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1 Lainey Wilson, Southern Living Cover Star, Is Keeping Her People Close 31:56
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This week Sid talks to one of the biggest and brightest stars in country music – Lainey Wilson. Back in May, he drove up to Nashville and got to have this conversation in person at Lainey’s farmhouse outside of town. The occasion was a Southern Living cover shoot, and Lainey and Sid sat down on a pair of comfortable chairs in her speakeasy-style basement, which is where she writes a lot of her songs. Lainey couldn’t have been more welcoming as a host, even though she’d been touring nonstop for her latest album, Whirlwind . She’s also hosting the CMA Awards in mid-November, and she’s appearing in the film adaptation of Colleen Hoover’s novel Reminders of Him early next year. But Lainey has clearly not forgotten her small-town roots in Baskin, Louisiana, or the importance of good friends, family, and her faith. She talked a lot about how she stays grounded, how she keeps holding on despite a wild few years in Nashville, and the importance of keeping her people close. She also told some funny stories about her fiance, Devlin Hodges, who goes by Duck, and how she and her family celebrate Thanksgiving. For more info visit: southernliving.com/biscuitsandjam Biscuits & Jam is produced by: Sid Evans - Editor-in-Chief, Southern Living Krissy Tiglias - GM, Southern Living Lottie Leymarie - Executive Producer Michael Onufrak - Audio Engineer & Editor/Producer Jeremiah Lee McVay - Producer Isaac Nunn - Recording Producer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
Making the Museum
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Jonathan Alger에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Jonathan Alger 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
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Jonathan Alger에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Jonathan Alger 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
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Making the Museum
1 Inclusive Design Will Change the World, with Sina Bahram & Corey Timpson 1:05:38
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One in four people has a disability. Why aren’t we designing museums better for them? What is inclusive design? How does it relate to universal design, or the ADA? Which disciplines and departments have to get involved to make a museum truly inclusive? What happened when the military tried to design for the “average” jet pilot? If we design for better accessibility, are we designing for our own future selves? Sina Bahram and Corey Timpson (Principals, Prime Access Consulting) join host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Inclusive Design Will Change the World.” Along the way: curb cuts, multimodality, and the finance department. Talking Points: 1. What is Inclusive Design? 2. The Average Jet Pilot 3. 1 in 4 People have a Disability 4. Vectors of Human Difference 5. Inclusive Design Has No Boundaries 6. It’s a Convincing Company, not an Accessibility One 7. A Company That’s Hopefully Pointless One Day How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bios: Sina Bahram (President, Prime Access Consulting) is a blind computer scientist, consultant, researcher, speaker, mentor, and entrepreneur. He works with executive management, policymakers, engineering teams, content creators, designers, and others to promulgate accessibility and inclusive design throughout an organization. In 2012, President Obama recognized Sina as a White House Champion of Change. Sina and his PAC colleagues collaborate on creating digital experiences (web, app, embedded, projected, and more), immersive media, themed entertainment, capital builds, and any/all aspects of experiential design in order to welcome the widest possible audience. Sina serves on and chairs various corporate, research, and non-profit boards. Sina is a Mission Astro Access ambassador and recipient of a Thea Award. Corey Timpson (Principal, Prime Access Consulting) is an active collaborator and thought leader in the fields of inclusive design, digital media, and experience design within the cultural and themed entertainment industries. As one of the two principals of Prime Access Consulting, Inc. (PAC) Corey's primary focus is to facilitate the creation of inclusive, rich, and meaningful experiences that are welcoming to everyone. Among Corey’s previous positions, he was the Vice-President of Exhibitions, Research, and Design, and concurrently served as the Project Director, for the design-build of the Canadian Museum for Human Rights where his focus was on interpreting difficult knowledge and presenting it through an inclusive, multimodal, and transmedia storytelling approach. Corey’s design leadership has accounted for over 30 international awards in the fields of environmental, exhibition, and graphic design, digital and interactive media, digital systems design, film and linear media, and universal design. Corey serves as an Advisory Board member of Europe’s Best in Heritage and is a board member of the Portrait Gallery of Canada. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. MtM is a project of C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Prime Access Consulting (PAC): https://pac.bz Mosaic (M4C): https://m4c.space Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Like the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips, and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
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1 A Collaborative Approach to Exhibition Making (The New Book), with Emily Saich & Joey Noelle Scott 1:02:29
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Is there a better way to collaborate? What’s the secret to good feedback? How do you manage 40 people in a room? Are group facilitators ever truly neutral? Should you tell your teammates their responsibilities, or have them tell you? What’s a RACI chart? If collaboration is so important, why hasn’t there been a book about it — until now? Emily Saich (Vice President of Exhibitions) and Joey Noelle Scott (Director of Exhibition Projects) from the Monterey Bay Aquarium discuss their new book “A Collaborative Approach to Exhibition Making” with host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio). Along the way: post-mortems, “Yes And,” and cardboard kelp cutouts. Talking Points: 1. A book for creatives, facilitators, and problem-solvers 2. Create responsibilities * with* collaborators 3. Truly neutral facilitators are rare 4. Healthy teams seek feedback 5. Build trust with contractors 6. Celebrate the work How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bios: Emily Saich has more than twenty years of experience leading exhibition development, design, prototyping, and fabrication of exhibitions and innovative visitor experiences. She has worked on several award-winning and influential exhibitions and managed projects for all types of museums and organizations, including science centers, natural history museums, children’s museums, public gardens, performing art centers, art museums, historic sites, zoos, and aquariums. Emily is vice president of Exhibitions at the Monterey Bay Aquarium, where she leads vision and strategy for major exhibitions and guides collaborative teams through design and creation of visitor-centered experiences. Emily holds a Bachelor of Arts in studio art from California Polytechnic University, Humboldt, and a Masters of Fine Arts from Tyler School of Art and Architecture at Temple University. Joey Noelle Scott is the director of Exhibition Projects at the Monterey Bay Aquarium where she leads teams that create innovative exhibitions that inspire conservation of the ocean. With 20 years of experience in educational and museum settings, she’s led a diversity of projects, including the creation of curriculum, professional development programs, digital products, and exhibitions. She’s built expertise in facilitation, program development, and project management with a particular focus on developing processes that support collaboration, creativity, and productivity. Her formal training includes a Bachelors of Science in genetics, an MA in education, and a certification as a Project Management Professional and LEED AP ID+C. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. MtM is a project of C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: How to Buy “A Collaborative Approach to Exhibition Making” (The New Book): https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/collaborative-approach-to-exhibition-making-9781538185261/ https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-collaborative-approach-to-exhibition-making-emily-saich/ee61b106aedc6e38?ean=9781538185261&next=t Emily Saich on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilysaich/ Joey Noelle Scott on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joey-noelle-scott-6359aa12/ Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Like the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips, and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
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Is a museum where experiences happen — or is the museum the experience? Can a museum be designed to inspire? What is the Medal of Honor? What role does a bold design idea have in making a project happen? Does the mission of a museum inspire the people who make it? Can everyone have a mission? Bassam Komati, AIA OEAB (Partner, Viñoly Architects) discusses “Making the Medal of Honor Museum” with host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio). Along the way: floating blocks, extra helicopters, and going above and beyond the call of duty. Talking Points: 1. What is the Medal of Honor? 2. A Museum Meant to Inspire 3. The Origin of a Design Idea 4. A Tour of the Museum 5. A Building Team Inspired by a Cause 6. Everybody Can Have a Mission How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Bassam Komati, AIA OEAB, joined Rafael Viñoly Architects in 2006 and became a partner in 2019, contributing to major projects on four continents. He collaborated closely with Rafael Viñoly on conceptual designs, leading design development and coordination through digital and BIM platforms. As Partner-in-Charge of the National Medal of Honor Museum in Texas, he has led all phases since the firm’s 2019 competition win. His portfolio includes London’s Battersea Power Station Master Plan, NYU Abu Dhabi, and projects in corporate, commercial, research, and healthcare sectors. He holds degrees from Harvard University and the American University of Beirut and speaks internationally on architecture. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. MtM is a project of C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Bassam Komati Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bassam-komati-562a11154/ National Medal of Honor Museum Website: https://mohmuseum.org Instagram: @mohmuseum Rafael Viñoly Architects Website: https://vinoly.com Project page: https://vinoly.com/works/national-medal-honor-museum/ Instagram: @rva_ny Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rafael-vinoly-architects/ Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Like the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips, and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
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1 Mission: Collaboration, with Barbara Miller and Danae Colomer 57:24
