LawNext is a weekly podcast hosted by Bob Ambrogi, who is internationally known for his writing and speaking on legal technology and innovation. Each week, Bob interviews the innovators and entrepreneurs who are driving what’s next in the legal industry. From legal technology startups to new law firm business models to enhancing access to justice, Bob and his guests explore the future of law and legal practice.
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The legal ecosystem is transforming but to what, for whom, where, why and how? Join us to learn about the next best practices and how legaltech is impacting your legal business. Learn from the people who are “walking the talk.” Hear what they are doing and what has driven them to do things differently for their clients, their people, their organisations and themselves and, how they measure and learn from success and failure. We’re going to get candid, super practical and yes, we’re going to ...
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Welcome to Reimagining Justice - a global podcast for the change makers in law and the first Australian-based podcast shining a light on issues at the intersection of law, social justice and innovation. Join Andrea Perry-Petersen, an Australian lawyer and social justice advocate, as she interviews guests from around the world who have discovered and implemented innovative ways to update the legal profession while improving people’s experience of the law. Andrea brings a unique perspective on ...
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Ep 264: Live from #ClioCon: A Deep Dive into the 2024 Clio Legal Trends Report, with Joshua Lenon, Clio’s Lawyer in Residence
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At the recent Clio Cloud Conference in Austin, Texas, Clio released its ninth annual Legal Trends Report, a report that uses both survey responses and anonymized data from Clio users to paint a picture of key trends in law practice and legal technology. This year’s report has some intriguing findings on lawyers’ adoption of AI and the types of task…
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Ep 263: Live from #ClioCon: A Clio Power Trio: COO Ronnie Gurion, CFO Curt Sigfstead, and Board Member Mark Britton
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This has been a significant year for the law practice management company Clio, which in July raised a record-setting $900 million financing round – the largest ever for a legal tech company, and which recently wrapped up its 12th annual Clio Cloud Conference, its largest ever with some 2,600 attendees in person in Austin, Texas, and almost as many …
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Ep 262: Live from #ClioCon: Clio CEO Jack Newton on Generative AI and the New Duo AI Legal Assistant
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We’ve just returned from the Clio Cloud Conference, held this year in Austin, Texas, where, in what has become an annual tradition, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi sat down with Clio founder and CEO Jack Newton for a live interview. At the conference, Clio launched Clio Duo, the generative AI legal assistant integrated into Clio’s flagship product, Clio M…
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Ep 261: A Year Into His Tenure at UnitedLex, CEO James Schellhase on How the Company Is Embracing Innovation
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One year ago, in September 2023, James Schellhase was named chief executive officer of the alternative legal services provider UnitedLex. The move was particularly significant, as he was only the second person ever to hold that title at the company, having succeeded Dan Reed, who cofounded UnitedLex in 2006 and had been its CEO ever since. Reed is …
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Ep 260: A Deep Dive Into Filevine’s New Gen AI Tools for Litigators
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At its recent customer conference in Salt Lake City, called LEX Summit, the case management company Filevine unveiled a number of product releases and updates. Among them were several products for litigators driven by generative AI, including a first-of-its-kind tool, Depo CoPilot, that helps guide a lawyer during a deposition, and another, Demands…
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Ep 259: Live from Filevine’s LEX Summit: Interviews with Three of Its Leaders
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In today’s episode, we feature three impromptu conversations with leaders of the case management company Filevine. Last week, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi was in Salt Lake City to attend LEX Summit, the Filevine customer conference. While there, he snagged three of the company’s top executives for brief, impromptu conversations about the company, its p…
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Ep 258: How One Legal Tech Startup Is Simplifying Data Collection from Mobile Devices
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Matt Rasmussen had worked for some 20 years in litigation technology and support at major law firms, Fortune 500 companies, and litigation services providers, when he wondered why mobile collections had to be so time-consuming, inefficient and invasively overbroad. As he looked into it, he realized there was a better way to manage mobile collection…
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Ep 257: The State of Knowledge Management and Innovation in Legal, with Patrick DiDomenico and Joshua Fireman
