Alessandro Bogliari, CEO and Co-Founder of The Influencer Marketing Factory, a global influencer marketing agency, talks with great guests about influencer marketing, social media, the creator economy, social commerce and much more.
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The healing power of fitness goes far beyond physical benefits—for today’s guest, it’s a form of self-expression and a celebration of what the body can do. In this episode, host Nora McInerny sits down with fitness personality Ivylis Rivera, who shares her deeply personal journey of navigating life with Chronic Migraine while holding onto her passion for movement. Ivylis opens up about the struggle of staying active while facing the fear of triggering a headache or migraine attack and the resilience it takes to keep pushing forward—a resilience that carried her through the challenging journey of finding a Chronic Migraine treatment plan that worked for her. Join Nora and Ivylis as they explore the concept of “soft living,” a philosophy Ivylis embraces—staying active, listening to your body, and building trust in oneself. Click here for Product Information, including Boxed Warning and Medication Guide, or visit https://abbv.ie/prescribing_info See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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Hosted by digital marketers Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam, Lunch Hour Legal Marketing is jam packed with tips and tricks for attracting more clients and business to your legal practice. Tune in twice a month for expert advice to turbocharge your firm’s ability to generate cash money.
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Hosted by digital marketers Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam, Lunch Hour Legal Marketing is jam packed with tips and tricks for attracting more clients and business to your legal practice. Tune in twice a month for expert advice to turbocharge your firm’s ability to generate cash money.
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×LinkedIn is really working for lawyers these days, so Gyi and Conrad bring in the pros to school you on how to leverage it for your business. Learn how to create content that truly resonates with your audience from our dear friends Purna Virji and Tony Albrecht. ----- LinkedIn has become a powerful platform for growing legal businesses, but how exactly do lawyers go about it? The guys talk with Purna Virji, a principal consultant at LinkedIn, about how to make the connections you’ve been hoping for. What does your audience care about? What do they want to hear? Purna shares her tips for creating easy, engaging video and text-based content in just a few hours per month. Later, why should you care about being active on LinkedIn? Gyi and Conrad dig deeper into what you need to know about LinkedIn engagement with Tony Albrecht, the Yoda of LinkedIn lawyering. Learn about what LinkedIn growth could look like for you, dear lawyer! Tony explains the surprising supply/demand deficit for interesting content and how stimulating, genuine posts can significantly further your reach. The News : Congrats to Erin Levine! – Hello Divorce is now in all 50 states. Will marketers be replaced by AI? FirmPilot Reaches $11.7M in Funding, As Thomson Reuters and HubSpot Ventures Join As Investors New(ish?) launch from the Googs: Google AI Max The New York Times reports A.I. Is Getting More Powerful, but Its Hallucinations Are Getting Worse , so… cool cool cool… Thoughts on AI impacts for Local Pack from Greg Sterling and Barry Schwartz, respectively: AIO Pack, AIn't No Threat, Double Divestiture, Automation Blues and Google Tests Replacing Map Local Pack With AI Overviews . Just what you need! Our LHLM Conference is in the works for September 22-24 in Las Vegas. Suggested LHLM Episodes: How To Do Social Media Marketing the Right Way Connect : LinkedIn – Purna Virji LinkedIn – Tony Albrecht The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…

1 When to DIY & When to Call in the Pros — Mailbag Edition 38:37
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Should your agency be charging you for managing your LSAs? Are there things your in-house marketing team should be leaving to the experts? Today, the guys open the mailbag and answer these two great listener questions. Is it worth paying an agency anything for Google LSA management, or are you getting scammed out of a chunk of your marketing budget? Well, it depends, and the guys’ opinions may vary. Gyi and Conrad dig into a listener question to explain what LSA management could/should look like, what value it may bring to you, and whether ongoing fees are appropriate. Later, question 2! Should lawyers with an in-house marketing team entrust all their digital marketing to said team, or do they need to call in an expert agency for certain advertising channels? The guys talk about the realities of expertise gaps and how partnerships can really take your marketing efforts to the next level. Stay tuned to the end for a special announcement from Gyi and Conrad! The News : Brilliant or clueless—did this lawyer do this for the news hype & free advertising? Judge Rejects Lawsuit With Dragon Logo, Calling It ‘Juvenile and Impertinent’ - The New York Times Google, just… ick. Here’s our take on this extremely problematic Google overstep: Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