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What are the (top) secrets of better collaboration? Is collaboration like a game of ping pong? Or more like ballroom dancing? Is there a better way to disagree? Does having constraints make design ... better? How is an exhibition like a film? And what happens when your project feels — in this case, even literally — like “Mission: Impossible”? Barbara Miller (Deputy Director for Curatorial Affairs, Museum of the Moving Image) and Danae Colomer (Director of Exhibition Management and Design, Museum of the Moving Image) discuss “Mission: Collaboration” with host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio). Along the way: zombies, skateboards, and messages that self-destruct. Talking Points: 1. A Moving Experience 2. What is Collaboration? 3. Is It Ping Pong ... or Ballroom Dancing? 4. Constraints Make a Stronger Design 5. Sometimes It’s Mission: Impossible How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bios: Barbara Miller is Deputy Director for Curatorial Affairs at Museum of the Moving Image in New York, where she organizes exhibitions and directs the content of the Museum’s permanent collection of material culture related to film, television and digital media. Major projects at MoMI include The Jim Henson Exhibition; Deepfake: Unstable Evidence on Screen; and Born Digital: Pathways Towards Preservation , an Andrew W. Mellon-funded initiative to institute sustainable collection and exhibition practices related to digital media. Prior to joining MoMI in 2009, Miller's wide-ranging research and storytelling projects included work on the nationally broadcast PBS documentary American Roots Music , for which she earned an Emmy nomination. She holds a Ph.D. in Cultural Anthropology from New York University. Danae Colomer is an architect and exhibition designer with over 15 years of experience across museum, architecture, and film design. She is passionate about the power of storytelling and how it can be translated into physical space to create meaningful, immersive experiences. Originally from Spain, Danae discovered her passion for exhibition design at the Centre Georges Pompidou in Paris. Since relocating to New York in 2009, she worked at Ralph Appelbaum Associates on award-winning museums worldwide. In 2021, she joined the Museum of the Moving Image as Director of Exhibition Management and Design. She holds a Master’s in Architecture from the Escuela Técnica Superior de Arquitectura de Madrid and a Master’s in Exhibition Design from FIT in New York. When she’s not designing exhibitions, Danae explores the world through the curious eyes of her children — which currently means mastering the rules of soccer and decoding the unique language of skateboarding. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. MtM is a project of C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Barbara by Email: bmiller@movingimage.org Barbara on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-miller-8b788b13b/ Danae by Email: dcolomer@movingimage.org Danae on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danaecolomer/ Museum of the Moving Image (MoMI): https://movingimage.org/ “Mission: Impossible — Story and Spectacle” (Exhibition at MoMI): https://movingimage.org/event/mission-impossible-story-and-spectacle/ Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Like the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips, and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
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1 The Art of Choosing a Museum Architect, with Susanna Sirefman 56:47
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How do you choose the right architect for your museum? Is architecture about more than a building? Is architect selection about more than architecture? What is a design “brief”? Why are museum projects on “elephant time”? Are anonymous open design competitions a good thing? What comes after “good design is good business”? Susanna Sirefman (President, Dovetail Design Strategists) discusses “The Art of Choosing a Museum Architect” with host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio). Along the way: cello studies, Winston Churchill, and two lions named Patience and Fortitude. Talking Points: 1. Design excellence is a basic human right 2. Architecture is about more than a building 3. Architect selection is about more than architecture 4. Selecting the right architect is vital 5. Ask the right questions and you’ll get the right answers 6. Moving beyond “Good design is good business” How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Susanna Sirefman, President and Founder of Dovetail Design Strategists, draws from extensive knowledge of the latest design and building trends, providing her clients with unmatched access to both emerging and acclaimed talent in architecture. Trained as an architect at the renowned Architectural Association School of Architecture in London, England, Susanna’s deep knowledge of the field informs her ability to advise on design, synthesize architectural concepts, making architecture accessible to the public. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. MtM is a project of C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Susanna on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanna-sirefman-17b8a813/ Susanna by email: info@dovetailstrategists.com Dovetail Design Strategists: https://www.dovetailstrategists.com Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Like the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips, and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
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What if every museum were more like ... a children’s museum? Why is play “agnostic”? Can you design an entire museum for every generation, all at the same time? How are children’s museums like (and not like) other museums? How did they get that way? Wait, could we make an entire exhibition out of nothing but cardboard boxes? What is “co-learning”? And why don’t more museum people visit … other people’s museums? Along the way: teaching artists, art teachers, and what we really mean by “caregiver.” Talking Points: 1. Children’s museums, then and now 2. See the word “museum” differently 3. Play is agnostic 4. Designing for multiple generations 5. Caregivers as co-learners 6. Why professionals should visit other museums How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Edwin Link, M.Ed., serves as the Executive Director of Children’s Museum of Atlanta, where he applies his 18 years of experience in the nonprofit, arts, education, children museums, and youth development sectors. His experience includes developing and executing national initiatives focused on serving families in under-resourced communities, building community responsive experiences that create joy and wonder, building strategic partnerships, driving revenue to support strategic objectives, and identifying and implementing change management processes for operational efficiency. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. MtM is a project of C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Edwin Link on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwinlink/ The Children’s Museum of Atlanta: https://childrensmuseumatlanta.org/ Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Like the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips, and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
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1 A Museum Transformed with AI, with Kimberly Beaudin & Geoff Thatcher 1:06:56
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What can we learn from one of the most complex AI projects in any museum today? What is the history of AI in museums? Can we add AI to our experiences without a complete renovation? How do you teach an AI about 775 different football teams? How can AI put visitors literally into a story? Is AI accurate enough for a museum? What about bias? Doesn’t AI take away jobs? And how do you specify exactly what shade of college football orange you want to an AI — if you can only use words? Kimberly Beaudin (CEO, College Football Hall of Fame) and Geoff Thatcher (Founder & Chief Creative Officer, Creative Principals) discuss “A Museum Transformed with AI” with host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio). Along the way: Hypercinema, Salvador Dalí, and net promoter scores. Talking Points: 1. A College Football Museum Transformed with AI 2. History of AI in Museums 3. Adding, Not Redesigning 4. Putting Visitors in the Story: Cheerleader, Coach, Player 5. Accuracy, Inclusivity and Jobs 6. What We Learned 7. What Visitors Are Saying How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bios: Kimberly Beaudin is the Chief Executive Officer for the Chick-fil-A College Football Hall of Fame, one of Atlanta’s top attractions, and college football’s mecca. Beaudin joined the College Football Hall of Fame in June 2015 as the Vice President of Marketing and Communications. With over 20 years of experience in leading brand development and marketing strategy, she was later promoted to oversee the sales operations of the business in March 2016. In April 2020, Beaudin was appointed CEO of the Hall of Fame, making her the first female leader of the storied attraction. In her role as CEO, Beaudin focuses on strategic marketing initiatives, community and public relations, group sales and event sales as well as philanthropic development and partnership sales and activation. Geoff Thatcher is an experienced creative director who excels at leading projects from concept to reality. These projects are most often about creating world-class experiences in corporate visitor centers, executive briefing centers, museums, theme parks and live events.Great experiences are distinguished by great story telling. Whether it’s interviewing executives about the future of health care in America, walking the Fort Worth assembly line of the F-35 Lightning II or listening to a seventh-generation Hawaiian play ukulele in her living room, it all begins with finding the story and translating it into memorable experiences. Geoff’s passion and experience in leadership development is ultimately about creating an environment where great work can get done together. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. MtM is a project of C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Kimberly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-hartley-beaudin-a547933/ Kimberly by email: kbeaudin@cfbhall.com College Football Hall of Fame: https://www.cfbhall.com/ Geoff on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoffthatcher/ Geoff by email: gthatcher@creativeprincipals.com Creative Principals: https://www.creativeprincipals.com/ Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Like the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips, and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
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1 Creating Effective Museum Experiences, with Lynda Roscoe Hartigan 1:04:24
