#76 Nathan Law: How To Fight For Freedom

Dialog Liber

Nathan Law has been named as one of the most influential people in the world by Time magazine and was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work fighting for freedom in Hong Kong, where he was a leader of the Umbrella Movement and was elected as the youngest lawmaker in the city's history. Today we're discussing about how countries like China and Russia weaponize social media to dismantle democracy, the lessons learned standing up to an oppressive regime, and why freedom is worth defending despite the high cost.
You can find Nathan here:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NathanLawKC
X: https://x.com/nathanlawkc
➤ Books Mentioned In the Episode:
- Freedom: How We Lose It and How We Fight Back — Nathan Law
- Autocracy, Inc.: The Dictators Who Want to Run the World — Anne Applebaum
➤Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:58 Hong Kong and the Umbrella Movement
8:56 China’s oppression toolbox
17:43 TikTok & social media warfare
27:40 China’s (mis)use of anti-corruption laws
30:04 Nathan’s journey: childhood, activism, public figure
40:05 Lessons on finding meaning
44:50 Dealing with criticism
49:34 How to fight extremism
54:14 Rapid-fire questions
➤ About The Podcast:
At Dialog Liber (Free Dialogue) we talk with leaders from the Romanian society and explore together the nuances of the challenges around us. The mission of the podcast is to encourage open debates, to promote good books and long-term thinking, and to be a source of informed optimism for the people in the arena - those who are building solutions for Romania's problems.
➤ About Teodor:
Teodor N. Cataniciu is a European entrepreneur, writer, and podcast host from Bucharest, Romania. He is a Millennium Fellow at the Atlantic Council, a Polaris fellow at the University of Austin, and an active opinion columnist writing on current affairs, building better cities, and advancing European unity. Teodor was named one of the best entrepreneurs under thirty-five by the Dutch Financial Times and has been selected as one of Romania’s 30 Under 30 by Forbes. He is a distinguished alumnus of the Rotterdam School of Management at Erasmus University and a graduate of the University of Bucharest School of Law. He holds a finance-focused master of science from Columbia University.
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➤ Music:
Intro Music: Four Seasons (Vivaldi) remixed by Will Borders @willborders