If lots of site traffic isn’t leading to lots of clients, something’s off. Learn how to get the traffic you want! Later, Gyi and Conrad unpack the marketing impact of publicly ranking all your competition—genius or folly? ----- You want website traffic that could turn into actual clients for your law firm, but how do you make sure you’re reaching the right audience? Gyi and Conrad talk tactics for segmenting your audience to make sure you get the qualified leads that can turn into profitable business for your law firm. Next, in a bold move, a Seattle family lawyer pulled a Zuckerberg and rated all of his local competitors, except himself. What do the guys think about the Hemmet Trends Report ? While it may be a sure-fire way to torch some of your local relationships, this kind of friction marketing can be a very successful way to get your name out there. 📺 Youtube: Segmenting Your Audience in Search Console The News : Google quality raters now assess whether content is AI-generated . What does this mean for your copy/pasted ChatGPT posts? You might want to seriously do that human edit. This could be big for local business, folks: TikTok takes on Google Maps by surfacing reviews in the comments tab . What do we think about Sponsored Youtube Comments ? So far, it seems like a pretty solid tactic. If you like poking fun at the dirty, rotten ethics of certain marketers, you’ll like Brian Glass’s podcast episode, too: Brian Glass - CaseConnect PILMMA - come see Conrad! Suggested LHLM Episodes: The Lawyer’s Guide to Conversions || Listener LSA Queries Apple | Spotify | Youtube Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
Just when you thought you understood Local Services Ads (LSAs), Google changes the game. Gyi and Conrad sound the alarm on the latest shift in LSA terms—and this one’s a doozy. Google now claims the right to tweak, repurpose, and plaster your ad content wherever it wants. Cool cool cool… unless you’re a lawyer who cares about things like client confidentiality and ethics. Is this a harmless update? A marketing landmine? Or just another “oops, didn’t read the fine print” moment? The guys debate what opting in *really* means, how it could affect your firm, and why blind trust in Big Tech is looking less like a best practice and more like a liability. Insight from Anthony Higman on LinkedIn Takeaways: Google’s changing the rules on LSAs—again. Your ad content? They can now modify and use it freely. Ethics red flag: This could compromise client confidentiality. Most lawyers have no idea this is happening. Opting in might mean opening a can of worms. Google’s rollout? Vague at best. Legal marketers are losing faith. Ad performance and trust are both on the line. Law firms must weigh ethical risks before opting in. Transparency isn’t optional—it’s essential. Chapters 00:00 – Breaking News: Google Drops LSA Bombshell 01:12 – What Google’s New Data Policy Really Means 06:00 – The Opt-In Confusion (and Consequences) 11:00 – Google’s Data Grab and Pricing Power Play 17:15 – AI, Ethics, and the Future of Legal Ads…

1 Show Me the Clients! — Holding Your Marketing Accountable 41:28
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Feeble marketing tactics are a major waste of your law firm’s ad spend! Make sure your budget isn’t being squandered by understanding what marketing quality and accountability should look like. If your marketer’s data looks like a success but isn’t resulting in new clients for your law firm, you might be getting shammed. The guys join us from the road at two of the legal industry’s finest conferences, ABA Techshow and Mass Torts Made Perfect . In their talks, Gyi and Conrad each presented the perils of marketing misinformation and what lawyers need to look for to ensure transparency and accountability in their marketing schemes. Leave us a comment on the LHLM LinkedIn page if you’d like to have Gyi and Conrad’s slide decks from their conference presentations! The News : Google Business Profiles are switching things up - Ask Maps Is Google Q&A’s AI Replacement: Here’s What It Means For Marketers It’s probably a good idea to opt in to Google’s experimental AI Mode to see where things are headed - Expanding AI Overviews and introducing AI Mode Notebook is expanding access all over the place - New in NotebookLM: Discover sources from around the web It is a very good thing that we are a country with laws, and though we’ve always been loath to get too political, we feel that we have to recognize current dangers and stand up for the rule of law. Read through The ABA supports the rule of law , Statement from SBM Leadership on Unprecedented Threats to Rule of Law , ABA condemns remarks questioning legitimacy of courts and judicial review , and more at the ABA’s Rule of Law page. On a lighter note, Jessica Hawkins from Consultwebs created a post on the Best Legal Podcasts of 2025 . Jessica gave LHLM a really nice write up, and we are super thankful to be featured with some other great shows! And, Conrad is desperately seeking an awesome Customer Success person. Just go see if you can find the hidden job listing on Mockingbird Marketing . Suggested LHLM Episodes: Bull$#!% You Hear at Legal Conferences Apple | Spotify | Youtube Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
AI is majorly, seriously, (annoyingly?) impacting law firm marketing, and it’s not just about content generation. What’s a lawyer to do? ----- In this special LHLM episode, Gyi and Conrad air their chat with Zack Glaser of the Lawyerist Podcast . Artificial intelligence has its sticky fingers in everything nowadays—even the world of law firm marketing. It’s changing the way consumers behave and changing the way ad agencies strategize in your market. So, how do you continue to compete, and where can you leverage AI to make a real difference? Zack, Gyi, and Conrad hash out how to make AI work for you, not against you. The News : Google’s still working toward world domination: Google makes its biggest-ever acquisition | CNN Business Joy Hawkins noticed some data anomalies in CTRs. What’s up? Come see us at some upcoming conferences! Gyi will be at ABA Techshow in Chicago, and Conrad’s headed to Mass Torts Made Perfect in Las Vegas. Then, they’ll both get together (virtually) at Infotrack’s Legal Up for another delightful website teardown. Links Mentioned: Lawyerist Podcast Suggested LHLM Episodes: Google Local Service Ads: To Brand or Not to Brand? Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
