constrain deeper learning; 🥥 How artifacts of learning are touch points in journeys of learning rather than ends in themselves; 🥥 How no matter where you are, or think you are, you can make a shift toward more student-centered learning. Check us out www.coconut-thinking.com And look Kyle up on https://transformschool.com/…
How might regenerative travel teach us about reciprocity, contributing to a different approach to education? In this episode I speak with David Leventhal and Ximena Rodrigues of Playa Viva. Playa Viva is a B-Corp certified brand that leverages hospitality to bring capital to work to improve ecosystems, for people and planet, to create vibrant, resilient, healthy and profitable systems for all participants. It takes a "slow money" committed investment and runs entirely off-grid. Playa Viva works extensively with its local community to support health and education. David Leventhal is its Founder. He is a regenerative (social and environmental) impact entrepreneur and investor. Regeneration principles have guided much of his work including the founding of Regenerative Travel and Regenerative Resorts to support similar independent hotel owners around the world. Ximena Rodriguez is the ReSiMar Regenerative Education Coordinator. Sher works closely with the local community to develop citizenship through education, working alongside guests at Playa Viva. We discuss: 🥥 How travel is an exchange of discovery between peoples coming from two different places; 🥥 How we are not the principle characters of the story, but rather participants here and in this moment; 🥥 How travel is not reward for working, it is education for living... which has a parallel to schools. Check us out www.coconut-thinking.com And look up Playa Viva: www.playaviva.com…
What if we decided to do things differently? I speak with Clover Hogan. Clover is a 24-year-old climate activist and the founding Executive Director of Force of Nature - the youth non-profit turning climate anxiety into action. She has worked alongside the world’s leading authorities on sustainability, consulted within the boardrooms of Fortune 50 companies, and counseled heads of state. Clover has spoken alongside Jane Goodall and Vandana Shiva, and interviewed the 14th Dalai Lama. Her TED talk, 'What to do when climate change feels unstoppable', has been viewed over 2 million times. At 22 she was recognized on the Forbes 30 Under 30 list, and has featured in countless media outlets. And she is a Green School Bali graduate! We discuss: 🥥 How the real problem isn't that youth is climate anxious, it's that people in power are not; 🥥 How Departments of Defense might consider defending our rivers, mountains, forests, and air—where preserving the peace becomes about climate; 🥥 How social justice and climate justice are the indissociable, and how transforming education has to take this into account. Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might our stories be as unique as the place from which they unfold? In this episode, I speak with Jenny Andersson. Jenny is the founder of The Really Regenerative Centre. She works as a strategist, facilitator and educator, supporting organizations and communities to create visions for the future they want – together – and to find the energy, will and approaches to sustain long-term change. She also leads the cohort Power of Place, which is collective learning journey in regenerative placemaking. The aim of the course is to provide a living systems and regenerative thinking approach to how we design our places so that they can become places in which humans can fulfill their potential and true roles and all life thrives in harmony – so that the places that are precious to us become Places For Life. We discuss: 🥥 How place provides an entry point into understanding the enormous complexities of systems and the dynamic relationships within them; 🥥 How understanding your bioregion is critical to education because it connects us to place, but also appreciates the uniqueness of every system and our place [within/as] it; 🥥 The nestedness of all things, or rather, the rhizomatic relationships that we have with all aspects of society and life. Check us out www. coconut-thinking.com…
How might we re-think higher education to be about our ability to discern the world and take action, not the diplomas we receive? I speak with Ronald Barnett. Ron has spent a lifetime in higher education as a scholar, institutional leader and manager, researcher, and writer. He is recognized as having introduced and developed the philosophy of higher education as a field in its own right (and he is the President of the recently established Philosophy and Theory of Higher Education Society, and co-editor of two major book series. Since 1990, he has been on the staff of the Education Faculty of University College London, where he is now an Emeritus Professor. Over the years, Ron has written and edited more than 35 books and over 150 papers has been cited in the literature over 25,000 times. There are about 3 million words of his in the public domain. He continues to act as a consultant to individual universities around the world on higher education matters, and also with his work in examining, reviewing, editing, and mentoring. We discuss: 🥥 Higher education as a process, not an institution; 🥥 The conspiracy that involves all stakeholders in grade inflation and the degradation of standards; 🥥 Ethics as the platform from which the critical thinker seeks to make the world a better place. Check us out on www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might we create the conditions and spaces for learning to be wild? Or maybe we need to un-create them for wildness? I speak to Jennifer D. Klein and Jill Ackers-Clayton. Jennifer has a broad background in global