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On Oct. 17 and 18, 2024, two of the legal industry’s leading experts on knowledge management and innovation, Patrick DiDomenico, founder and CEO of InspireKM Consulting, and Joshua Fireman, president of Fireman & Company, which is owned by Epiq, the global provider of technology-enabled legal services, will present the second-annual KM&I for Legal …
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Ep 256: All About Spellbook’s New AI Agent, Capable of Performing Complex Legal Tasks, with CEO Scott Stevenson
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In what it says is the first AI agent for law, the legal technology company Spellbook just released Spellbook Associate, an application that can plan and execute complex, multi-step workflows in transactional matters, much as an associate would. This is the same company that introduced the first generative AI copilot for contract drafting and revie…
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Ep 255: Is Gen AI the New Paradigm for Technology Assisted Review in E-Discovery? Three Redgrave Scientists Discuss
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For at least two decades, artificial intelligence has been used in e-discovery to help surface and prioritize review of potentially responsive documents from large document collections. But while technology-assisted review (TAR) has traditionally been driven by AI in the form of supervised machine learning, some vendors and e-discovery professional…
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Ep 254: In the Wake of KKR’s Acquisition of CLM Company Agiloft, CEO Eric Laughlin Discusses Its Past and Future
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Last month, KKR, a major global investment firm, announced that it had entered into an agreement to acquire a majority stake in Agiloft, the contract lifecycle management company. As part of the deal, the growth equity firm FTV Capital, already an Agiloft investor, is making an additional investment, and another growth equity firm, JMI Equity, is j…
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Ep 253: Exclusive: CEO Jack Newton on Clio’s Record-Setting $900M Raise
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As the law practice management company Clio today announced a record $900 million funding round, the largest ever for a cloud legal technology company, at a whopping $3 billion valuation, Clio’s founder and CEO Jack Newton joins LawNext for an exclusive podcast interview. In a conversation recorded last week, ahead of today’s announcement, Newton a…
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Episode 201: Legal GenAI Around the World: Africa + Middle East
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This podcast was recorded on 22 July 2024 as the fifth session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from Africa and the Middle East: Peter Hall, Chief Operating Officer, Cognia Law Leah Molatseli, …
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Episode 200: Future 50 Series – Innovator in Residence – A leap forward in legal AI from the Ontario Bar Association!
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In this session, we spoke with Colin Lachance, the Innovator in Residence at the Ontario Bar Association (OBA) and the Principal of law firm coaching and consulting business, PGYA Consulting. Colin has spent most of his career in the legal industry. He’s worked in publishing, consulting, and legaltech development just to name a few. In all that he …
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Ep 252: How Clearbrief Helps Lawyers Find the Best Facts to Support their Writing, with Founder Jacqueline Schafer
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Jacqueline Schafer, the founder and CEO of Clearbrief, was inspired to start the company based on her own experiences as a litigator and appellate advocate. A pivotal moment for her came in an asylum case she was handling pro bono, when her ability to point the judge to critical evidence that supported her arguments saved her client from deportatio…
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Episode 199: Legal GenAI Around the World: Europe + UK
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This podcast was recorded on 18 June 2024 as the fourth session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with four amazing panellists from Europe and the UK: Giulio Coraggio, Partner – Location Head of Italian Intellectual Property…
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This podcast was recorded on 29 May 2024 as the third session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from the USA: Wendy Butler Curtis, Chief Innovation Officer and Chair eDiscovery & Information Gov…
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Ep 251: Cofounder Jason Tashea on the First Year and Uncertain Future of Georgetown’s First-of-Its-Kind Judicial Innovation Fellowship
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Eighteen months ago, the first-of-its-kind Judicial Innovation Fellowship launched with the mission of embedding experienced technologists and designers within state, local, and tribal courts to develop technology-based solutions to improve the public’s access to justice. Housed within the Institute for Technology Law & Policy at Georgetown Univers…
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Ep 250: CEO Ross Guberman On How BriefCatch Is Expanding Its Mission to Help Legal Professionals Improve their Writing
