Artwork

Two Degens - Crypto and web3 investing and building from Asia, Two Degens - Crypto, Web3 investing, and Building from Asia에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Two Degens - Crypto and web3 investing and building from Asia, Two Degens - Crypto, Web3 investing, and Building from Asia 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
Player FM -팟 캐스트 앱
Player FM 앱으로 오프라인으로 전환하세요!

EP26 - 21MAR24 - Michael Tiew at LongHash Ventures on the importance of developer ecosystems, how to build, influencers, price leading fundamentals, is ETH a security??

43:04
 
공유
 

Manage episode 412070855 series 3425406
Two Degens - Crypto and web3 investing and building from Asia, Two Degens - Crypto, Web3 investing, and Building from Asia에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Two Degens - Crypto and web3 investing and building from Asia, Two Degens - Crypto, Web3 investing, and Building from Asia 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.

Longhash
Started 2018, one of first web3 accelerators - more Asia focused; Early stage founders
What’s unique - close partnership w/ ecosystems - Polkadot, Filecoin, Acela
Two funds - 2021 defi fund, 2022 infra/multichain fund
Small distributed team
Accelerator
-running since 2018, how has your approach to startups changed since then
-during bear cycles (2022-2023), hard to find capital - accelerator can really help during this phase
-normally it’s a team of 2 cofounders, we’re 3rd cofounder - first check
$100-200K co-invest
-2024 meta - more money and investment options, accelerator is still core element of helping early stage
What accelerator teams had most success and what was different about them?
-if VC is 99% failure, accelerator is even greater risk
-lot of teams just have idea
-bet on background, seasoned founders
-web3 / crypto native, what’s magic of web3
-“great founders pivot with the times”
Ecosystem report
https://www.longhash.vc/post/bootstrapping-developer-ecosystems-for-web3-protocols
-developers are always your first users - b2b2c
-0:1 phase (bootstrap) and 1:100 phase (flywheel)
-0:1 — need technology, need to market it well, core team must be very vocal + present
what is your positioning? Solana = onchain Nasdaq; Bitcoin = digital gold
Bittensor = incentivization platform for AI models
write a lot, be vocal on twitter and farcaster, produce a lot of content
meme season — attention is next currency
-1:100 phase — now u have developers, how do u get them to build interesting stuff
Ronin: focus on helping game devs build good games — dev tools, SDKs, marketplace
address different dev needs (eg, new devs v experienced ones)
How do builders choose between the ecosystems?
Many are mercenary
How do ecosystems retain devs?
- Case studies on Axelar, Berachain, Solana
- Devs wanna go where the users are — eg, narrative that users are migrating to Base
Flywheel
Get best devs to build a few pioneer apps / use cases — get good users — get more devs
Ronin — onboarded Pixels team one year ago, migrated from Polygon, Mavis Hub + Ronin name service, went from 10K to several hundred K DAU
Token price matters a lot in web3
-in bull, everyone wants to stay in ecosystem, get rewards
-in bear / when price crashes, how to retain? Need clear focus on what ecosystem is about, why devs should build there
-for bootstrapping, need well-designed tokenomics so early adopters are rewarded, yet sustainable (deflationary) in long-run
In-person / offline events — hosting events, panels, sponsoring conference tracks
“Everyone building an ecosystem”
L1s > L2s > L3s
L1s > EigenDA / Celestia
Big projects will become own appchains / rollups
Want to become a place where new ideas are built atop
Influencers / crypto Twitter
“Attention is next big world currency”
Everyone attention span getting shorter, TikTok
Crypto next meme coin, next narrative
Few types — investor type (actually invest), founder/builder type (know tech), token price type (appeal to retail, what’s next 10x)
Links shared:
https://x.com/mo_baioumy/status/1760296558539501698
@mo_baioumy AI x Crypto is a hot narrative right now.
https://www.workingtheorys.com/p/before-the-crowd

This is the same way people talk about the good ole days of the San Francisco tech scene (circa late 2000s to mid 2010s). The meetups were more meetup-y. The hackathons were more hack-y. The nerds were more nerdy. Everything in the tech scene felt more authentic, more egalitarian, and less sceney

follow Michael on X @brazenburrit0

  continue reading

54 에피소드

Artwork
icon공유
 
Manage episode 412070855 series 3425406
Two Degens - Crypto and web3 investing and building from Asia, Two Degens - Crypto, Web3 investing, and Building from Asia에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Two Degens - Crypto and web3 investing and building from Asia, Two Degens - Crypto, Web3 investing, and Building from Asia 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.