education and global partnership development, student-centered curricular strategies, diversity and inclusivity work, authentic assessment, and experiential, inquiry-driven learning. She has facilitated workshops in English and Spanish on four continents, providing strategies for high-quality, globally connected project-based learning in all cultural and socioeconomic contexts, with an emphasis on amplifying student voice and shifting school culture to support such practices. Jennifer has worked with organizations such as the Buck Institute for Education, the Center for Global Education at the Asia Society, The Institute for International Education, Fulbright Japan, What School Could Be, the Centre for Global Education, TakingITGlobal, and the World Leadership School, to name a few. Jennifer’s first book, The Global Education Guidebook: Humanizing K–12 Classrooms Worldwide Through Equitable Partnerships, was published in 2017, and her second book, The Landscape Model of Learning: Designing Student-Centered Experiences for Cognitive and Cultural Inclusion, was released in 2022. Jill is an influential educator with nearly three decades of experience across a broad spectrum of the educational sector. Her journey began as a mathematics teacher, evolving into a technology expert after achieving her CCNA & MCSE certifications in Denver, Colorado. Her skills in managing school networks and teaching K-8 technology led her to significant roles in educational leadership. Her publication, "Developing Natural Curiosity through Project-Based Learning: Five Strategies for the PreK-3 Classroom," highlights her dedication to innovative education. As the Director of Education at VS America, her current role focuses on transforming learning environments, a crucial aspect of impacting student lives daily. This role involves collaborating with architectural firms, interior designers, and furniture vendors globally to create adaptable, flexible, and dynamic learning spaces. We discuss: 🥥 How learning experiences might be gatherings rather than collaborative efforts, to allow for possibilities and emergence; 🥥 How we might consider physical and non-physical spaces in different ways to promote learning, not simply to hold learning and learners; 🥥 How place-based learning flourishes when communities gather to solve problems. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might we come together around a WHY rather than a HOW? Might the HOW sort itself out if we share purpose? In this episode, I speak with Kevin Bartlett. Kevin is the Founder of the Common Ground Collaborative. He has held leadership positions in the UK, Tanzania, Namibia, Austria, and Belgium, where he was most recently Director of the International School of Brussels from 2001-2015. Kevin has co-designed accreditation systems for the European Council of International Schools (ECIS), the Council of International Schools (CIS) and the New England Association of Schools and Colleges (NEASC) and is currently engaged with a small team developing ACE, an innovative new accreditation protocol for NEASC. He is a writer and trainer in the field of curriculum design and leadership for learning for the Principals’ Training Center. As a curriculum designer, he was the initiator and early leader of the IB Primary Years Programme. We discuss: 🥥 How we might challenge schools to describe what they're doing as a process, in order to avoid getting stuck in outcomes; 🥥 How conceptual transfer opens up spaces for learning and action, how goes beyond the the here and now to make a difference in now and then. 🥥 How feeling inspires action, not academics; feeling is what connects us, not cognitive understanding (though that can nourish feeling). Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might AI create both utopian and dystopian futures all at the same time? What does this mean for education and for learning? In this episode, I speak with Darren Coxon. Darren is Founder of CoxonAI, a worldwide strategic advisory specialising in K-12 AI implementation. An educator for 25 years, Darren has most recently managed the operation of schools’ groups, notably Brighton College’s international schools, Forfar Education, and Britus Education, Bahrain, where he was COO. Darren has been at the forefront of educational technology for many years, including leading the first 6th form college in the UK to move to an iPad 1:1 model. He is now a major thought leader on AI in education, has delivered training for COBIS and the National College, as well as more recently delivering keynotes and workshops for HMC, GESS Dubai, and the Cottesmore AI Festival. We discuss: 🥥 How generative AI is only the beginning, yet there is nothing new in how we use technology to enhance ourselves, our learning, and our abilities; 🥥 The connections between AI and our response to ecological breakdown... maybe this is also an opportunity to connect non-virtually; 🥥 How we might prepare learners, no matter their age, to be useful, not in an extractive way, but rather one that helps all life thrive, and this is the re-purposing of schools. Check us out: www.coconut-thinking.com.…
