Burnout Is a Business Problem: How to Fix It – Francie Jain

Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder

Employee turnover is expensive—and preventable.

In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, we’re tackling the hidden costs of turnover and the ROI of investing in your people. Dave is joined by Francie Jain, founder of Terawatt, a B2B marketplace for group coaching that Francie describes as “Airbnb for executive coaching.”

Francie unpacks how scalable group coaching can help organizations drive learning, build psychological safety, and improve employee retention. The conversation explores the measurable and intangible impacts of turnover and burnout—and why professional development is the key to tackling both.

You’ll learn:

• How to calculate ROI on learning and development initiatives

• Why burnout is an organizational issue—not just an individual one

• Real-world examples of how coaching drives financial and cultural gains

• How leaders can foster engagement, empowerment, and better communication

If you're looking for actionable ways to improve employee experience while improving your bottom line, this episode is for you.

----more----About Francie Jain:

Francie Jain believes supporting people to achieve their potential creates a ripple effect for every community. After a career in alternative asset marketing (match-making for hedge funds), she became obsessed with the lack of professional support for individuals at crossroads. She founded Terawatt to make it easy to be great.

Terawatt is Francie’s third for-profit endeavor. Before Terawatt, Francie founded a community that helped people with career change, Nxt Chptr, and prior to Nxt Chptr, a third party marketing consultancy, West River Partners, that raised capital for Emerging Markets-based equity hedge funds.

About the Host:

Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries.

Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers.

He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.”

Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions.

He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries.

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