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What if the secret to better museums was … neuroscience? How can museums inspire human creativity? How much media should be in a gallery — or should there be any? How soon should you get feedback on your exhibition ideas? Can museums help us all “escape the algorithm”? What does knitting have to do with visitor satisfaction? In this episode, we’ll learn some unexpected tricks of the trade from a renowned museum leader. Lynda Roscoe Hartigan (The Rose-Marie and Eijk van Otterloo Executive Director and CEO of the Peabody Essex Museum) discusses “Creating Effective Museum Experiences” with host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio). Along the way: standup comedy, Iris Apfel, and moon chairs. Talking Points: 1. Embrace Human Creativity 2. Design is Critical — Use Media Wisely 3. Knit Experiences 4. Escape the Algorithm 5. Know Your Audience — Get Feedback Early 6. Consider the Neuroscience How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Lynda Roscoe Hartigan is The Rose-Marie and Eijk van Otterloo Executive Director and CEO of the Peabody Essex Museum. As a curator, scholar and museum executive, Lynda Roscoe Hartigan brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to PEM. During her time as Chief Curator at the Smithsonian American Art Museum, she led an internationally recognized acquisition initiative to build collections of works by Black, self-taught and modern and contemporary artists. In 2003, Lynda was appointed as PEM’s first Chief Curator and in 2016 became Deputy Director. Overseeing the interpretation and installation of PEM’s new wing, she was integral to developing and advancing the museum’s innovative exhibition program, collection stewardship, fundraising, education, publishing, digital and global leadership initiatives. Most recently, she was Deputy Director for Collections and Research and Chief Innovation Officer at the Royal Ontario Museum, Canada's largest museum dedicated to art, culture and the sciences. Lynda has returned to PEM to become the museum’s first woman director and to boldly lead the nation’s oldest continually operating and ever-evolving museum forward. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. MtM is a project of C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Lynda’s Email: lynda_hartigan@pem.org Lynda on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynda-hartigan-762b475/ Lynda’s Thesis: "Grandma Moses and the Implications of Memory,' in Grandma Moses in the 21st Century, Jane Kallir, ed., Art Services International, Alexandria, VA, 2001, pp. 64-79. https://www.amazon.com/Grandma-Moses-Century-Jane-Kallir/dp/0300089279 Calder exhibition: https://www.pem.org/exhibitions/calder-and-abstraction-from-avant-garde-to-iconic Ansel Adams exhibition: https://www.pem.org/exhibitions/ansel-adams-at-the-waters-edge Escape the Algorithm, PEM’s latest ad campaign: https://www.pem.org/blog/turning-heads-pems-chief-marketing-officer-gives-the-scoop-on-the-museums-new-brand-campaign Neuroscience initiative: https://www.pem.org/about-pem/pem-initiatives/neuroscience-initiative Art Pharmacy from Mass Cultural Council: https://www.artpharmacy.co/ FutureMuseum (PEM will be hosting museum leaders for this event on May 28 and 29, 2025): https://www.museumbooster.com/future-museum Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | The Exhibition and Experience Design Studio: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Like the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips, and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
What if a museum were more like a laboratory? What if our exhibits were experiments? What if our galleries were more about questions, rather than answers? What if we didn’t fear failure as much? What if scientists, artists, and technologists all created exhibitions together? What happens when you edit an exhibit about editing DNA? Should every project have a post-opening contingency — in addition to the normal kind? Ann Neumann (Director of Galleries and Exhibitions, MIT Museum) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Museum as Lab.” Along the way: circadian rhythms, robots, maritime paintings, and a huge spiderweb you can play like a musical instrument. Talking Points: 1. The MIT Museum 2. Scientists, Artists, and Technologists 3. Editing the Genetics Gallery 4. Spiderweb Concert 5. Circadian Biology: Lighten Up 6. Moving 1,500,000 Objects How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Ann Neumann, Director of Galleries and Exhibitions at the MIT Museum, leads conceptual planning of museum exhibitions presenting MIT’s research, collections, and innovation in science, art, design and technology in the heart of the biotech corridor. Her focus is on the museum as an experimental test bed for ideas, conversations and experiences that reflect the critical issues of culture and society. She’s the recipient of numerous awards for her work and named a Blooloop Museum Influencer in 2024. Her experience developing museums and science centers in the US and internationally reflect a commitment to expanding the human experience and science understanding through interdisciplinary collaborations, visual communication and the built environment. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. MtM is a project of C&G Partners, the exhibition and experience design studio. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Ann by Email: neumanna@mit.edu Ann on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ann-neumann MIT Museum: https://mitmuseum.mit.edu Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | Design for Culture: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Liked the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
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What if we're doing community engagement … wrong? How long should the process really take for a museum or exhibition? What’s the difference between demographics and psychographics? What does it mean to “move at the pace of community”? Why do community engagement experts sometimes cringe when they hear the word “charrette”? And what exactly does “community” mean? Nu Goteh (Founder and Principal of ROOM FOR MAGIC, and Co-Founder of Deem Journal ) joins MtM host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Community Engagement Misconceptions.” Along the way: Red Bull, lived experience experts, and Burnt Caramel Cookie Crumble. Talking Points: 1. What Does Community Mean? 2. Moving at the Pace of Community 3. Engagement Isn’t Free 4. Finding Partner Organizations 5. Charrettes Are One Tactic (They’re Not a Strategy) 6. The Inherent Tensions 7. The Ice Cream Test How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Hi, I’m Nu—a designer, strategist, and educator dancing between design, culture, pedagogy and socially-engaged art. My practice integrates and reframes design beyond aesthetics. I’m interested in how design can serve as a catalyst for meaningful social change, informed by my Liberian heritage and a commitment to counter-culture ideals. I believe in the regenerative power of creativity to reimagine what is possible and to shape more inclusive and sustainable futures. As the Founder and Principal of ROOM FOR MAGIC (studio practice) and the Co-Founder of Deem Journal (research & narrative practice), I see design as more than a tool—it's a language that connects people, places, and histories, offering pathways to restore and reshape the world. For me, design carries within it the life of communities, the rhythm of culture, and the potential for social regeneration. I am passionate about creating projects that not only spark imagination but also nurture a sense of being, becoming and belonging. Whether building platforms for dialogue or designing systems for change, I am driven by a vision of community-focused spaces that invite others to participate, collaborate, and thrive. Design, at its best, becomes a bridge—a way to reclaim agency and envision new possibilities. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Nu via Email: nu@roomformagic.com Room for Magic: https://www.roomformagic.com Nu’s Personal Website: https://www.nugoteh.com Deem Journal: https://www.deemjournal.com @deemjournal (Instagram) Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | Design for Culture: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Liked the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
What if we combined immersion, emotion, storytelling — and games? We all want “engagement” … but what is engagement? How can our projects create it? What are the elements that go into it? Can game theory and play teach us how to make our experiences better? What is “narrative transportation”? Why are emotions key to memory creation? And what do Renaissance fairs have to do with museums? Ed Rodley (Co-Founder and Principal, The Experience Alchemists), joins MtM host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Playful Engagement.” Along the way: holodecks, Sleep No More, portmanteaus, and Ed’s upcoming book. Talking Points: 1. What is “Playful Engagement”? 2. The Magic Circle 3. Immersion 4. Emotion 5. Storytelling 6. Games and Play How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Ed Rodley, Co-Founder & Principal, The Experience Alchemists (TEA), is an award-winning experience designer with over thirty-five years’ experience in making exhibitions and experiences for cultural organizations large and small. Incorporating emerging technologies into museum practice has been a theme throughout his career. As a thought leader in the digital transformation of the cultural sector, Ed frequently speaks at events around the world like ICOM’s International Symposium 2024 in Dubai and the National Digital Forum 2023 in New Zealand. He was one of Blooloop’s 50 Museum Influencers for 2021. His book “Designing for Playful Engagement in Museums” is due out in Summer 2025 from Routledge. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Ed Rodley by Email: ed@theexperiencealchemists.com The Experience Alchemists https://www.theexperiencealchemists.com “Taking the Plunge” in Museum Magazine https://www.aam-us.org/2022/11/01/taking-the-plunge/ This article discusses the current state of immersive experiences, some of the conversations around these experiences and their “authenticity” and surveys the psychological research into immersion in digital environments to explore what makes them compelling. "Thinking about Museums" Blog https://thinkingaboutmuseums.com/ Ed’s personal weblog on museums, content, design, and why they matter. Museopunks: The Podcast for the Progressive Museum https://www.aam-us.org/programs/about-museums/museopunks/ Ed had the distinct pleasure of co-hosting with Suse Anderson her AAM-sponsored podcast which investigated the fascinating work and personalities in and around the museum sector, with a focus on emergent, boundary-pushing work and ideas. Humanizing the Digital: Unproceedings from the MCN 2018 Conference https://ad-hoc-museum-collective.github.io/humanizing-the-digital/ This book explored how museums can use technology to foster human connection and dialogue, advance accessibility and inclusion, and champion inquiry and knowledge, drawn from the Museum Computer Network conference. CODE | WORDS - Technology and Theory in the Museum https://medium.com/code-words-technology-and-theory-in-the-museum Brought together leading museum thinkers and practitioners to explore emerging issues about the nature of museums in the light of the dramatic and ongoing impact of digital technologies. Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | Design for Culture: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Liked the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
