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S3 E3 - The Listening Leader
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The Whole Enchilada Podcast welcomes guest Jack Burgess of The Difference Consulting. Jack consults with organizations of all sizes to help them create and plan for the futures of their companies. With his artistic background, Jack sees leadership from an entirely new perspective.
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As always, the team starts out with a Mexican dish, this time breakfast burritos. Gil is perplexed by the size of these savory delights and poses a philosophical question: to binge or to graze
The burritos are filled with all kinds of surprises, including ham, bacon, sausage and carne asada, which Chris lovingly calls a Mexican Smorgasbord. Is ham an innovative move? A lateral move? These are the kinds of public service questions the team tackles.
Once they have finished their larger-than-life burritos, Jack talks about how he started out drawing on walls (so to speak) and how he has honed his craft to cater to three different types of learners.
Jack goes on to talk about the disadvantages of starting with a blank canvas and Mitch likens the conversation to The Whole Enchilada Season 3, Episode 1 where Joshua Johnson talks about low-definition paintings.
Jack continues talking about two types of starting points and gives three examples that show how he helps companies determine their problem and create the strategy to fix it.
The team has a laugh when grey-haired Jack admits to being “the face of the patriarchy” and the importance of building trust with those you’re working with. Show up, work hard, listen, and adjust. Work, emotional, and rational spaces are all paramount to success. Mitch agrees that silence and listening are not the same thing.
Jack and Mitch toss the idea of leadership back and forth as Mitch talks about leading from three different positions…and the benefit of one over the other two.
Jack says that the best leadership attributes have two important components and that involving employees in decisions creates ownership of the problem and solution.
The team moves to talking about pivoting and looking at a linear path of decision-making from a different perspective and the final conversation revolves around how it’s not necessary to always be the expert…but how vision, power, structure, and resources are all places to consider when creating a plan.
Links:
The Difference Consulting
https://thedifferenceconsulting.com/
Jack Burgess
http://www.jackburgessstudio.com/
Joshua Johnson Episode
https://www.thewholeenchiladapodcast.com/podcast/episode/f749208d/s3-e1-leading-with-inspiration
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