Joshua Cutchin: UFOs, Myth and Consciousness in The Permeable Ecology of The Unknown (Ep. 14)

Fire In The Cosmos (formerly Obliterate The Construct)

Guest

Joshua Cutchin

A full-time author and musician, Joshua has appeared on 100s of paranormal programs such as Coast to Coast AM and is regularly invited to speak at paranormal conferences about his work. He is the author of 9 books, including 2022's critically-acclaimed two-part series Ecology of Souls: A New Mythology of Death & the Paranormal. His latest book, Fourth Wall Phantoms: Reflections on the Paranormal, Narrative, and Fictions Becoming Fact, was released in April 2025.

In addition to his own books, Joshua also regularly contributes to essay collections, most recently Dr. Jack Hunter’s Deep Weird (2023) and Dr. Simon Young’s The Cottingley Fairies (2024). He has appeared on the hit History Channel television series Ancient Aliens and was featured in 2024’s breakout UFO documentary, Cosmosis. He is a regular guest on the Where Did the Road Go? podcast and can be found at JoshuaCutchin.com.

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Episode Summary

In this thought-provoking episode of Fire in the Cosmos, we delve into the intersection of fiction, myth, and legend with the paranormal, the supernatural, and the mystical! Josh takes us on a meandering ontological journey into the ecology of the anomalous, hierarchical realities, and co-created experience as we examine what the wider body of data on the extraordinary — unshackled from a reductionist, materialist paradigm — could suggest about our relationship with the world(s) around us! Get ready for a steady dose of fairies, Bigfoot, death, deities, aliens, and UFOs; and this time around, add in a dash of consciousness!

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References

• ⁠Josh’s website⁠ -- (Books, events, info)
• “⁠The Soul is a UFO⁠: Understanding and Embracing Transcendence” @ Esalen

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Josh’s Work

07:59 The Influence of Movies and Monsters

10:58 Childhood Experiences and Early Interests

16:01 Evolution of Thought on Paranormal Phenomena

21:49 The Role of Fear and Transformation

24:43 Understanding Anomalous Ecology

35:01 Exploring Fourth Wall Phantoms and Mythology

40:54 The Misunderstanding of Myths and Fairy Tales

42:37 The Intersection of AI and UFO Phenomena

45:40 Authority Structures and Reality Manipulation

49:47 The Nature of Phenomena and Collective Consciousness

51:18 Human Evolution and Expanded Consciousness

54:38 Art, Transformation, and the Human Experience

01:02:04 Theatricality of Reality and the Role of the Audience

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