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“7 Vicious Vices of Rationalists” by Ben Pace
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LessWrong에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 LessWrong 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
Vices aren't behaviors that one should never do. Rather, vices are behaviors that are fine and pleasurable to do in moderation, but tempting to do in excess. The classical vices are actually good in part. Moderate amounts of gluttony is just eating food, which is important. Moderate amounts of envy is just "wanting things", which is a motivator of much of our economy.
What are some things that rationalists are wont to do, and often to good effect, but that can grow pathological?
1. Contrarianism
There are a whole host of unaligned forces producing the arguments and positions you hear. People often hold beliefs out of convenience, defend positions that they are aligned with politically, or just don't give much thought to what they're saying one way or another.
A good way find out whether people have any good reasons for their positions, is to take a contrarian stance, and to seek the best arguments for unpopular positions. This also helps you to explore arguments around positions that others aren't investigating.
However, this can be taken to the extreme.
While it is hard to know for sure what is going on inside others' heads, I know [...]
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Outline:
(00:40) 1. Contrarianism
(01:57) 2. Pedantry
(03:35) 3. Elaboration
(03:52) 4. Social Obliviousness
(05:21) 5. Assuming Good Faith
(06:33) 6. Undercutting Social Momentum
(08:00) 7. Digging Your Heels In
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First published:
November 16th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/r6xSmbJRK9KKLcXTM/7-vicious-vices-of-rationalists-1
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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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continue reading
What are some things that rationalists are wont to do, and often to good effect, but that can grow pathological?
1. Contrarianism
There are a whole host of unaligned forces producing the arguments and positions you hear. People often hold beliefs out of convenience, defend positions that they are aligned with politically, or just don't give much thought to what they're saying one way or another.
A good way find out whether people have any good reasons for their positions, is to take a contrarian stance, and to seek the best arguments for unpopular positions. This also helps you to explore arguments around positions that others aren't investigating.
However, this can be taken to the extreme.
While it is hard to know for sure what is going on inside others' heads, I know [...]
---
Outline:
(00:40) 1. Contrarianism
(01:57) 2. Pedantry
(03:35) 3. Elaboration
(03:52) 4. Social Obliviousness
(05:21) 5. Assuming Good Faith
(06:33) 6. Undercutting Social Momentum
(08:00) 7. Digging Your Heels In
---
First published:
November 16th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/r6xSmbJRK9KKLcXTM/7-vicious-vices-of-rationalists-1
---
Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
683 에피소드
Manage episode 519917909 series 3364760
LessWrong에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 LessWrong 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
Vices aren't behaviors that one should never do. Rather, vices are behaviors that are fine and pleasurable to do in moderation, but tempting to do in excess. The classical vices are actually good in part. Moderate amounts of gluttony is just eating food, which is important. Moderate amounts of envy is just "wanting things", which is a motivator of much of our economy.
What are some things that rationalists are wont to do, and often to good effect, but that can grow pathological?
1. Contrarianism
There are a whole host of unaligned forces producing the arguments and positions you hear. People often hold beliefs out of convenience, defend positions that they are aligned with politically, or just don't give much thought to what they're saying one way or another.
A good way find out whether people have any good reasons for their positions, is to take a contrarian stance, and to seek the best arguments for unpopular positions. This also helps you to explore arguments around positions that others aren't investigating.
However, this can be taken to the extreme.
While it is hard to know for sure what is going on inside others' heads, I know [...]
---
Outline:
(00:40) 1. Contrarianism
(01:57) 2. Pedantry
(03:35) 3. Elaboration
(03:52) 4. Social Obliviousness
(05:21) 5. Assuming Good Faith
(06:33) 6. Undercutting Social Momentum
(08:00) 7. Digging Your Heels In
---
First published:
November 16th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/r6xSmbJRK9KKLcXTM/7-vicious-vices-of-rationalists-1
---
Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
…
continue reading
What are some things that rationalists are wont to do, and often to good effect, but that can grow pathological?
1. Contrarianism
There are a whole host of unaligned forces producing the arguments and positions you hear. People often hold beliefs out of convenience, defend positions that they are aligned with politically, or just don't give much thought to what they're saying one way or another.
A good way find out whether people have any good reasons for their positions, is to take a contrarian stance, and to seek the best arguments for unpopular positions. This also helps you to explore arguments around positions that others aren't investigating.
However, this can be taken to the extreme.
While it is hard to know for sure what is going on inside others' heads, I know [...]
---
Outline:
(00:40) 1. Contrarianism
(01:57) 2. Pedantry
(03:35) 3. Elaboration
(03:52) 4. Social Obliviousness
(05:21) 5. Assuming Good Faith
(06:33) 6. Undercutting Social Momentum
(08:00) 7. Digging Your Heels In
---
First published:
November 16th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/r6xSmbJRK9KKLcXTM/7-vicious-vices-of-rationalists-1
---
Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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