359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

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This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?
Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:42 - Intro music
02:07 - Introduction
05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 - Why Christian faith?
15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 - The current dialogos
21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 - Intimacy
01:22:18 - We can't be meta
01:27:47 - Universalism
01:29:01 - We each have our callings
01:30:21 - John and Christianity
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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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