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This has been a notable year for BriefCatch, a legal technology company devoted to helping legal professionals improve their legal writing. It started nine months ago, with the company’s raise of a $3.5 million seed round, continued with its roll outs of new products and features, and then to its formation of a legal writing advisory panel of judge…
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Ep 249: How The Free Law Project Works to Expand Access to Legal Information, with Cofounder Michael Lissner
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Since 2010, the nonprofit Free Law Project has been working to make the legal ecosystem more equitable and competitive using technology, data and advocacy. It may be best known for CourtListener, its flagship project that houses an immense collection of court orders and opinions, and for its RECAP suite, which is the largest free collection on the …
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Ep 248: Epiq’s Global Legal Solutions Leader Roger Pilc on How AI Is Transforming Legal Services
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In recent months, Epiq, a global company providing technology-enabled legal services, has announced new artificial intelligence and analytics features built using the AI capabilities of Amazon Web Services. These new features include a framework for building, training and deploying bespoke machine learning models as secure APIs for customers; integ…
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Ep 247: Aderant CEO Chris Cartrett on the Company’s Cloud-First Strategy and New Cloud Platform
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As this episode is released, Aderant, a technology company that provides business and practice management software for mid- to large-sized law firms worldwide, is in the midst of its Global Momentum user conference, taking place in Nashville. At the conference, the company made a major news announcement – the launch of Stridyn, a new cloud platform…
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Ep 246: How The Contract Network Is ‘Changing Contracts for Good,’ with Founder and CEO Jim Wagner
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Almost exactly one year ago, a new legal tech startup, The Contract Network, came out of stealth, with a mission to “radically accelerate the time for contract negotiations'' through an AI-powered contract collaboration platform where all parties to a deal engage in a secure and neutral environment. The company’s cofounder and CEO, Jim Wagner, is a…
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Ep 245: All About KL3M, The First LLM Built From Scratch for Legal, with 273 Ventures’ Jillian Bommarito
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With so much focus on the use of large language models in law practice, the Kelvin Large Language Model – or KL3M (pronounced CLEM) for short – stands out as distinct for two reasons. For one, it is the first LLM built entirely from scratch specifically for the legal market. In addition, it is the first LLM in any domain to be training entirely on …
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This podcast was recorded on 15 April 2024 as the second session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from India, Hong Kong and Singapore: Komal Gupta, Chief Innovation Officer, Cyril Amarchand Man…
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Ep 244: How Maptician Is Helping Law Firms Optimize Hybrid Office Space, with CEO Alaa Pasha
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Timing is everything, it is said, and so it was either ironic or fateful that Maptician, developed as a hoteling platform to help law firms and businesses manage office space, launched in 2019, just before the pandemic and period in which offices once bustling with people turned into downtown ghost towns. But the company quickly adapted, says its C…
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Ep 243: How iManage Is ‘Making Knowledge Work’ for Legal Professionals, with CEO Neil Araujo
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With the tagline “Making Knowledge Work,” the document management company iManage is enormously successful within the legal industry, with more than 4,000 customers across six continents, including 80% of the Am Law 100 and more than 40% of Fortune 100 companies. Just last year, it recently reported, it added more than 300 new law firms and compani…
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Ep 242: The Inside Story of the Caselaw Access Project, with Three of the People Who Made It Happen
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March 1 marked the culmination of an ambitious and audacious project to digitize and provide free and open access to all official court decisions ever published in the United States. Called the Caselaw Access Project, it came about, starting in 2015, through an unusual partnership between Harvard Law School and a Silicon Valley-based legal research…
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Ep 241: InfoTrack’s Mission to Revolutionize Litigation Services Such as E-filing and Process Serving, with CEO Ed Watts
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InfoTrack may be one of the fastest growing yet least known legal technology companies in the United States. You may know it more through its brands, including ServeNow for finding process servers, One Legal for California court filing, LawToolBox for court calendaring, and the Legal Talk Network group of legal podcasts. Our guest today, Ed Watts, …
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Episode 196: Legal GenAI Around the World: Australia + New Zealand
