When vibe coding goes viral (Interview)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

Chris Anderson joins the show. You may recognize Chris from the early days of CouchDB and Couchbase. Back when the world was just waking up to NoSQL, Chris was at the center of it all, shaping how developers think about data distribution and offline-first architecture.

These days, Chris is working on Vibes.diy and Fireproof — tools that make one-shot app generation not only possible, but shareable within minutes. We talk about the origins of CouchDB, the fork that led to Membase and Couchbase, and how that long journey led to this new paradigm: Vibe Coding.

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Featuring:

• Chris Anderson – GitHub, X
• Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• Vibes DIY - AI App Builder
• There U Glow – Technical Knowledge Nook
• 2 Vibe Coders inside you - YouTube

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

챕터

1. This week on The Changelog (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Retool (00:00:57)

https://retool.com/agents

3. Start the show! (00:03:00)

4. It started on IRC (00:04:49)

5. From there to Vibes.diy (00:09:31)

6. Cryptographic data provenance (00:11:47)

7. Building Fireproof (00:14:35)

8. Sponsor: Depot (00:21:34)

https://depot.dev

9. Is the platform the web? (00:23:44)

10. Adam is Vibing (00:27:39)

11. Claude 4 is good enough now (00:30:48)

12. Render ATL viral and beyond (00:38:14)

13. Multiplayer and versioning (00:39:36)

14. Building on Cloudflare (00:42:18)

15. How do you make money? (00:46:49)

16. Vibes.diy next steps? (00:51:35)

17. Thawarting scams (00:52:37)

18. Vibing to viral (00:55:02)

19. This could be the Kubrick (00:57:37)

20. LLM moving targets (01:00:16)

21. We're gonna vibe some stuff (01:06:34)

22. Get in touch (01:07:48)

23. Closing thoughts (01:08:49)