Artwork

SpyCast에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 SpyCast 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
Player FM -팟 캐스트 앱
Player FM 앱으로 오프라인으로 전환하세요!

“The Third Option” – US Covert Action with Loch Johnson (Part 1 of 2)

49:40
 
공유
 

Manage episode 350278865 series 170555
SpyCast에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 SpyCast 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.

Summary

Loch Johnson (Website, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss covert action aka “The Third Option.” He is the author of over 30 books on intelligence.

What You’ll Learn

Intelligence

  • What is covert action
  • Four types of covert action
  • Foreign policy options: “War Power,” “Treaty Power,” and “Spy Power.”
  • Examples of CA: Guatemala (1954), Indochina (1965), Afghanistan (2001), Iran (2020)

Reflections

  • Accountability
  • The value of learning from past mistakes

And much, much more …

Episode Notes

There is perhaps no better guest to join Andrew in this week’s exploration of covert action than Professor Emeritus at the University of Georgia Loch Johnson. Loch’s latest book, The Third Option: Covert Action and American Foreign Policy, examines the history of the complicated and sometimes controversial usage of covert action by the U.S. international affairs.

Loch’s decades-long career in foreign policy and intelligence has brought him to the forefront of some of the most seminal moments within US intelligence reform: he served as special assistant to the chair of the Church Committee, staff director of the House Subcommittee on Intelligence Oversight, and worked directly with the chair of the Aspin-Brown Commission.

In this two-part episode of SpyCast, Andrew and Loch unpack what makes a covert action operation successful, and how we can learn from intelligence failures and past mistakes.

And…

How many people have a society named after them? Loch does!

Quote of the Week

"History doesn't like to be shaped, it has a power all of its own, but we try to shape it at least at the margins, and we do that through covert action, sometimes called the third option…and it really comes in four packages. Package number one is propaganda… And then comes political covert actions…Thirdly is economic covert action…And then fourthly, and most dramatically, are paramilitary operations. These are war-like activities." – Loch Johnson.

Resources

SURFACE SKIM

*Featured Resource*

  • The Third Option, L. Johnson (Oxford, 2022)

*Beginner Resources*

*SpyCasts*

DEEPER DIVE

Books

  • A Covert Action: Reagan, the CIA and Poland, S. Jones (W.W. Norton, 2018)
  • The Church Committee Confronts America's Spy Agencies, L. Johnson (UP of Kentucky, 2015)
  • The Brilliant Disaster: JFK, Castro, and the Bay of Pigs, J. Rasenberger (Scribner, 2012)
  • Executive Secrets: Covert Action and the Presidency, W. Daugherty (UP of Kentucky, 2006)
  • Covert Action, G. Treverton (1987)

Articles

Video

Primary Sources

*Wildcard Resource*

  • A 90s cartoon, evil beings threaten humanity, only the Wild C.A.T.s can save them: i.e., Covert Action Teams!
  • “Covert action” as a concept has become part of the entertainment industry

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  continue reading

719 에피소드

Artwork
icon공유
 
Manage episode 350278865 series 170555
SpyCast에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 SpyCast 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.

Summary

Loch Johnson (Website, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss covert action aka “The Third Option.” He is the author of over 30 books on intelligence.

What You’ll Learn

Intelligence

  • What is covert action
  • Four types of covert action
  • Foreign policy options: “War Power,” “Treaty Power,” and “Spy Power.”
  • Examples of CA: Guatemala (1954), Indochina (1965), Afghanistan (2001), Iran (2020)

Reflections

  • Accountability
  • The value of learning from past mistakes

And much, much more …

Episode Notes

There is perhaps no better guest to join Andrew in this week’s exploration of covert action than Professor Emeritus at the University of Georgia Loch Johnson. Loch’s latest book, The Third Option: Covert Action and American Foreign Policy, examines the history of the complicated and sometimes controversial usage of covert action by the U.S. international affairs.

Loch’s decades-long career in foreign policy and intelligence has brought him to the forefront of some of the most seminal moments within US intelligence reform: he served as special assistant to the chair of the Church Committee, staff director of the House Subcommittee on Intelligence Oversight, and worked directly with the chair of the Aspin-Brown Commission.

In this two-part episode of SpyCast, Andrew and Loch unpack what makes a covert action operation successful, and how we can learn from intelligence failures and past mistakes.

And…

How many people have a society named after them? Loch does!

Quote of the Week

"History doesn't like to be shaped, it has a power all of its own, but we try to shape it at least at the margins, and we do that through covert action, sometimes called the third option…and it really comes in four packages. Package number one is propaganda… And then comes political covert actions…Thirdly is economic covert action…And then fourthly, and most dramatically, are paramilitary operations. These are war-like activities." – Loch Johnson.

Resources

SURFACE SKIM

*Featured Resource*

  • The Third Option, L. Johnson (Oxford, 2022)

*Beginner Resources*

*SpyCasts*

DEEPER DIVE

Books

  • A Covert Action: Reagan, the CIA and Poland, S. Jones (W.W. Norton, 2018)
  • The Church Committee Confronts America's Spy Agencies, L. Johnson (UP of Kentucky, 2015)
  • The Brilliant Disaster: JFK, Castro, and the Bay of Pigs, J. Rasenberger (Scribner, 2012)
  • Executive Secrets: Covert Action and the Presidency, W. Daugherty (UP of Kentucky, 2006)
  • Covert Action, G. Treverton (1987)

Articles

Video

Primary Sources

*Wildcard Resource*

  • A 90s cartoon, evil beings threaten humanity, only the Wild C.A.T.s can save them: i.e., Covert Action Teams!
  • “Covert action” as a concept has become part of the entertainment industry

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  continue reading

719 에피소드

Tất cả các tập

×
 
Loading …

플레이어 FM에 오신것을 환영합니다!

플레이어 FM은 웹에서 고품질 팟캐스트를 검색하여 지금 바로 즐길 수 있도록 합니다. 최고의 팟캐스트 앱이며 Android, iPhone 및 웹에서도 작동합니다. 장치 간 구독 동기화를 위해 가입하세요.

 

빠른 참조 가이드

탐색하는 동안 이 프로그램을 들어보세요.
재생