#8 – Using Psychedelics, Tips For Patients and Facilitators w/ Deus Fortier

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Show Notes

The following is a conversation with Deus Fortier. Deus is a plant medicine facilitator who leads workshops in Mexico and does other forms of transformational coaching in Vancouver, Canada. To find out more about him go to https://www.deusfortier.com/ or https://www.thesomaheart.com/

Show Notes: (1:00) Starting a meeting with presence. Grounding, gratitude, and intention

(2:44) Example of establishing a container, a welcoming ritual

(9:51) Introducing Deus Fortier

(11:00) Long term growth. Value of preparation and integration

(13:05) Are Psychedelics for growth or healing? Potential limitations of western science in evaluating psychedelic healings

Rak Razam on 5-MeO-DMT: https://youtu.be/0PtZ-58xZjQ

(18:40) Bufo and 5-MeO-DMT Deus's partner Aga's episode https://pnc.st/s/rupert-radio/670e439e/lessons-from-a-world-class-psychedelic-facilitator-w-aga-postawska

(19:15) How to prepare for optimal psychedelic outcomes

Somatic Scan. https://www.mindfulnessmuse.com/mindfulness-exercises/increase-somatic-awareness-with-a-body-scan-mindfulness-exercise

Also an introduction to Somatic Work. Waking The Tiger: Healing Trauma, by Peter Levine and Ann Frederick - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/384924.Waking_the_Tiger

(27:00) Tips for solo psychedelic trips

(31:30) Devon Christie, of Numinus Wellness. Emphasis on somatic experiencing for psychedelic processes https://numinus.ca/team/dr-devon-christie-md-ccfp

(30:09) Spotlight of attention and addressing difficult sensations https://pnc.st/s/rupert-radio/d0244d42/psychedelic-buddhism-how-to-quit-suffering-w-andras-lenart

(32:15) Science vs Spirituality

Observational Studies: https://www.iwh.on.ca/what-researchers-mean-by/observational-vs-experimental-studies#:~:text=Observational%20studies%20are%20ones%20where,two%20types%20of%20observational%20studies.

Initiative to collect data on psychedelic therapies https://www.quantifiedcitizen.com/

(35:44) Entourage effects. How psychedelics are both therapeutically potent as well as holistically powerful across "many dimensions of our beings simultaneously"

https://psychedelicreview.com/the-entourage-effect-in-magic-mushrooms/

(40:33) Psychedelics eliciting "Mystical Experiences" that participants rate as 1 of their top 3 life experiences, research by R. Griffiths of John Hopkins University

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/press_releases/2006/griffithspsilocybin.pdf

(43:09) What should people avoid when going into a psychedelic experience? The importance of intentions

(48:20) The basic don'ts

(50:10) Examples of great psychedelic practitioners. The benefit of letting go, having support, and acknowledging whatever is true in the present moment

(56:05) The value of having a facilitator, and group vs solo settings

(1:01:19) The size of groups, 2:1 ratio of participants to facilitators

(1:03:13) Research showing group therapy and solo therapy may have equal healing outcomes

https://societyforpsychotherapy.org/individual-vs-group-psychotherapy/

(1:07:57) Role of Music in psychedelics

You can also check out https://pnc.st/s/rupert-radio/2e64a1b6/australian-digeridu-master-and-plant-medicine-guide-shine-edgar

The range of your sensory awareness, aka the Umwelt: https://eagleman.com/science/sensory-substitution/ And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygRNoieAnzI

Medicine Songs, South American Icaros https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icaro

(1:16:21) Modern medicine songs for Westerners https://www.youtube.com/user/BeautifulChorus And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_(Jon_Hopkins_album)

(1:18:00) Deus's Mentors: Satyen Raja: https://acceleratedevolutionacademy.com/ Chris Austen Fletcher: www.9Rings.ca www.HalfmoonHaven.ca www.WholeFamilyHealing.ca Trevor Yelich: https://www.numasomatics.com/trevor-yelich Dana Lynne Andersen: danalynneandersen.com awakeningartsacademy.com Paramahansa Yogananda: https://www.yogananda-srf.org/ "Authobiography of a Yogi" Blackfoot First Nations, Blood tribe of Southern Alberta: https://blackfootconfederacy.ca/

(1:22:15) What personality traits or practices are encouraged across different self development frameworks? Somatic scans

David R. Hawkins: "Power Vs. Force" https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/19795.Power_vs_Force

"Letting Go: The Pathway To Surrender" https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16098910-letting-go?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=g4b6jAJyIJ&rank=1

John Vervaeke's 52 part series free on YouTube called "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54l8_ewcOlY

(1:27:15) Board game recommendations Pandemic: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/30549/pandemic And Gloomhaven, fantasy RPG : https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/174430/gloomhaven

(1:31:28) Imagination is one of the most important qualities we can cultivate Laura Dawn of the Psychedelic Leadership Podcast, on creativity, curiosity and imagination: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/0748f66c-d090-43f8-a683-865b426d0f99

(1:38:10) Passive and active integration

(1:40:30) Radical accountability, honesty of practitioners

(1:45:20) Psychedelics as Jetpacks or Hiking https://pnc.st/s/rupert-radio/4075495e/quit-suffering-with-psychedelic-buddhism-hiking-vs-jetpacks

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