Can a statue change American history? How do we decide who gets a statue? What happens when you realize how many people deserve a statue but never got one? What’s the difference between a “forensic sculpture” for an interpretive exhibition, and one you’d put in a fine art show? Why are some museums just not complete without a bronze statue of the main characters? Are there “statues of limitations”? Ivan Schwartz (Founder and Director of StudioEIS), joins MtM host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Sculpting History.” Along the way: hagiography, phalanges, and ketchup bottles made of bronze. Talking Points: 1. What is a “Forensic” Sculpture? 2. Sculptor as Visual Storyteller 3. How to Sculpt a President 4. A Phone Call from the Archives 5. Telling History Like It Is 6. Statues of LImitation How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Ivan Schwartz is the founder and director of StudioEIS. He is a sculptor, painter, and designer, with a keen interest in American history and the use of sculpture in the development of our national symbols. With a degree in sculpture from The College of Fine Arts at Boston University, he packed up and spent a year working in Pietrasanta, Italy in the early 1970s. He was the recipient of a distinguished alumni award from Boston University in 2003, and has shown his work in New York since 1981. Ivan was a member of the Dean’s Advisory Board at Boston University’s College of Fine Arts until the end of 2009 and was also a founding board member of Art Omi, an international arts workshop. He was also President of Innovators in America, 2009-2011, working closely with Sir Harold Evans. The StudioEIS archive was acquired by the Briscoe Center for American History at the University of Texas, Austin, in 2014 in association with a new area of study on American symbols. StudioEIS has created hundreds of projects in its 50-year history; most notably for: The National Constitution Center, The New York Historical Society, The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, The Virginia Women’s Monument, and The National Museums of African American History and Natural History. The studio has explored the American Presidency, Military History and Civil Rights history extensively. Current Projects include the Clara Luper Memorial that will be unveiled in May in Oklahoma City and Theodore Roosevelt & Barack Obama Presidential Libraries. Ivan has been seen recently on the CBS Sunday Morning program and at the Lyndon Johnson Library in conversation with Doris Kearns Goodwin on the subject of Abraham Lincoln. His film: “Lest We Forget, Statues of Limitation,” can be seen on Vimeo. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Ivan by Email: ivan@studioeis.com StudioEIS Online: https://www.studioeis.com “Lest We Forget: Statues of Limitation” on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/211595498 Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | Design for Culture: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Liked the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
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1 Secrets of Museum Display Case Design, with Stéphanie Bilodeau 55:50
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How do you make a museum display case disappear? This episode is a masterclass in museum display case design. To the untrained eye, museum display cases look like what you’d find in a gift shop. But under the hood, they couldn’t be more different — and they are 100% unique to the museum world. Secrets we’ll reveal: art envelopes, non-offgassing, air exchange rates, and how glass is never, ever just glass. How can a display case be sealed, yet also designed to leak? What exactly makes a museum display case conservation grade? How do those little packets of silica gel work? Stéphanie Bilodeau, (Director, Sales and Business Development, Zone Display Cases in Québec City, Canada), joins MtM host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to reveal the “Secrets of Museum Display Case Design.” Along the way: reclaimed wood from Oregon, ordering a lot of insects, and falling in love with an industry. Talking Points: 1. What Makes a Display Case "Conservation-Grade"? 2. The Basics: Microclimates, Art Envelopes, and Air Exchange Rates 3. How to Balance Conservation, Operation, and Design 4. Can a Display Case Look Antique but Be Modern? 5. Think You Know Glass? 6. I Need a Display Case - Now What? How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Listen at Making the Museum, the Website: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Born and raised in Québec City, Stéphanie has an extensive academic background in science, with multiple years of focused studies, including a specialization in entomology and a marketing certificate from Université Laval. She joined Zone Display Cases in 2011, drawn to the company’s collaborative and people-centered culture. Over the years, she progressed from Internal Sales and Project Management to Director of Sales and Marketing in 2018. Known for her energy and sociability, Stéphanie is highly skilled and passionate about supporting the various trades within the museum community. Her scientific expertise offers a unique perspective on artifact preservation, helping to showcase and protect cultural and historical treasures. About Making the Museum: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Links for This Episode: Zone Display Cases: https://www.zonedisplaycases.com Email Stéphanie Bilodeau: steph@zonedisplaycases.com Stéphanie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/st%C3%A9phanie-bilodeau-52269177/ Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger Email Jonathan Alger: alger@cgpartnersllc.com C&G Partners | Design for Culture: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/ Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Liked the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a newsletter on exhibition planning and design — for museum leaders, exhibition teams, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/…
Can a building tell a story? How do you design a glass wall to be ... mist? What if architecture, landscape, and exhibitions were all thought of as one thing? What changes when you etch barbed wire into a handrail? How can the floor plan of an entire museum relate to a nautilus shell? What does “A.D.R.O.I.T.” stand for? We’re going to find out, so notebooks at the ready. Alan Reed, FAIA, LEED AP (President and Design Principal of GWWO Architects), joins MtM host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Story-Based Design.” Along the way: dendrites, neurons, Seminole history, and a famous mathematical sequence that goes 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13 … Talking Points: 1. What is Story-Based Design? 2. Do the Research 3. Define the Essence 4. One Experience: Architecture + Landscape + Exhibitions 5. Intuitive Wayfinding: A.D.R.O.I.T. 6. Materials Matter, Down to the Details How to Listen: Listen on Apple Podcasts > Listen on Spotify > Listen at Making the Museum, the Website > Links to Every Podcast Service, via Transistor > Guest Bio: Alan Reed, FAIA, LEED AP is President and Design Principal of GWWO Architects. Alan has focused his career on the planning and design of facilities that engage users, foster interaction, and enhance communities. Alan is a regular speaker on issues related to museum and interpretive facility design. He has spoken at numerous conferences, on many panels, and for many organization events including the National Association for Interpretation Conference, Mid-Atlantic Association of Museums Conference, Southeastern Museums Conference, and Building Museums Symposium. His work has been featured by Architectural Record and Metropolis , among other publications, and has received accolades at the national, regional, and local levels. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn more about the creative work of C&G Partners > Links for This Episode: Email Alan Reed Alan Reed on LinkedIn GWWO Architects Projects referenced: Pikes Peak Summit Visitor Center Ralph C. Wilson, Jr. Welcome Center at Niagara Falls State Park Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad Visitor Center Cade Museum for Creativity & Invention George Washington’s Mount Vernon Ford Orientation Center and Donald W. Reynolds Museum & Education Center Links for Making the Museum, the Podcast: Contact Making the Museum Host Jonathan Alger, Managing Partner of C&G Partners, on LinkedIn Email Jonathan Alger C&G Partners | Design for Culture Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Liked the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe here >…
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How would you design an exhibit — if an animal’s life depended on it? What is the number one reason people come to the National Aquarium? When should you take ego out of design? What is a “machine for living”? Which is right: “know-feel-do” or “feel-know-do”? (Hint: might not be the first one.) Why would an aquarium visitor want to hear from the people who take care of the animals? What happens when you float an entire Chesapeake wetland on top of the ocean, in the middle of Baltimore Harbor? How have kitchens and exhibits had a similar evolution? Jacqueline Bershad, Vice President of Planning & Design at the National Aquarium, joins MtM host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Designing with Animals.” Along the way: plankton, anemones, turtles, ducks, night herons, sloths, and rockwork sculpting geniuses. Talking Points: 1. Architecture with a Small “a" 2. Embracing Unlearning 3. When Your Clients Can’t Speak for Themselves 4. Behind the Scenes IS the Scene 5. Passionate People and Pragmatic Problems 6. Vision with a Big “V” How to Listen: Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Jacqueline Bershad, Vice President of Planning & Design at the National Aquarium, is a licensed, LEED certified architect with 25 years of experience in the design of museums, exhibit experiences, zoos and aquaria. Her team is responsible for all capital improvement projects, experiential design, exhibit fabrication and operations. She represents the Aquarium at national conferences including AAM, MAAM, AZA and ASLA; has published on museum experience in national outlets; and was appointed by the Mayor to serve on Baltimore’s Public Art Commission. Jacqueline holds a Master’s in Architecture from North Carolina State University, Master’s of Science in Architecture from the University of North Carolina with a specialty in the design of public space, and a Bachelor’s in History from Wesleyan University. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Links for This Episode: JBershad@aqua.org Jacqueline on LinkedIn National Aquarium - Harbor Wetland Baltimore Floats an Artificial Wetland in Pursuit of a Cleaner Harbor - Bloomberg National Weather Desk Harbor Wetland National Aquarium Strategic Master Plan – Studio Gang Harbor Wetland — Ayers Saint Gross Urban Aquatic Health: Integrating New Technologies and Resiliency into Floating Wetlands. | 2018 ASLA Professional Awards Evolutionary Thinking in Habitats® - CLR Design Links for MtM, the Podcast: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Discover Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Liked the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with a one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, audience, budgeting, content, and project management. Subscribe here (and unsubscribe at any time): https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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How do you make an institution that's both a museum and a memorial — at the same time? How are exhibitions like theater? Is a museum a group experience, or a personal one — or is that a trick question? When is it time to trust your gut? Why is collaboration so important? When is a single milk can the most important object in a museum? How can one single, simple philosophy inform everyone’s work, from the curators to the team making mounts for the artifacts? How are the principles of making a memorial museum different from other types of museums — or are they so different after all? Alice Greenwald (Principal of Memory Matters, LLC, and past President and Chief Executive Officer of the National September 11 Memorial & Museum) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Making a Memorial Museum.” Along the way: spackling, reverence, and what happens when a museum director leaves their office door open. Talking Points: 0. What is a Memorial Museum? 