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"Your psychological immune system is trying to keep you safe; is looking and scanning for threats, and when it finds a threat, it doesn't mobilize T-cells; it doesn't mobilize biology, it mobilizes your action. Let's say, my parents fought a lot; it got intense sometimes. As a kid I realized conflict is bad, and I just don't want to do conflict.
''If conflict happens, I can crack a joke. I can roll over, I can be submissive, I can run away. Now I'm starting to build this paradigm similar to the immune system; whenever a conflict happens, I can do XYZ, but I'm not allowed to do ABC."
(12:50) Where do emotions come from? Years ago Onno was taught a helpful, simplified framework for how the way we interact with and perceive the world influences our emotional state (and from there, how we react/respond to the world). Getting a handle on how we're creating our own emotions is more helpful than being at the whim of others, or the environment. As long as you're not deathly afraid of snakes 🐍 you'll enjoy this part of the conversation.
(18:20) Emotions are contagious. And guess whose emotions are MOST contagious? You guessed it - the Leader's. This is why it's so important
(22:35) We all have a physical immune system, which gets tailored and learns and adapts to our life circumstances. It's a helpful analogy (by Kegan and Lahey) to think we also have a "Psychological" Immune System getting equally tailored depending on life experiences. Once in place, it allows and disallows certain behaviors. Which is great. . . unless your role requires you to step into some previously "off limits" behaviors.
(31:20) Host, Nina Sunday, shares a formative experience of her own.
(33:20) Practical next steps. Onno shares one idea for a simple next step you can take to get more clear on how your immune system is acting up, and how you can become more of the leader in your life; more conscious, more effective less reactive.
Connect with Onno Koelman
Find out more about a workshop in November 2023: ''Paradigm Shift'', led by Onno Koelman and Dan Silberberg.
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Edited by Zane Woollett
Work Cited: Immunity to Change: How to Overcome It and Unlock the Potential in Yourself and Your Organization (Leadership for the Common Good), by Robert Kegan and Lisa Laskow Lahey
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