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Looking Beyond VAs: Building Leaders, Not Just Task-Doers | Lazy Leverage #63
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Jon Matzner and Peter Lohmann, Jon Matzner, and Peter Lohmann에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Jon Matzner and Peter Lohmann, Jon Matzner, and Peter Lohmann 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
Hiring a VA is easy. Turning them into a leader? That’s where most founders stall out. Jon and Binsi unpack how to stop recycling task-doers and start developing talent, explaining why reframing roles is the first step toward long-term leverage.
Jon breaks down the difference between delegation and development, while Binsi - Sagan’s newly minted managing director - shares firsthand what it looks like to grow from an assistant role into real leadership.
Together, they walk through the cultural, structural, and emotional shifts that separate low-autonomy task-doers from high-impact operators. They explore why title inflation doesn’t equal real promotion, how neglected onboarding is sabotaging retention, and why ambition is the heartbeat of every high-performer - no matter where they’re from.
They also preview Sagan’s new initiative: Global Talent 101, a five-day onboarding bootcamp designed to shortcut the ramp-up time for overseas hires. The goal? Better communication, clearer expectations, and real context for working in American business environments.
This episode isn’t just about semantics - it’s about systems. Because the distance between VA and executive isn't measured in miles or time zones. It’s measured in trust, training, and the belief that leverage is a two-way street.
TIMESTAMPS
(01:04) VA vs. Global Talent: What’s the Real Difference?
(03:55) Why Title Matters—and When it Doesn’t
(06:58) Signs You’re Still Hiring Like a “Level 1” Leader
(10:18) The Quiet Ambition of High Performers
(18:19) Designing a Better Onboarding with Global Talent 101
(24:00) Inbox Zero, Slack Habits, and Building AI Fluency
(27:00) The Leadership Ladder: From Order-Taker to Operator
(29:03) Common Onboarding Mistakes When Hiring for Potential Leaders
Stay connected for more insights and strategies by following:
Jon: @MatznerJon on X and at lazyleverage.beehiiv.com
Peter: @pslohmann on X and at peterlohmann.com
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