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This podcast was recorded on 12 March 2024 as the inaugural session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from Australia + New Zealand: Matt Farrington, Senior Legal Counsel, Vice Chancellor’s Offic…
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Ep 240: The New Beneficial Ownership Reporting Requirement and How Legal Tech Can Help Companies Comply
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The arrival of 2024 brought a new reporting requirement for more than 32 million smaller companies in the United States. The new requirement, which came about as part of the federal Corporate Transparency Act of 2021, means that many companies will now have to report information about their beneficial owners — the individuals who ultimately control…
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Ep 239: Oddr CEO Milan Bobde On How AI Can Help Law Firms Stem Revenue Leakage and Turn Invoices into Cash
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Can AI help law firms stem revenue leakage and more efficiently turn their invoices into collected cash? That is the premise behind Oddr, a legal tech startup that recently launched what it says is the legal industry’s first AI-powered invoice to cash platform, centralizing law firm billing, collections, payments and reconciliation in a single prod…
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Ep 238: Thomson Reuters’ AI Strategy for Legal, with Mike Dahn, Head of Westlaw, and Joel Hron, Head of AI
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On this episode of LawNext: A conversation about Thomson Reuters’ strategy around generative artificial intelligence with two of the executives most directly responsible for its development and implementation. In a year dominated by discussion of generative AI and its potential impact on the legal profession, Thomson Reuters has played a leading ro…
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Ep 237: How A New Kind of Justice Worker Could Narrow the Justice Gap, with Nikole Nelson, CEO of Frontline Justice
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In November, the organization Frontline Justice launched with the mission of addressing the escalating access to justice crisis by empowering a new category of legal helper, the justice worker. The organization has an ambitious mission: To clear the way for justice workers to exist in all 50 states by 2035. In pursuit of that mission, it is backed …
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Ep 236: How One Legal Aid Program Is Creating A Culture Of Innovation To Enhance Access to Justice
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At a time when some 92% of the civil legal problems of low-income Americans receive no or inadequate legal help, innovative measures are needed to close the justice gap. Recognizing that, Legal Aid of North Carolina, a program that provides free legal services to low-income people through the state, last year became the first legal services program…
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Ep 235: How the American Arbitration Association embraced Generative AI, with CEO Bridget McCormack and CIO Diana Didia
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One year ago, Bridget Mary McCormack, the former chief justice of the Michigan Supreme Court, took over the helm of the American Arbitration Association, the largest private provider of alternative dispute resolution services in the world, as its president and chief executive officer. While on the court, McCormack was a leading voice for innovating…
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Ep 234: How Courts, Lawyers and Legal Tech Companies Should Handle Sealed Court Documents: A Panel Discussion
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At a time when legal technology companies are making it easier to access and analyze court documents, what should – and should not – be done to protect confidential court documents that are sealed from public access? This question came to a head last July, when a federal court in North Carolina took the drastic step of issuing a standing order that…
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Ep 233: Zen and the Art of Law Practice Management, with ZenCase’s CEO TJ Fraser and COO Olivia Mockel
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In 2013, when Florida lawyer TJ Fraser set out to find a law practice management solution for his firm, he tested just about every product on the market, he says, but he could not find one that solved the problems he encountered in his day-to-day practice. So, rather than keep looking, he and his team decided to build the solution they needed for t…
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Ep 232: An Inside Look At Driving Innovation within A Major Law Firm and A Major Legal Department
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What are the nuances of driving innovation within a law firm or legal department? For an inside perspective on that question, we speak with Rachel Dooley, who at the time of this recording was chief innovation officer at the law firm Goodwin Procter, and Ilona Logvinova, managing counsel and head of innovation for McKinsey Legal. Dooley and Logvino…
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Ep 231: The Founders of Two Legal Tech Startups: Nicole Clark of Trellis and Kevin Walker and Bryan Davis of Centari
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Today on LawNext, we feature two brief, back-to-back interviews with the founders of two separate legal tech startups, both recorded live during the inaugural Knowledge Management & Innovation for Legal Conference held recently in New York City. First up is Nicole Clark, cofounder and CEO of Trellis, an AI-powered state court research and analytics…