How might we free ourselves from the bondage of data to tell different stories of learning? In this episode, I speak with David Penberg, Ph.D. David is an urban and international educator, teacher and writer with 40 years of experience. His work is place-based and intergenerational. He supports communities seeking to become more vital, joyous and integrated places of learning. He has held leadership and teaching roles in non-profits, community-based organizations, independent, international and charter schools, and in higher education. His love for learning and interest in people are rooted in a belief in agency and democratic practices. We discuss: 🥥 How intentionality can lead to greater well-being and deeper learning; 🥥 How to amplify stories of care, ones that connect and inspire us; 🥥 How schools can find their place within the community, as places of learning for all generations. Check us out www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might learning be flow between structure and emergence? How might we measure impact quantitatively and qualitatively? In this episode, I speak with Michael Bunce. Michael is an educator, researcher, and interdisciplinary sound artist, with wide-ranging international experience across education and the arts. As an educational researcher, he specialises in interdisciplinary learning design and innovation, working in leadership, teaching, research, and consultancy roles in schools, arts and community organisations, regulatory and advisory bodies, and universities. You'll want to check out http://www.learningmap.education/ for the visuals. This isn't a light conversation, yet Michael's work provides valuable insights into pedagogy and the cyclical and dynamic nature of learning, going from structured, to semi-structured, to emergent, to embedded forms of learning. Michael challenges us to reconsider how we might conceptualize learning. We discuss: 🥥 Emergent learning as an unpredictable process that arises when learners have agency and are the source of knowledge creation; 🥥 How content, capacity, and context find different value depending on the learning experience we have and need; 🥥 How we can tell different narratives of learning that include stories of impact. Check us out on www.coconut-thinking.com…
What might flourishing look like as collective and individual experiences entangled in environment? Eri Mountbatten-O'Malley is a Senior lecturer in education policy at Bath Spa University and is also a Fellow of the Higher Education Academy. His research is philosophical in nature and helps us to better understand social problems and social research. Eri’s central pedagogical interest is in nurturing critical thinking and complex concept development in students. Eri’s research interests are at the cross-roads between epistemology and ethics. In particular, he is interested in using philosophical skills to better understand social problems. His interests in concepts such as ‘well-being’ and ‘happiness’ led him to focus his PhD research on a conceptual analysis of ‘human flourishing. He has had the opportunity to share his research and read papers at numerous international conferences on the problems of reductionist accounts of normative concepts such as ‘wonder’ and ‘human flourishing’, and will be reading further papers over the coming year on related topics. We discuss: 🥥 How flourishing happens where the inner and outer worlds inter/intra-act; 🥥 How empiricism requires conceptual understanding that cannot easily be measured; 🥥 The dynamic nature of language as encounter. Check us out on www. coconut-thinking. com…
How might we tell new stories open up our imagination to what is possible? In this episode, I speak with Cindy Forde . Cindy’s career has been dedicated to transforming how we understand and act as human beings towards Earth. She works globally with leaders across sectors in education, communication and sustainability including University of Cambridge and the UN, and believes the biggest impact we can have in making change is how we, as a global community, shape the mind-set of our children. In 2022, her children’s book “Bright New World” came out. Cindy is the founder of Planetari, an organization that sets out a new vision for education, to enable all children to understand our planet as a living system and to have the capacity for creativity and innovation to be able to live successfully here. Prior to Planetari, Cindy led the Cambridge Science Centre as CEO and the Blue Marine Foundation as Managing Director. We discuss: 🥥 The importance of storytelling for us to imagine and then create possibilities for new a new worlds; 🥥 How healing ourselves (including the planet) begins by listening to one another with open hearts and minds; 🥥 How ecological breakdown finds its roots in colonialism and our spirit of extraction. Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com. You'll find our articles and resources.…
How might we transform our relationality with the world, as the world, especially the non-human world? In this episode, I speak with Rūta Žemčugovaitė. Rūta is a writer, artist, and researcher, working with mycelium for regenerative futures. With a background in Psychology, she learned to facilitate trauma healing and shadow work in Costa Rica and now works with technology, mycology (and trying to build things out of mycelium), affective computing, spatial sound design, creating art, regenerative practices, and writing. Rūtais a philosopher, flirts with post-humanism, and asks how we can design with the living world in mind. We discuss: 🥥 How humans are embedded in the ecosystems around it, meaning that if we increase the thriving of the non-human, we increase the thriving of the human; 🥥 How de-centering the human opens up spaces to changing our relationality [with/as] the living world, toward more regenerative approaches to life. 🥥 How we can re-draw the boundaries of our identities and idon'thave to stick to "human." Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com Check out Rūta's consultancy: https://www.sympoiesis.world/…