1. Start With Authenticity 2. It’s About Storytelling 3. Museums Are Not Books 4. Practice Conscientious Listening 5. Trust Your Gut 6. Collaboration is Required How to Listen: Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Alice M. Greenwald is internationally recognized as a leader in the field of museum practice, with expertise in history, ethnic heritage, and memorial museums. Currently the principal of Memory Matters, LLC, providing strategic advice to museums, memorial projects, senior executives, and boards, she served as President and Chief Executive Officer of the National September 11 Memorial & Museum from 2017-2022 and from 2006 to 2016, as the organization’s Founding Museum Director and Executive Vice President for Exhibitions, Collections and Education. Previously, she was Associate Museum Director, Museum Programs, at the United States Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC. Alice serves on the boards of the Aurora Humanitarian Initiative and the United Kingdom Holocaust Memorial Foundation and is a Trustee Emerita at Central Synagogue in New York City. She is First Vice President of The Lotos Club, and in January 2024, concluded her service as a board member of the International Council of Museums-US. She holds an M.A. in the History of Religions from the University of Chicago Divinity School, and a B.A with concentrations in English Literature and Anthropology from Sarah Lawrence College, where she delivered the commencement address to the class of 2007. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Links for This Episode: Alice by Email: alice.m.greenwald@gmail.com Alice at Memory Matters: https://www.memorymattersllc.com National September 11th Memorial & Museum: https://www.911memorial.org United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: https://www.ushmm.org Links for MtM, the Podcast: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Discover Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Liked the show? You might enjoy the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. (And newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Join hundreds of your peers with an ad-free quick one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, visitors, budgeting, content, and project management, to name just a few. Subscribe here (and unsubscribe at any time): https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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1 A New Community for the Exhibition Field, with Cybelle Jones, Steven Rosen, and George Mayer 40:19
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Is there an organization for the exhibition field? A new initiative is picking up steam. The exhibition community in the US, some say, has recently gone from having “nearly one” professional organization — to none at all. That’s because of the unexpected 2023 dissolution of NAME, the National Association for Museum Exhibition, a group within the American Alliance of Museums (AAM). But now a new effort is rising at SEGD, an international organization headquartered in the US. It takes the form of a PPG, or professional practice group, specific to exhibition practitioners. How can everyone in the field access professional development and mentorship? What is the role of networking in a professional community? Should there be better standards for the field? Cybelle Jones (CEO of SEGD) and the cofounders of the new PPG, Steven Rosen (President and Creative Director, Available Light), and George Mayer (Retired Vice President of Business Development, Kubik Maltbie), join host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “A New Home for the Exhibition Community.” Along the way: how listeners can get involved, the role of local meetups, and what a survey revealed that people in the field most urgently need. Talking Points: Elevate Advocate Educate Standardize Socialize Celebrate How to Listen: Making the Museum: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere: https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bios: Cybelle Jones is CEO of SEGD, a multidisciplinary community creating experiences that connect people to place. SEGD is a non-profit member organization focusing on education, innovation and design excellence by designing more equitable, sustainable, and user-centric environments. Prior to joining SEGD, Cybelle led numerous acclaimed design projects during her 25+ year tenure as Principal of G&A, including the National WWII Museum, the International Spy Museum, and the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Museum. Cybelle is actively involved in various boards and has spoken on the field of experience design at AAM, the V&A, FIT, AIGA, AIA and MuseumNext. Steven Rosen, President and Creative Director, Available Light: Merging performance lighting techniques with traditional non-theatrical environments launched Steven’s career and his founding of Available Light over 30 years ago. From Museum exhibits to immersive architecture to trade shows, the fun never stops—it helps that he works with some of the planet’s most talented lighting aficionados. The originality and grand scale of Steven’s award-winning designs are evident in many one-of-a-kind award-winning projects as: The Neural Climber interactive at the Franklin Institute, Ocean Hall for the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History, the International Spy Museum in DC, and Chicago MSI’s U-505. He is passionate about supporting the lighting community. George Mayer first joined Maltbie Associates in 1986 and was responsible for identifying new business opportunities, proposal writing, presentations, contract negotiation, and oversight of project management teams to ensure satisfactory fulfillment for permanent and traveling exhibits. From 2002 to 2009, George worked as the founding director of a new museum fabrication business for Art Guild, Inc., a nationally active trade show exhibits producer. In 2010, George rejoined Maltbie (now Kubik Maltbie, Inc.) as Vice President of Business Development. He retired from the firm in June of 2022. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Links for This Episode: SEGD: https://segd.org/ SEGD Membership: https://segd.org/join/ SEGD Professional Practice Groups: https://segd.org/resources/introducing-segd-professional-practice-groups/ SEGD PPG Unveiling at 2024 AAM: https://segd.org/news/segd-unveils-professional-practice-groups-at-american-alliance-of-museums-conference/ Cybelle: cybelle@segd.org Steven: steven@availablelight.com George: Gmayer029@gmail.com Links for MtM, the Podcast: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Discover Making the Museum, the Newsletter: Like the show? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a free weekly professional development email for exhibition practitioners, museum leaders, and visitor experience professionals. Join hundreds of your peers with an ad-free quick one-minute read, three times a week. Invest in your career with a diverse, regular feed of planning and design insights, practical tips and tested strategies — including thought-provoking approaches to technology, experience design, visitors, budgeting, content, and project management, to name just a few. (And a bonus: newsletter subscribers are the first to hear about new episodes of this podcast.) Subscribe here (and unsubscribe at any time): https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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1 The Client Side of Major Projects, with Amy Weisser 1:06:21
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“The client’s role is not to solve the problem — it’s to state the problem.” What’s the client’s perspective in major cultural projects? What are “client user groups?” What’s the difference between advocating for the client, and advocating for the project? How do you “inhabit your project?” How might a single gender-inclusive restroom project change an entire institution? Should every project have a “super contingency” in the budget? Amy Weisser (Deputy Director for Strategic Planning and Projects at Storm King Art Center) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “The Client Side of Major Projects.” Along the way: P.P.E., trusting the hiring decisions, and a 2,000-year-old Roman theory that still works today. Talking Points: 1. The Three-Legged Stool: Vision, Schedule, Budget 2. Client Advocate, Project Advocate, User Advocate 3. Museum Building Projects are Linear, Not Cyclical 4. All Projects are Transformational 5. Project Phases: Watercolors to Hard Hats 6. Disasters DO Happen 7. Build Your Values How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Amy Weisser is Deputy Director, Strategic Planning and Projects at Storm King Art Center, where she incubates projects focused on strategic growth. Weisser has spent 30 years supporting cultural institutions undergoing profound development. Prior to Storm King, Weisser led exhibition development for the National September 11 Memorial Museum from 2005 to 2017 and helped open the contemporary art museum Dia:Beacon and the American Museum of Natural History’s Rose Center for Earth and Space. She has taught Museum Studies at New York University. Weisser holds a doctorate in Art History from Yale University. She is a co-author of Martin Puryear: Lookout (GRM/SKAC, 2024). About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Links for This Episode: Amy’s Email: as.weisser@stormkingartcenter.org Amy’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amysweisser/ Storm King: www.stormking.org Storm King’s Capital Project: https://stormking.org/capitalproject/ Building Museums Symposium, a project of the Mid-Atlantic Association of Museums: https://midatlanticmuseums.org/building-museums/ Links for MtM: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Like the show? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email, three times a week, on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. (And the best way to find out first about new episodes of the podcast.) Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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Can you get big press with a small budget? (Hint: Yes.) For museums, small firms, and independent consultants, this episode is packed with literally dozens of ideas from a master of scrappy PR. What is the #1 tip about PR, if you forgot all the others? How do you get a journalist’s attention? How do you get in the news without something new? Who should be your spokesperson? Is press actually about the topic — or is it about just being in the news? Once you get an article, what do you do with it? Do people still write press releases? How important is PR, anyway? (Hint: Very.) Sarah Maiellano (Founder, Broad Street Communications) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Scrappy PR for Museums”. Along the way: newsjacking, working the niches, and the magic of a holiday gift guide. Talking Points: 1. Eight Story Ideas: Beyond the Exhibition a. New = News b. Humans are Interested in Other Humans c. Party Time d. Shopping! e. Localize It, Personalize It f. Education g. Newsjacking h. Money Money 2. Doing the Prep Work: Photos, Video, Writing, Talking Points, Spokesperson 3. Building a Media List 4. Maximizing Media Coverage How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Equal parts creative and entrepreneurial, Broad Street Communications founder Sarah Maiellano’s superpower is discovering and telling stories. Sarah is an award-winning Philadelphia-based Public Relations professional and independent journalist. She serves Philadelphia area arts and culture institutions, with a focus on museums, and regional non-profits. Over the last 15 years, she has generated more than 3,000 stories about her clients. She’s a past board member of the Philadelphia Public Relations Association and is a frequent speaker at events and conferences, including the American Alliance of Museums 2024 annual meeting. As a freelance journalist, Sarah covers travel and food for regional and national outlets, including USA Today and Philadelphia Magazine. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: sarah@broadstreetcomms.com www.broadstreetcomms.com www.sarahmaiellano.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahmaiellano/ https://www.instagram.com/sarahmaiellano/ MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Liked the show? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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1 Six Keys for Unlocking Your Most Playful, Creative Work, with Jonathan Goldstein and Kyle Talbott 49:59
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Have we lost a sense of playfulness in our work … and could we get it back? In museums for children, why does “analog usually beat digital?” What’s a “climbing structure”? What are design metaphors, and why should planners beware of them? How can exhibition teams better empathize with one another’s fears and concerns? Why should a museum professional or designer “hyper-specialize”? Jonathan Goldstein and Kyle Talbott (Principals, Skyhouse Studio) join host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Six Keys for Unlocking Your Most Playful, Creative Work.” Along the way: ancient trees, vacuum tubes, and Easter eggs. Talking Points: 1. Finish Every Sketch 2. Beware of Design Metaphors 3. Design as if You’re Going to Build It 4. Demonstrate Empathy Through Disruption 5. Analog Usually Beats Digital 6. Hyper-Specialize How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bios: As a child, Jonathan Goldstein accidentally built a 2-story treehouse surrounded by a thicket of poison ivy. Never deterred by a project’s audaciousness (or the limitations of his botanical knowledge), Jonathan designs climbing structures to conjure adventure and perceived risk—the stuff of childhood memories. Prior to his architectural studies, Jonathan’s earlier career as a junior high school history teacher prepared him for what would be his quest: To awaken people’s senses and engage their innate curiosities. His specialization in climbing structure design is born from a desire to make special places for families to share uncommon, joyous experiences. Jonathan is the founder and design principal of SKYHOUSE Studio. Kyle Talbott is Design Principal at SKYHOUSE Studio. He is obsessed with designing complex three-dimensional labyrinths that challenge the mind and body. He uses cutting-edge parametric modeling software to sculpt weird, organic structures inspired by everything from a craggy mountainside to an osprey nest. Kyle sees the world as a complex, orderly whole, and his climber designs embody the harmony of natural and technological things. He is also a passionate educator who is an Associate Professor of Architecture at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee. In all his work, Kyle helps people cultivate a growth mindset and a heroic spirit through inquisitive play. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: Skyhouse https://skyhousestudio.org/ SKYHOUSE Studio is a service of the Children’s Museum of Denver at Marsico Campus Jonathan Goldstein Email: jonathan@skyhousestudio.org LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-goldstein-49856b2a Kyle Talbott Email for Kyle: kyle@skyhousestudio.org LinkedIn for Kyle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-talbott-9b17b325/ MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Liked the show? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email, three times a week, on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. (And the best way to find out first about new episodes of the podcast.) Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
How do new museums make money — really? In this episode, we lift the veil on new museum projects and money. What is “the peril of the bicycle wheel”? Is it bad to rely on “anchor funding”? How many kinds of revenue should a new museum project have? What happens if you have the wrong number? (Hint: eh, not so good.) How much money do endowments make? And what’s so magical about thirds? Amy Kaufman (Principal, Amy Kaufman Cultural Planning) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “The Money Pie Chart”. Along the way: Latin American Art curator jokes, coat-checking 200 motorcycle helmets at once, and a pharmaceutical metaphor Jonathan will never live down. Talking Points: 1. Museums have to make money 2. Introducing the pie chart 3. Pac Man, peace signs, and anacins 4. The peril of the bicycle wheel 5. What happens when you don’t diversify 6. What’s next: Living wages and climate action How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Amy Kaufman (Principal, Amy Kaufman Cultural Planning) is an institutional planner with demonstrated success in strategy, business and facilities planning, branding, and operational implementation. She has successfully worked with organizations of all types and sizes, including museums, universities, parks, botanic gardens, visitor centers and heritage sites. She collaborates with government agencies, architects, developers, foundations, and institutional leaders to integrate a variety of goals and perspectives. She plans new institutions; and assesses performance and conducts qualitative and quantitative market research for existing organizations, integrating findings into strategic, operational and visitor experience plans. Previously, Amy was Managing Director at Lord Cultural Resources and Special Project Director at the Guggenheim. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: Amy Kaufman Cultural Planning https://www.akculturalplanning.com MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Liked the show? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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1 Circus Lessons for Museum Professionals, with Jennifer Lemmer Posey 50:12
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What’s the role of wonder in experience design? What can the circus teach us to make our exhibitions better? (Spoiler alert: a lot.) Could being “with it and for it” be the secret to success for museum projects? How much technology is too much? Can we really design for all five senses? Can an exhibition be a high-wire act — literally? Jennifer Lemmer Posey (Tibbals Curator of Circus at The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to teach some inspirational “Circus Lessons for Museum Professionals”. Along the way: popcorn, a wall of clowns, and that special smell of elephants. Talking Points: 1. Build a team that is “with it and for it” 2. Engage all of the senses 3. Technology shouldn’t steal the center ring 4. Wonder is in the details 5. Create opportunities for shared experiences 6. Design a space that can be ever-changing, never-changing How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: As the Tibbals Curator of Circus at The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Jennifer Lemmer Posey oversees the interpretation and care of objects and ephemera related to the history of circus. With more than twenty years of experience, Jennifer serves as a liaison to the international circus community and facilitates academic study of circus arts. A leading scholar in American circus history, her work has been included in numerous books, catalogs, and journals. Jennifer served as editor for Bandwagon: The Journal of the Circus Historical Society and was an Advisory Scholar in Circus Arts for the Smithsonian Folklife Festival in 2017. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: About Jennifer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferlemmerposey/ https://www.instagram.com/wonderfilled_curator/ About the Ringling: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theringling https://www.instagram.com/theringling/ https://www.facebook.com/TheRingling From Point 1 - Building a team that is “with it and for it”: Behind the scenes of the Howard Bros. Circus model - museum staff program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxntny_wC_M Wagon Wheel installation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgF8__NDnJQ From Point 2 - Engage all of the senses: The Ringling https://www.ringling.org Wonder Symposium https://www.ringling.org/wonder-symposium/ From Point 3 - Technology shouldn’t steal the center ring: The Greatest Show On Earth Gallery at The Ringling https://www.ringling.org/event/the-greatest-show-on-earth-gallery/ Manage This Podcast – My Project is a Three Ring Circus https://www.velociteach.com/manage-this-podcast/my-project-is-a-three-ring-circus/ From Point 4 - Wonder is in the details: Howard Tibbals & the Howard Bros. Circus Model https://www.pbs.org/video/wedu-arts-plus-311-howard-tibbals/ Smithsonian Folklife Festival – Wonder Is by Albert Tong and Hae-Yang Chang https://festival.si.edu/blog/wonder-is-circus-arts Circus Museum Collection Highlights https://emuseum.ringling.org/collections/5163/circus-highlights/objects From Point 5 - Create opportunities for shared experiences: The Ringling’s Collecting Recollections series features fascinating people with fascinating stories to tell about their lives, the Museum, the Circus, Sarasota – and more. I recommend Dolly Jacobs, Kenneth Feld, Jackie LeClaire, Peggy Williams https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLctJhityCmSnHNtgDWP6uWK3Nf0l7Pkr1 From Point 6 - Design a space that can be ever-changing, never-changing: The Circus Museum at The Ringling https://www.ringling.org/visit/venues/circus-museum/ To learn more about circuses: Federation Mondiale du Cirque http://www.circusfederation.org Circus Historical Society https://circushistory.org Circus Sarasota https://circusarts.org Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey https://www.ringling.com MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Liked the show? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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Do museum stores actually make any money? What are they really for? Can a store act like an exhibition? What does “cap rate” mean? How big should a museum store be? What percentage of visitors go into one, and how many of them buy something? Why should you get an expert to design your store, and what happens when you don’t? David Franke (museum store architect) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discover what’s “Beyond ‘Exit Through the Gift Shop’”. Along the way: rubber snakes, oysters, onions, and Mona Lisa ashtrays. Talking Points: 1. An oyster living in a birds nest. 2. New store in a new museum or a renovation to an existing one. Where, oh where to begin? 