Longhash
Started 2018, one of first web3 accelerators - more Asia focused; Early stage founders
What’s unique - close partnership w/ ecosystems - Polkadot, Filecoin, Acela
Two funds - 2021 defi fund, 2022 infra/multichain fund
Small distributed team
Accelerator
-running since 2018, how has your approach to startups changed since then
-during bear cycles (2022-2023), hard to find capital - accelerator can really help during this phase
-normally it’s a team of 2 cofounders, we’re 3rd cofounder - first check
$100-200K co-invest
-2024 meta - more money and investment options, accelerator is still core element of helping early stage
What accelerator teams had most success and what was different about them?
-if VC is 99% failure, accelerator is even greater risk
-lot of teams just have idea
-bet on background, seasoned founders
-web3 / crypto native, what’s magic of web3
-“great founders pivot with the times”
Ecosystem report
https://www.longhash.vc/post/bootstrapping-developer-ecosystems-for-web3-protocols
-developers are always your first users - b2b2c
-0:1 phase (bootstrap) and 1:100 phase (flywheel)
-0:1 — need technology, need to market it well, core team must be very vocal + present
what is your positioning? Solana = onchain Nasdaq; Bitcoin = digital gold
Bittensor = incentivization platform for AI models
write a lot, be vocal on twitter and farcaster, produce a lot of content
meme season — attention is next currency
-1:100 phase — now u have developers, how do u get them to build interesting stuff
Ronin: focus on helping game devs build good games — dev tools, SDKs, marketplace
address different dev needs (eg, new devs v experienced ones)
How do builders choose between the ecosystems?
Many are mercenary
How do ecosystems retain devs?
- Case studies on Axelar, Berachain, Solana
- Devs wanna go where the users are — eg, narrative that users are migrating to Base
Flywheel
Get best devs to build a few pioneer apps / use cases — get good users — get more devs
Ronin — onboarded Pixels team one year ago, migrated from Polygon, Mavis Hub + Ronin name service, went from 10K to several hundred K DAU
Token price matters a lot in web3
-in bull, everyone wants to stay in ecosystem, get rewards
-in bear / when price crashes, how to retain? Need clear focus on what ecosystem is about, why devs should build there
-for bootstrapping, need well-designed tokenomics so early adopters are rewarded, yet sustainable (deflationary) in long-run
In-person / offline events — hosting events, panels, sponsoring conference tracks
“Everyone building an ecosystem”
L1s > L2s > L3s
L1s > EigenDA / Celestia
Big projects will become own appchains / rollups
Want to become a place where new ideas are built atop
Influencers / crypto Twitter
“Attention is next big world currency”
Everyone attention span getting shorter, TikTok
Crypto next meme coin, next narrative
Few types — investor type (actually invest), founder/builder type (know tech), token price type (appeal to retail, what’s next 10x)
Links shared:
https://x.com/mo_baioumy/status/1760296558539501698
@mo_baioumy AI x Crypto is a hot narrative right now.
https://www.workingtheorys.com/p/before-the-crowd

This is the same way people talk about the good ole days of the San Francisco tech scene (circa late 2000s to mid 2010s). The meetups were more meetup-y. The hackathons were more hack-y. The nerds were more nerdy. Everything in the tech scene felt more authentic, more egalitarian, and less sceney

follow Michael on X @brazenburrit0

  continue reading

54 에피소드

모든 에피소드

×
 
Loading …

플레이어 FM에 오신것을 환영합니다!

플레이어 FM은 웹에서 고품질 팟캐스트를 검색하여 지금 바로 즐길 수 있도록 합니다. 최고의 팟캐스트 앱이며 Android, iPhone 및 웹에서도 작동합니다. 장치 간 구독 동기화를 위해 가입하세요.

 

빠른 참조 가이드