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Thomas Wolf of Hugging Face on Dario's "On DeepSeek and Export Controls"

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Gist: Hugging Face's Thomas Wolf challenges closed-source AI model comparisons by emphasizing the global, innovative potential of open-source AI technologies like DeepSeek.

Thomas Wolf's original tweet at: https://x.com/Thom_Wolf/status/1885093269022834943

Summary: Thomas Wolf of Hugging Face critically reviews Dario's essay about DeepSeek and export controls, expressing skepticism about the essay's claims regarding the superiority of closed-source AI models. He challenges the comparison between DeepSeek and other frontier models, pointing out that the arguments rely heavily on internal, unpublished evaluations and vague comparisons that lack substantial evidence.

Wolf emphasizes the significance of open-source AI models, arguing that the open nature of DeepSeek fundamentally undermines the notion of a closed, geographically constrained AI race. He highlights that open-source models can be downloaded and used globally, with contributors from diverse regions adapting and improving upon the original model, which promotes technological innovation and accessibility.

The discussion extends to the broader implications of open-source technology for AI's future, with Wolf advocating for a global perspective on AI development. He stresses that open-source models offer crucial advantages like resilience, distributed computing, and the ability to run models locally, which will become increasingly important as AI becomes more deeply integrated into society's technological infrastructure.

Key Figures & Topics: Anthropic, Mistral, hugging face, CrowdStrike, Claude, Open Source, WhatsApp, Allen AI, Thomas Wolf, DeepSeek, AI, Export Control, resilience, technology, open source

1-liners:

  • "Open source knows no border both in its usage and its creation. Every company in the world, be it in Europe, Africa, South America or the usa, can now directly download and use DeepSeek without sending data to a specific country." - Thomas Wolf
  • "Open source has many advantages like shared training, costs, tunability, control, ownership, privacy. But one of its most fundamental virtues in the long term as AI becomes deeply embedded in our world will likely be its strong resilience." - Thomas Wolf
  • "More than national prides and competitions, I think it's time to start thinking globally about the challenges and social changes that AI will bring everywhere in the world." - Thomas Wolf
  • "Without access to the Internet we lose all our social media news feeds, can't order a taxi, book a restaurant or reach someone on WhatsApp." - Thomas Wolf
  • "Open source technology is likely our most important asset for safely transitioning to a resilient digital future where AI is integrated into all aspects of society." - Thomas Wolf

tldr; / tldlisten;

  • Thomas Wolf critiques Dario's essay comparing DeepSeek and closed-source AI models, arguing the comparison relies too heavily on unpublished internal evaluations
  • Open-source AI models like DeepSeek offer global accessibility, allowing companies worldwide to download and use the technology without geographic restrictions
  • Open-source technology provides crucial resilience in AI development, preventing over-reliance on single companies or data centers
  • The AI ecosystem is increasingly global, with contributors and model developments emerging from teams across different countries like the US, Europe, and elsewhere
  • Open-source AI models offer multiple advantages including shared training costs, tunability, control, ownership, and privacy
  • As AI becomes more integrated into daily life, open-source approaches will be critical for creating robust, distributed technological infrastructure
  • Recent open-source model releases by teams like Allen AI and Mistral demonstrate the rapid innovation happening outside closed-source environments
  • National competition in AI should be replaced by a more global perspective focused on safely integrating AI technologies across societies
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Gist: Hugging Face's Thomas Wolf challenges closed-source AI model comparisons by emphasizing the global, innovative potential of open-source AI technologies like DeepSeek.

Thomas Wolf's original tweet at: https://x.com/Thom_Wolf/status/1885093269022834943

Summary: Thomas Wolf of Hugging Face critically reviews Dario's essay about DeepSeek and export controls, expressing skepticism about the essay's claims regarding the superiority of closed-source AI models. He challenges the comparison between DeepSeek and other frontier models, pointing out that the arguments rely heavily on internal, unpublished evaluations and vague comparisons that lack substantial evidence.

Wolf emphasizes the significance of open-source AI models, arguing that the open nature of DeepSeek fundamentally undermines the notion of a closed, geographically constrained AI race. He highlights that open-source models can be downloaded and used globally, with contributors from diverse regions adapting and improving upon the original model, which promotes technological innovation and accessibility.

The discussion extends to the broader implications of open-source technology for AI's future, with Wolf advocating for a global perspective on AI development. He stresses that open-source models offer crucial advantages like resilience, distributed computing, and the ability to run models locally, which will become increasingly important as AI becomes more deeply integrated into society's technological infrastructure.

Key Figures & Topics: Anthropic, Mistral, hugging face, CrowdStrike, Claude, Open Source, WhatsApp, Allen AI, Thomas Wolf, DeepSeek, AI, Export Control, resilience, technology, open source

1-liners:

  • "Open source knows no border both in its usage and its creation. Every company in the world, be it in Europe, Africa, South America or the usa, can now directly download and use DeepSeek without sending data to a specific country." - Thomas Wolf
  • "Open source has many advantages like shared training, costs, tunability, control, ownership, privacy. But one of its most fundamental virtues in the long term as AI becomes deeply embedded in our world will likely be its strong resilience." - Thomas Wolf
  • "More than national prides and competitions, I think it's time to start thinking globally about the challenges and social changes that AI will bring everywhere in the world." - Thomas Wolf
  • "Without access to the Internet we lose all our social media news feeds, can't order a taxi, book a restaurant or reach someone on WhatsApp." - Thomas Wolf
  • "Open source technology is likely our most important asset for safely transitioning to a resilient digital future where AI is integrated into all aspects of society." - Thomas Wolf

tldr; / tldlisten;

  • Thomas Wolf critiques Dario's essay comparing DeepSeek and closed-source AI models, arguing the comparison relies too heavily on unpublished internal evaluations
  • Open-source AI models like DeepSeek offer global accessibility, allowing companies worldwide to download and use the technology without geographic restrictions
  • Open-source technology provides crucial resilience in AI development, preventing over-reliance on single companies or data centers
  • The AI ecosystem is increasingly global, with contributors and model developments emerging from teams across different countries like the US, Europe, and elsewhere
  • Open-source AI models offer multiple advantages including shared training costs, tunability, control, ownership, and privacy
  • As AI becomes more integrated into daily life, open-source approaches will be critical for creating robust, distributed technological infrastructure
  • Recent open-source model releases by teams like Allen AI and Mistral demonstrate the rapid innovation happening outside closed-source environments
  • National competition in AI should be replaced by a more global perspective focused on safely integrating AI technologies across societies
  continue reading

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