3. The peeling of the onion. 4. Getting the balance just right. 5. Don’t forget that long range strategy to ensure you don’t fall victim to your own success. How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: With over four decades of experience as an architect, David Franke’s focus is now exclusively on store design and planning for museum and cultural institutions around the world. Museum stores include two at the King Abdulaziz Center for World Culture in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia; the Fort Worth Museum of Science and History and the Museum of the American Cowgirl, the US Botanic Garden in DC, Frank Lloyd Wright’s Taliesin West in Arizona; the Grounds for Sculpture in New Jersey, three retail projects for the State Preservation Board in Austin, and the Ravinia Festival in Highland Park Illinois. David has also served on councils and boards for the Mercer Museum and Fonthill Castle, Historical Society of Pennsylvania’s Building and Facilities Committee and the Pennsylvania Ballet. He is a participant in the International Museum Construction Congress, the California Association of Museums, Texas Association of Museums, American Association of Museums and Mid-Atlantic Association of Museums, where has co-presented sessions on the design of museum retail. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: David's website: https://www.davidfrankeconsulting.com David by Email: DavidFrankeRA@Gmail.com David by Phone: +1 (215) 498-4384 David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-franke-ra-21a4539/ MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Liked the show? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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1 An Economic Planner's Advice to Museums, with James Stevens 49:00
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Why is economic planning so vital to any new museum project? What happens if you don’t do it? What is “dark tourism”? Why do economists think about audiences? Can a museum have “ROI”? Which is more important, a profitable museum event, or one that advances a museum’s mission? What can economics teach us about how to make our projects better? James Stevens, AICP (Vice President, ConsultEcon, Inc.) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “An Economic Planner’s Advice to Museums”. Along the way: double-edged swords, vocal impersonations, and the Museum of Forks. Talking Points: 1. Know your audiences (plural). 2. Be both curious and skeptical. 3. Formulate your “mission test”. 4. You’ll be able to take time, but not too much time. 5. Establish strict budgets and fundraising goals. Then change them. How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: James Stevens, AICP (Vice President, ConsultEcon, Inc.) is a business planner and management consultant with over 20 years of experience with development planning and analyzing the economics of new museums, major expansions and renovations, and new exhibition programs, among other types of visitor attractions and tourism destinations. He has completed hundreds of studies nationally and internationally for building projects large and small. He contributed a chapter to Sustainable Revenue for Museums: A Guide and is a frequent speaker at industry conferences. He has a bachelor’s degree in history from Cornell University and a master’s degree in city planning from MIT. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: James via Email jstevens@consultecon.com James on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/philly-james-stevens/ ConsultEcon https://www.consultecon.com/ Sustainable Revenue for Museums: A Guide https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781538112984/Sustainable-Revenue-for-Museums-A-Guide MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Like the show? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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1 A Guitar That Teaches Civil Rights, with Michele Y. Smith 44:04
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What is the “humanities gap” — and why is it a huge opportunity for museums? Why can’t everybody be a philanthropist for the day? What does “cultural literacy” mean, and how can it unlock new approaches to the collections we put on display? Why could a shortfall in humanities funding suggest new ways for museums to be relevant? Why shouldn’t a museum buy products and services from its own community? Michele Y. Smith (CEO, Museum of Popular Culture) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to talk about “A Guitar That Teaches Civil Rights”. Along the way: preserving 80,000 artifacts, how revenue drives mission, and why George Clooney’s Batman costume is missing its cape. Talking Points: 1. MoPOP: a museum designed like a guitar melting. 2. Schools have a humanities gap — museums can help. 3. How “cultural literacy” makes subjects relevant. 4. How a guitar can teach civil rights… 5. … and WALL-E can teach climate change. 6. Achieving financial independence from the founder. 7. Why not open the annual gala to the community? 8. Why not do F&B with local and BIPOC vendors? How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Michele Y. Smith is the CEO of the Museum of Pop Culture (MoPOP), known for her mission-focused leadership in the nonprofit sector, emphasizing business development, operations, and finance. Her approach prioritizes diversity, equity, inclusion, accessibility, and mentoring, advocating for philanthropy's democratization through pop culture. Previously, as Chief Business & Financial Officer at Woodland Park Zoo, Smith led the institution through the COVID-19 pandemic, achieving significant growth in revenue, events, and guest services with her dynamic strategy. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: Michele Y. Smith on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/micheleysmith/ Museum of Popular Culture (MoPOP) Online: https://www.mopop.org/ MoPOP’s “Massive: The Power of Pop Culture”: https://www.mopop.org/exhibitions-plus-events/exhibitions/massive-the-power-of-pop-culture/ MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com MtM, the Newsletter: Like the episode? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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1 The Questions You Have to Ask Before the Project, with Carolynne Harris (Remastered April 2024) 34:54
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We might think a design concept is the first step — but it’s not. What do you need to ask yourself, before you even start? What does your community want from your new museum, and how can you find out? What happens when you have funding for 10 staff, but you design a museum that will take 25 staff to operate? What’s more important, the cost of creating the museum, or the later costs of operating it? What’s “noblesse oblige”? What’s a “civic entrepreneur”? Carolynne Harris (Museum Planner, Carolynne Harris Consulting) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “The Questions You Have to Ask Before the Project”. Along the way: team sports, a right turn at Albuquerque, and training to do five things at once. Talking Points: 1. A master plan comes before design, but what comes before a master plan? 2. Have you got your stakeholders aligned? 3. Do you know what your community wants? 4. Who are your financial supporters — both immediate and ongoing? 5. How many staff can you support, and how will they get paid? 6. Should there even be a museum? How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Carolynne Harris, Founder and Principal of Carolynne Harris Consulting, has over 30 years of experience in the museum field, including over 10 years of senior-level experience at the Smithsonian Institution and Fernbank Museum of Natural History. Carolynne’s nonprofit consulting business specializes in developing emerging museums, renovations, and expansions from early visioning through implementation, and strategic planning for non-profits. Carolynne has been published in Curator, served on the board of the Pennsylvania Museum Association and the Denver Commission for Cultural Affairs, and is currently the Board Secretary of the National Association of Museum Exhibitions (NAME). Carolynne has an MA in Interdisciplinary Liberal Arts from Emory University and a BA in Anthropology from The University of Virginia. (Carolynne is also a member of Praxis Museum Projects Group, a "network of professionals, each of whom brings an expertise to the process of creating exhibitions and cultural experiences in collaboration with exhibit designers, architects, and museums". Members of the Praxis group are a special focus of the first episodes of this podcast.) About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: Carolynne by email: carolynneharris@gmail.com Carolynne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolynne-harris-1a52a9/ Carolynne Harris Consulting on the web: https://www.carolynneharris.com/ https://www.praxisexhibits.com/ MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Like the episode? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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Why is “70/50” the gold standard? Should it be? Who decided? Does every gallery really need to be 70 degrees, plus/minus two? Does every storage space really need to be 50% humidity, plus/minus five? Is that a reasonable goal for most museums? At what cost? What’s the difference between “AA” climate control, and just “A”? How much energy could we all save, just by switching down one grade? Are artifact loan agreement climate requirements consistent, or is there room for improvement? Roger Chang (Principal, Buro Happold) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Rethinking Climate Control in Museums”. Along the way: Jackie Kennedy, root cellars, and a wooly mammoth. Talking Points: 1. Why 70 degrees? 2. Does it have to be the premier system? 3. Reconsider those loan agreements. 4. Knitting at the Renwick 5. Don’t fight the building. 6. “Fun Puzzles” 7. Look in all directions. 8. K.I.S.S.: Keep It Simple Sustainably. How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bio: Roger Chang has over two decades of building engineering experience and currently leads the MEP team within Buro Happold’s Washington DC office. He has significant experience with complex cultural, education, civic, and government projects, including two AIA Committee on the Environment (COTE) Top 10 winners. Roger regularly presents at architecture and engineering schools on integrated design, including at the Catholic University of America School of Architecture. He has presented and authored papers on high-performance design, including at Greenbuild, AIA, ASHRAE, and AAM conferences. He has a special interest in the intersection of façade engineering and building systems. He is a strong proponent of adaptive reuse and modernization projects and has worked on a significant number of buildings on the National Register of Historic Places. He was recognized in 2020 as an ASHRAE Fellow. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: Roger by email: Roger.Chang@burohappold.com Roger on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/changkey Buro Happold on the web: https://www.burohappold.com MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Like the episode? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