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Ep 230: KM Keynotes: Andrea Alliston, KM Leader At Fasken, and Mark Smolik, GC at DHL, On Disruption and Innovation in Legal
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Today’s episode features two interviews on disruption and innovation in legal, with the two keynote speakers from the inaugural Knowledge Management & Innovation for Legal Conference held recently in New York City: Andrea Alliston, partner and leader of knowledge and practice innovation programs at Fasken, Canada’s largest law firm, and Mark Smolik…
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Episode 195: Future 50 Series – Legal Innovation and Tech in 2023 – A year in review
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This session has become an annual event for us and, this was a BIG year to review the world of legaltech, AI and innovation. So much has happened since ChatGPT exploded onto the market in November 2022. Its impact has been pervasive, even in an industry like legal which would not, in the past, have been described as agile. So, what changed in 2023?…
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Ep 229: AffiniPay CEO Dru Armstrong on the Intersection of Fintech, Legal Tech and AI
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Dru Armstrong was named CEO of AffiniPay, the parent company of LawPay, in July 2021. Less than a year later, AffiniPay shook up the legal tech landscape by acquiring MyCase, one of the leading law practice management platforms, in a deal that also included four other practice management products: CASEPeer for personal injury firms, Docketwise for …
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Episode 194: Future 50 Series – What the future of AI holds for the legal industry
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In this session, we spoke with Beth Patterson, the Founder and Director of legal industry-focused tech consultancy, ESPconnect and an Adjunct Professor (Industry) at UTS Faculty of Law. Beth’s career has the distinctive hallmark of being groundbreaking. The depth and breadth of her experience in tech and legaltech, in tech companies and law firms, …
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Ep 228: The Law Students Working to End Racism in the Legal System
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Each year for the past three years, the LexisNexis African Ancestry Network LexisNexis Rule of Law Foundation Fellowship has awarded fellowships to promising law students to participate in research projects related to eliminating racism in the legal system. This year, 15 students received fellowships of $10,000 each to spend nine months working in …
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Ep 227: Erika Harold, Executive Director, Illinois Supreme Court Commission on Professionalism
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On this episode of LawNext: An interview recorded live with Erika Harold, executive director of the Illinois Supreme Court Commission on Professionalism, an organization charged with working to enhance civility and professionalism and to eliminate bias within the legal profession. A former litigator, Harold was named executive director in April 202…
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Ep 226: Clio Double Header: Chief Technology Officer Jonathan Watson and Chief Product Officer Hemant Kashyap
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On today’sLawNext, it’s a Clio double header, featuring two separate interviews with two of Clio’s top product-focused executives – one with Jonathan Watson, its chief technology officer, and the other with Hemant Kashyap, chief product officer – both recorded live at the Clio Cloud Conference in Nashville in October. Even though I interviewed Wats…
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Episode 193: Future 50 Series – Onit’s AI Center of Excellence
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In this session, we spoke with Jean Yang, the VP and Co-founder of Onit’s AI Center of Excellence. The Center is a note-worthy offering from a software vendor. Jean’s journey to Onit seems like it was a natural progression. A former practising lawyer from New Zealand, she has spent most of her career so far (there’s lots more still to come) at the …
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Ep 225: Did EyeLevel.ai Cause Pras Michel’s Lawyer To Botch His Defense? Cofounder Neil Katz Says That Is ‘Total Nonsense’
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Did Pras Michel’s lawyer botch his defense by relying on an AI program to create his closing argument? That’s what the former Fugees rapper claims in asking a court to overturn his April conviction in an illegal foreign influence scheme. Michel says his lawyer, David Kenner, made a “frivolous and ineffectual” closing argument because he relied on a…
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Episode 192: Future 50 Series – Legal Leaders, Teams, Innovation and Collaboration
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In this session, we spoke with Michele DeStefano about how we can approach change, manage it and leverage it for the benefit of lawyer and allied legal professional wellbeing, for our clients, and legal businesses. Michele knows a thing or two about this from her many roles as law professor, business founder, educator, consultant, and serial entrep…
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