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S04 E05: Melisa Stivaletti, the Queen of OSINT, on Elevating OSINT with AI, Private-Public Synergy, and More
Manage episode 485276288 series 3491074
Daniel Clemens from ShadowDragon, LLC, Daniel Clemens from ShadowDragon, and LLC에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Daniel Clemens from ShadowDragon, LLC, Daniel Clemens from ShadowDragon, and LLC 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
Guest introduction & background
- Melisa describes how the 2010–11 Arab Spring revealed the power of social-media data while she was a Department of the Army civilian in Afghanistan.
- Since then she has worked across academia, federal agencies, and the private sector to professionalize open-source intelligence, currently serving as OSINT Director at Guidehouse and chair of AFCEA’s Emerging Professionals in the Intelligence Community (EPIC) committee.
Why OSINT matters now
- Every modern investigation—military, law-enforcement, or corporate—relies on publicly available information (PAI); skipping it “short-changes” the mission.
- Recent unclassified U.S. DoD, ODNI, and Army OSINT strategies publicly signal a whole-of-government commitment and an invitation for industry partnership.
- Congress has underscored this shift with the first House Subcommittee dedicated to open-source intelligence.
Public-private synergy & funding gaps
- Dual-use commercial tools and venture-backed research and development give the U.S. an edge, but the Intelligence Community still allocates less than 1% of its budget to OSINT despite the discipline providing roughly 30% of material in the President’s Daily Brief.
- Cloud storage, advanced data sets, and continuous tool development make OSINT “cheap relative to satellites” but far from free; chronic underfunding risks hollowing out capabilities.
Generative AI opportunities & cautions
- Large language models accelerate sense-making (summarization, triage, translation) amid an ever-expanding data ocean.
- Analysts must demand rigorous sourcing and bias evaluation—“every AI-generated sentence needs a footnote”—and should favor secure, controlled models over public chatbots.
- The real value lies in “a collector who knows how to use AI,” not in AI replacing human tradecraft.
Operational vs. strategic OSINT
- Tactical users (SOF, JSOC) need rapid, geotagged, mission-ready insights; strategic analysts focus on long-term trends, indications & warnings, and partner sharing.
- Both require advanced skills—data science, cyber forensics, provenance verification—not just “having an internet connection.”
Professionalization & future skills
- Formal tradecraft standards, dedicated career paths, and prompt-engineering expertise are emerging to match HUMINT, SIGINT, and GEOINT.
- Melisa urges the next generation of intel professionals to embrace OSINT’s complexity, continuous learning curve, and growing strategic impact.
Persistent misconceptions debunked
- Myth #1: OSINT is “free.” Reality: tooling, storage, and talent are expensive and scaling.
- Myth #2: OSINT is inferior to classified sources. Reality: it often provides the first, fastest, and sometimes only vantage point—and stands on equal analytic rigor.
Special Guest: Melisa Stivaletti .
15 에피소드
S04 E05: Melisa Stivaletti, the Queen of OSINT, on Elevating OSINT with AI, Private-Public Synergy, and More
OSINT with ShadowDragon & Digital Tools For Modern Investigations
Manage episode 485276288 series 3491074
Daniel Clemens from ShadowDragon, LLC, Daniel Clemens from ShadowDragon, and LLC에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Daniel Clemens from ShadowDragon, LLC, Daniel Clemens from ShadowDragon, and LLC 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
Guest introduction & background
- Melisa describes how the 2010–11 Arab Spring revealed the power of social-media data while she was a Department of the Army civilian in Afghanistan.
- Since then she has worked across academia, federal agencies, and the private sector to professionalize open-source intelligence, currently serving as OSINT Director at Guidehouse and chair of AFCEA’s Emerging Professionals in the Intelligence Community (EPIC) committee.
Why OSINT matters now
- Every modern investigation—military, law-enforcement, or corporate—relies on publicly available information (PAI); skipping it “short-changes” the mission.
- Recent unclassified U.S. DoD, ODNI, and Army OSINT strategies publicly signal a whole-of-government commitment and an invitation for industry partnership.
- Congress has underscored this shift with the first House Subcommittee dedicated to open-source intelligence.
Public-private synergy & funding gaps
- Dual-use commercial tools and venture-backed research and development give the U.S. an edge, but the Intelligence Community still allocates less than 1% of its budget to OSINT despite the discipline providing roughly 30% of material in the President’s Daily Brief.
- Cloud storage, advanced data sets, and continuous tool development make OSINT “cheap relative to satellites” but far from free; chronic underfunding risks hollowing out capabilities.
Generative AI opportunities & cautions
- Large language models accelerate sense-making (summarization, triage, translation) amid an ever-expanding data ocean.
- Analysts must demand rigorous sourcing and bias evaluation—“every AI-generated sentence needs a footnote”—and should favor secure, controlled models over public chatbots.
- The real value lies in “a collector who knows how to use AI,” not in AI replacing human tradecraft.
Operational vs. strategic OSINT
- Tactical users (SOF, JSOC) need rapid, geotagged, mission-ready insights; strategic analysts focus on long-term trends, indications & warnings, and partner sharing.
- Both require advanced skills—data science, cyber forensics, provenance verification—not just “having an internet connection.”
Professionalization & future skills
- Formal tradecraft standards, dedicated career paths, and prompt-engineering expertise are emerging to match HUMINT, SIGINT, and GEOINT.
- Melisa urges the next generation of intel professionals to embrace OSINT’s complexity, continuous learning curve, and growing strategic impact.
Persistent misconceptions debunked
- Myth #1: OSINT is “free.” Reality: tooling, storage, and talent are expensive and scaling.
- Myth #2: OSINT is inferior to classified sources. Reality: it often provides the first, fastest, and sometimes only vantage point—and stands on equal analytic rigor.
Special Guest: Melisa Stivaletti .
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