What if chaos in cultural projects is something to embrace, not fear? Can chaos theory give us new insights about how to manage complex work? Are we advocates for the owner of a project, or for the project itself? What are the three things upon which the success or failure of a project depends? Sometimes, is it better to let a few things change, rather than fight those changes for even longer? Museum staff are rarely experts in managing building projects or large exhibition productions. Why would we expect them to be? And how can we help? Jon Maass (Director, MAASS) joins host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss "Embracing Chaos". Along the way: high-performance buildings, that word “program” again, and whether projects need overseers, therapists or cheerleaders. Talking Points: 1. Chaos theory studies things that are impossible to predict. 2. Museum projects are chaotic and that’s a good thing. 3. A project is a cultural exercise, with its own diverse culture. 4. Museum owners are not built to build buildings. 5. Teams who excel at museum projects are rare. 6. Change during the process is inevitable, so embrace it. How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bios: Jon Maass is an architect, builder and maker of things. His history of designing and building structures informs and supports his work as an owner’s representative, helping numerous cultural institutions realize new mission-driven projects and restore important cultural touchstones. His work is process driven, emphasizing proper planning at the project’s outset and relentless pursuit of its stated goals. Jon received degrees from the University of Michigan and the Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art in New York, where he was amongst the first recipients of the Menschel Fellowship. His creative history began in the theater where we he designed and built stage sets for numerous Off- Broadway and Off-off Broadway shows throughout New York’s East Village. He continues to teach at Cooper Union, helping young architects understand how to navigate the design and construction process toward making exceptional buildings. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: MAASS on the web: https://www.maass.works MAASS by phone: +1-917-578-0190 Jon Maass by email: jm@maass.works MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Like the episode? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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1 The New Louis Armstrong Center, with Regina Bain and Sara Caples 46:21
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What’s the secret to success, when a project lasts years longer than planned? What keeps us going when our work takes more time? How does the subject matter of a project relate to the form of a project? Why should we be thinking equally about the budget for what happens after a project opens? What is the “architecture of delight”? Why do “reverberations matter”? Which is more important: patience, or pushing? (Hint: it’s a trick question.) And most importantly, why should everybody visit the house of Louis and Lucille Armstrong in Queens, New York? Regina Bain (Executive Director, Louis Armstrong House Museum & Archives) and Sara Caples, (Principal and co-founder of Caples Jefferson Architects) join host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss the new Louis Armstrong Center project that all three worked on. Along the way: why everyone should take acting classes, and what it’s like being inside a cello. Chapters: 1. Louis and Lucille’s House 2. We’ll Open in Three Months 3. A Golden Curve 4. Serious Acting 5. The Reverberations Matter 6. Patience and Pushing 7. Letter to Your Earlier Self 8. Budget Beyond Opening How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bios: Regina Bain is an artist and educator serving as the Executive Director of the Louis Armstrong House Museum. In the midst of the reverberations of slavery, Jim Crow laws and the great migration, Armstrong became America’s first Black popular music icon. The Museum preserves his home and archives and develops programs grounded in the values of artistic excellence, education and community. This year, Ms. Bain recently opened the new 14,000 sq. foot Armstrong Center housing a multimedia exhibit curated by Jason Moran, a 75-seat performance space, and the 60,000-piece Armstrong Archives — the largest archives of any jazz musician and one of the largest of any Black musician. Previous to her appointment at LAHM, Ms. Bain served as Associate Vice President of the Posse Foundation — a national leadership and college access program. Bain’s efforts helped to increase Posse’s national student graduation rates for four consecutive years. Bain is currently the co-chair of Culture @3’s anti-racism subcommittee and recently served on the Yale Board of Governors. Sara Caples AIA is Principal and co-founder of Caples Jefferson Architects PC. Sara's early experience was focused on the design and direction of large projects, especially in the public realm. Since founding the firm in 1987 with Everardo Jefferson, she has remained committed to designing cultural, educational, and community centers for neighborhoods underserved by the design professions. Sara is a frequent lecturer at schools, community, and professional organizations. She has served as a visiting professor at Syracuse, CCNY, University of Miami, and Yale. Sara and her partner Everardo are currently William B. and Charlotte Shepherd Davenport Professors at Yale School of Architecture, and Everardo and Sara worked together on the design of the Louis Armstrong project. CJA has been honored with AIANY’s President’s Award and awarded the AIA’s New York State Firm of the Year. With work widely published from Architect Magazine and Domus to The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. Their most recent book is Many Voices: Architecture for Social Equity . About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: Louis Armstrong House Museum: https://www.louisarmstronghouse.org/ Louis Armstrong (Artist) on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/19eLuQmk9aCobbVDHc6eek?si=lYvi-xRYRXyPTNj7TpzuqA Images of Louis Armstrong Center Building: https://www.capjeff.com/louis-armstrong-center-new Images of Louis Armstrong Center Exhibitions: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com/projects/new-project-the-louis-armstrong-center-2/ Regina on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginabain/ Sara on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saracaples/ Caples Jefferson Architects: https://www.capjeff.com C&G Partners (Jonathan’s Firm, Exhibition Designers): https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Potion Design (Technology Design for Interactive Table): https://www.potiondesign.com/ Art Guild (Exhibition Fabricators): https://www.artguildinc.com/ MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Like the episode? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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1 Flourishing in Museums (New Book), with Dr. Kiersten F. Latham and Professor Brenda Cowan 55:26
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What is a “growth mindset” — and why is it more important than ever for our industry? What happens when we combine museology with the fast-growing field of positive psychology? How do exhibition teams get through projects with tough subject matter? Why should we always “put our own oxygen mask on first”? What’s the opposite of love (hint: not hate)? What’s contemplative science? How can we learn from the latest news about the Rubin Museum? Do we sometimes all take ourselves … too seriously? Dr. Kiersten F. Latham (President & CEO, Sauder Village) and Professor Brenda Cowan (Graduate Exhibition & Experience Design, SUNY Fashion Institute of Technology), join host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss the new book they’ve edited: “Flourishing in Museums”. Along the way: yogic theory, growing towards the sun, and even a few museum dad jokes. Talking Points: 1. Flourishing starts with intention, and means living and working with an abundance perspective . 2. Healthy museums have a growth mindset internally and externally : with staff, visitors, communities, and the profession. 3. Museum people must do self-care , and also offer care and support to staff, colleagues, communities, and the system itself. 4. To flourish we must go bold with change : address what’s uncomfortable, deconstruct dysfunctional systems, and even redefine what a museum is. 5. Flourishing takes many forms for the book’s authors, who address war, sexual abuse, discrimination, and regret — as well as fun, playfulness and magic. 6. Positive museology is a fluid and developing project that aims to change how museums function and the way they are seen in society. How to Listen: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G Everywhere https://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/ Guest Bios: Dr. Kiersten F. Latham is President & CEO of Sauder Village, a living history museum complex in Ohio, USA. She has worked in museums for over 35 years. Prior to the Village, her professional journey spanned many kinds of museums and positions within them. She has led museum studies programs at Michigan State University and Kent State University, founded the experimental MuseLab, and has taught all aspects of museum studies. Dr. Latham has conducted research on the meaning of museum objects, conceptual foundations of museums as document systems, numinous experiences in museums, user perceptions of ‘the real thing,’ and positive museology. Brenda Cowan is a Professor of Graduate Exhibition & Experience Design at SUNY/Fashion Institute of Technology in New York where she teaches exhibition development and evaluation; object and museum studies; research and audience studies. Her background includes work for museums and design firms in the roles of interpreter, exhibition developer, education director, evaluator, and project manager. She is the co-editor of the recently published Flourishing in Museums: Towards a Positive Museology , as well as Museum Objects, Health and Healing both published by Routledge Taylor & Francis. Brenda is a Fulbright Scholar in the disciplines of museums, objects and mental health. Relatedly, her theory of Psychotherapeutic Object Dynamics ( www.psychoherapeuticobjectdynamics.com ) has been presented at conferences and institutes internationally and published with the National Association for Museum Exhibition and the Society for Experiential Graphic Design. She is currently co-host of a podcast titled Matters of Experience . About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: Book Publisher: https://routledge.pub/Flourishing-in-Museums Book Email: flourishingmuseums@yahoo.com Book Website (in progress): www.flourishingmuseums.com Kiersten on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/k-f-latham-298a35189/ Brenda on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brenda-cowan-01bb94140/ Brenda’s FIT Graduate Exhibition & Experience Design Program on Instagram: @fitgradexd MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger alger@cgpartnersllc.com https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Newsletter: Like the episode? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com…
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