The Mid Three: Wale, Big Sean, and J. Cole Distinguishing Between Good, Great, and Mid-Tier Rappers

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Summary
In this podcast episode, the hosts discuss J. Cole's new album and his controversial apology. They also touch on the importance of being battle-tested in the rap industry and compare J. Cole to other rappers who have engaged in beefs. The hosts have mixed opinions on J. Cole's album, with one giving it a 6 out of 10 and the other finding it disappointing. They also debate whether J. Cole's apology was necessary and question his decision to apologize publicly at his own festival. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the mid three rappers: Wale, Big Sean, and J. Cole. The conversation revolves around the discussion of various rappers and their legacies. The participants debate the status of J. Cole, Meek Mill, Big Sean, and Lil Yachty, with differing opinions on their impact and relevance. They also touch on the importance of commercial success and the ability to appeal to both male and female audiences. The conversation shifts to the influence of regional popularity and the distinction between being good, great, or mid-tier. The participants mention artists like Lil Durk, Nipsey Hussle, and V's from Detroit as examples. They also discuss the appropriateness of certain behaviors and the role of role models in the music industry. The conversation covers various topics including the popularity of different rappers, the anticipation for new music releases, and a discussion about professional wrestling. The hosts express their opinions on Meek Mill, J. Cole, and Drake, and debate the importance of diss tracks in rap beefs. They also share their thoughts on WrestleMania and the different wrestling leagues.
Takeaways
Opinions on J. Cole's album are mixed, with one host giving it a 6 out of 10 and the other finding it disappointing.
The hosts debate the necessity of J. Cole's public apology and question his decision to apologize at his own festival.
Being battle-tested is seen as an important aspect of being considered one of the greatest rappers.
The hosts compare J. Cole to other rappers who have engaged in beefs and discuss the impact of beefs on their careers.
The mid three rappers, Wale, Big Sean, and J. Cole, are discussed and debated. Opinions on the impact and relevance of various rappers differ among participants
Commercial success and the ability to appeal to both male and female audiences are important factors in determining a rapper's legacy
Regional popularity can influence an artist's perception and success
There is a distinction between being good, great, or mid-tier in terms of talent and impact
The appropriateness of certain behaviors and the role of role models in the music industry are topics of discussion The hosts have different opinions on Meek Mill, J. Cole, and Drake.
They discuss the significance of diss tracks in rap beefs.
The conversation touches on the popularity of different rappers and the anticipation for new music releases.
They share their thoughts on WrestleMania and the different wrestling leagues.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Reunion
17:51 J. Cole's Album: Mixed Opinions and Disappointment
27:14 The Importance of Being Battle-Tested in Rap
35:39 The Mid Three: Wale, Big Sean, and J. Cole
46:39 The Importance of Commercial Success and Appeal to Different Audiences
55:36 The Appropriateness of Behaviors and the Role of Role Models in the Music Industry
01:04:43 The Significance of Diss Tracks in Rap Beef
01:14:55 Discussion about WrestleMania and Wrestling Leagues