What might happen when the landscape is our place of learning? In this episode, I speak with Luis Alberto Camargo. Luis was named the 2023 Richard Louv Prize recipient, in recognition of his life’s work, which has impacted 130,000 children and youth across Colombia. Luis is Founder and Executive Director of Organización para la Educación y Protección Ambiental (OpEPA - Colombia & USA), Co-Founder of The Weaving Lab, Core member of Regenerative Communities Network and Founder of Colombia Regenerativa, and Director at Thundra Outdoors. Global Change Leader, Young Global Leader (2008), Ashoka Fellow. Prior, he held a number of roles, including Adviser to the Vice-Minister of Environment of Colombia, Adviser to the Department of National Planning, Researcher at Universidad de los Andes and WWF, Wilderness Medicine Instructor at the Wilderness Medicine Institute of the National Outdoor Leadership School (NOLS) as well as wilderness educator in the US. We discuss: 🥥 Listening to the silence as means of connecting and convening; 🥥 Ways in which schools in urban settings can re-connect with/as Nature within their context; 🥥 How if we want to live as Nature, we must learn as Nature. Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com.…
What might it be like if we approached education and business as if we belonged to the living world? In this conversation, I speak with Gil Friend. Gil, a systems ecologist and business strategist, is widely considered a founder of the sustainable business movement. He is noted for inspiring, challenging, and supporting business, policy, and investment leaders to rethink business in light of the challenges posed by climate change and sustainability. Joel Makower describes him as "one of the most thoughtful and creative thinkers I know in the area of sustainable business, adeptly bridging the scientific and technical aspects of sustainability with the practical realities of the business world and its impact on people and the systems in which they operate." Gil is the founder and CEO of Natural Logic Inc., a strategy boutique advising the world's leading companies on building "massive value" through business-integrated sustainability strategies. He is an inaugural member of the Sustainability Hall of Fame and was named "one of the 10 most influential sustainability voices in America" by The Guardian. He is also recognized as one of the Bay Area's "top 25 movers and shakers" in CleanTech. Our discussion includes: 🥥 How can we reconsider capitalism to be reciprocal, not extractive; caring, not alienating; regenerating, not just generating for the few? 🥥 What would happen if we went to school to learn in order to contribute to all life, rather than simply attending prestigious institutions like Oxbridge? 🥥 Approaching capital (of all kinds, not just financial) in ways that meet the needs of all life, re-evaluating even what those needs are systemically rather than individually. Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might the stories we tell about the future help us bring about the futures we want? In this episode, I speak with Will Richardson. Will was a guest on the podcast a couple of years ago, and it's fascinating to notice how he his thinking has both shifted and stayed strong. A former public school educator of 22 years, Will has spent the last 18 years developing an international reputation as a leading thinker and writer about the intersection of social online learning networks, education, and systemic change. Most recently, Will is a co-founder of The Big Questions Institute which was created to help educators use "fearless inquiry" to make sense of this complex moment and an uncertain future. We discuss: 🥥 Moving from a culture of teaching to a culture of learning; 🥥 Telling oral futures, stories of how we imagine we will be in a decade or two and working together toward those stories; 🥥 How more and more of us realize we are at a tipping point, opening hope for change toward more education for sustainability (and perhaps regeneration) Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How can capital contribute to the (non-monetary) wealth of the entire ecosystem? In this episode, I speak with Cordell Jacks. Cordell is the Co-founder and CEO of Regenerative Capital Group , a Canadian-based fund and accelerator that trains entrepreneurs in an 'alternative' entrepreneurial career path through ETA (entrepreneurship through acquisition). Instead of launching start-ups as platforms for change and innovation, RCG champions aspiring leaders to acquire small businesses that have already proven market validation and traction, and that are seeking ownership transition from retiring baby boomers (most of whom are without succession plans). RCG acquires these businesses for the entrepreneur (no investment capital required from entrepreneur), where they can earn meaningful equity in the business if they take it on a 'regenerative journey'- looking at all material areas of impact the business has, which can be utilized as levers for net-positive value creation for all stakeholders (human, social, and environmental) across their ecosystems. We discuss: 🥥 How mono-capitalism can be a source of degeneration, much like mono-agriculture can be, but eco-capitalism might open up different possibilities 🥥 How capital might become regenerative when it is nourishes every part of the ecosystem, human, other-than-human, and more than human 🥥 Approaching every moment as an opportunity to contribute to the ecosystem, to bring about the world we want. Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How might we approach life from Nature's paradigm rather than from the dominant paradigm? In this episode, I speak with Denise DeLuca. Denise is the founder of Wild Hazel. She is an adjunct faculty and the former Director of MCAD’s Sustainable Design program. She was co-founder of BCI : Biomimicry Creative for Innovation, a network of creative professional change agents driving ecological thinking for radical transformation. Denise is the author of the book Re-Aligning with Nature : Ecological Thinking for Radical Transformation. She also teaches with the Amani Institute. Denise’s previous roles include Education Director for the International Living Future Institute , Project Manager for Swedish Biomimetics 3000 , and Outreach Director for The Biomimicry Institute . Denise is a licensed civil engineer (PE) and holds a master’s degree in civil and environmental engineering with a focus on modelling landscape-scale surface and groundwater interactions. In addition, Denise is a Biomimicry Fellow and a member of the Advisory Council of The Biomimicry Institute , Board Member of the International Society of Sustainability Professionals ( ISSP ), on the editorial board of the Journal of Bionic Engineering , and an Expert with Katerva . We discuss: 🥥 Emergent abundance as means of cultivating ego-less, curious, and thriving relationships, thinking, and feeling; 🥥 How we can learn as Nature, not always from or about Nature, which is a shift in how we respond to the world (away from problem-solution mindsets) 🥥 How imagining and describing the world we want to create opens up new possibilities for non-linear thinking and ways of becoming. Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com Check out Wild Hazel: www.wildhazel.net…
In this episode, I speak with Stefan Bauschard. Stefan is the Co-founder of educating4ai.com; the Owner of DebateUS.org, the Executive Co-Director of the New York City Urban Debate League and the Debate Coach @ Lakeland Schools. He is also the author of several substance articles that have received a tremendous amount of attention in the way they challenge us to re-think assessment, re-think our ways or learning, and re-think our relationships with evidencing what we can do... all due to AI. We discuss: 🥥 How AI will be able to teach learners certain things better than any human ever could; 🥥 How AI will end the primacy of single artifact assessments, in favor of more creative, individualized ways to demonstrate understanding; 🥥 The notion that educators in the future will be those who care about and enjoy spending time with kids. Check our our website: www.coconut-thinking.com You can find Stefan's substance articles here: https://stefanbauschard.substack.com/…
How might curriculum emerge from specific time and place? In this episode, I speak with Russell John Cailey. Russell is the Managing Director and visionary behind THINK Learning Studio (TLS), which is associated with Think Global School, one of the first traveling high schools. He aims to revolutionize the education industry. Honoured as a Top 100 Global Visionary in Education by GFEL in 2021, Russell is dedicated to positioning TLS as a beacon of innovation and inspiration for educators worldwide, challenging traditional norms. Russell is the Co-founder of the Hakuba Forum, ForesightLab.org and EduVue.ai. We discuss: 🥥 The importance of listening to local contexts and not coming in with a pre-made, out of the box solution in education, particularly when it comes to PBL; 🥥 The risks and opportunities that come with challenging traditional education; 🥥 How collective endeavors might be the next horizon for AI, beyond individual productivity. Check out the Coconut Thinking website: www.coconut-thinking.com…
How do we find the courage to move beyond the single story? In this episode, I speak with Sahana Chattopadhyay. Sahana is a Writer, Speaker, Synthesizer, and Transition Catalyst. Through her work, she researches and explores different pathways to civilizational transition towards life-sustaining and decolonial future(s), and counter-hegemonic narratives. She is the Founder and Director of a boutique consulting firm Proteeti, a Sanskrit word meaning "wisdom that transforms." She is also a certified Coach, Facilitator, Learning Designer, and an Organization Development Professional with a focus on Transformational Learning and the Future of Leadership. Sahana is also the author of a series of thought-shifting articles about Wayfinders, which you can find here: https://medium.com/age-of-emergence . We discuss: 🥥 How wayfinders are the holding space for organizations that have the courage to listen to voices from the margins and the center, including voices from the more-than-human world, moving so that the centers shift constantly so there is no center; 🥥 How we want to go beyond "human-centered" (anthropocentric), which has led us to where we are today and will not get us out; 🥥 The problem-solution trap, which is also the "God-trick," and inevitably creates more problems; 🥥 Resistance as more than political struggle, as a form of defense and opening up to better futures. Check out the Coconut Thinking website: www.coconut-thinking.com…
In this episode, I speak with Fabienne Vailes. Fabienne is the host of the Flourishing Education podcast. She is the author of two books: The Flourishing Student in its 2nd edition (aimed at tutors) and another one co-authored Dr. Dominique Thompson called How to Grow a Grown up (aimed at parents). As an educational expert with over 20 years’ experience in the sector, Fabienne is on a mission to change the face of education—embedding well-being into the curriculum to create an environment where both students and staff flourish and develop the mental agility and resilience to succeed both academically and in the workplace. We discuss: 🥥 How maybe we can measure community well-being (qualitatively); 🥥 The need to avoid getting stuck with words like "regeneration," which are not silver bullets and represent concepts that go beyond the words; 🥥 How change comes one imperfect perfect conversation at a time. Check out our website: www.coconut-thinking.com Check out the Flourishing Education podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flourishing-education-how-to-become-a-humble/id1519086201?i=1000617730193…
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