Live from the American Association for Justice conference in Miami, Lunch Hour Legal Marketing is back with another deep dive into law firm marketing strategies that actually move the needle. Conrad Saam and Gyi Tsakalakis break down the biggest questions they tackled at the event: 🍟 How much should lawyers spend on marketing? 🍟 Brand vs. non-brand marketing—why it matters 🍟 Are you tracking the right metrics, or just vanity numbers? 🍟 Lawyer referrals vs. digital marketing—what’s the real ROI? 🍟 Why law firms MUST use a CRM to stop missing leads Plus, we expose how some legal marketing agencies try to take credit for leads they didn’t earn. (Yes, we see you.) If you’re serious about law firm growth , you won’t want to miss this one. 🔔 Don’t forget to subscribe for more legal marketing insights! 🎥 Watch the full video here. Chapters 00:00 - Intro & Welcome from Miami 00:46 - How Much Should Lawyers Spend on Marketing? 01:32 - Investing in Growth: ROI vs. Volume 02:34 - Why 30% is a Key Number in Legal Marketing 03:56 - Brand vs. Non-Brand: What It Means for Your Law Firm 05:09 - How Marketing Agencies Take Credit for Your Leads 07:00 - Why "How Did You Hear About Us?" is Crucial 10:31 - The Biggest Intake Mistakes Law Firms Make 13:15 - If You Don’t Have a CRM, Are You Even Growing? 19:01 - How to Hold Your Marketing Agency Accountable 21:20 - The Truth About "Up and to the Right" Traffic Graphs 21:56 - Wrap-Up & Final Thoughts…
Lead thievery! How on earth could your competitor’s ad have YOUR name in it? Brand conquesting is a real thing, and it sucks. Later, is Gyi completely wrong about direct brand search in LSAs? The guys fight it out. ------ Having a competitor’s brand in your ad is some super shady lawyer marketing and violates Google’s trademark policies, but it still happens. What’s the deal? Gyi and Conrad talk about the ins and outs of brand conquesting, how it should be viewed under lawyers’ rules of professional conduct, and whether this kind of dirty campaigning is actually successful for the law firms who engage in it. Next, does having direct brand search turned on in Google Local Service Ads negatively impact your visibility? Maybe so, maybe no… it’s complicated! Gyi and Conrad argue their viewpoints and nerd out on a variety of marketing scenarios that could affect those pesky LSA outcomes. The News : If you’re amongst the crowd of laid off federal lawyers, Ben & Brian Glass are offering their assistance in helping you start your own gig. The Diversity Update from Google might be causing a drop in your organic results. Everybody’s noticing an uptick in AIOs in legal, so—yay! Lawyerist Podcast with Gyi and Conrad is coming soon! Links Mentioned: Google "Diversity Update" Live Stream Google - Trademarks - Advertising Policies Help Suggested LHLM Episodes: Google Local Service Ads: To Brand or Not to Brand? Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
Today, we unpack Gyi’s beloved catchphrase to see how “meh” he really feels about the significance of links in local SEO. Later—the strategic guide you need for top-knotch link building in 2025. A whole lotta folks like to say links don’t really matter anymore, but are they right? In practice, the guys have seen the positive effects of link building for clients for many, many years, and it’s still a piece of the pie today. However, there’s a ton of misinformation out there, so Gyi and Conrad debunk the most common misconceptions to get you on track for optimized, relevant, business-building links. And, later, what’s working best for link building in 2025? The guys share some great stories of businesses who engaged their local communities through service, scholarships, sponsorships, and more—all while getting awesome PR and plenty of links. Room for dessert? Here's some exclusive bonus content from this week's episode: How to Get Your Website to Rank in ChatGPT Search | SEO Strategy | Lunch Hour Legal Marketing The News : More mergers & acquisitions! Places Scout was purchased by Yext … so are we all in for some price jacking? Sigh. Probably. ABA is standing up for the judiciary, and you should too: ABA condemns remarks questioning legitimacy of courts and judicial review Quit ruining our weekends, Googs. Sheesh. Google Confirms Business Profile Reviews Outage Super grateful to Ahrefs for this really well done post: Google Says "Links Matter Less"—We Looked at 1,000,000 SERPs to See if It's True Mentioned: Google Cites Scholarship Links in a Manual Action Penalty Suggested LHLM Episodes: Is Link Building Worth It Anymore? || Top 10 Link Building Tips Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok Chapters (Times Approximate) (0:00) The Consummate One-Upsman (3:26) The News: Places Scout, the ABA takes on Trump, & GBP Outage (10:00) Busting Link Building Myths (24:45) How To Create Backlinks For Your Website In 2025…

1 Lawyer Marketing Nightmares: Dirty Tricks, Ponzi Schemes & Backstabbing 41:44
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Gyi and Conrad share the scary legal marketing stories you definitely wouldn’t want to find yourself entangled in. Later, don’t throw the attribution out with the bath water! It’s not impossible to track, and the guys explain how to go about it. ----- Sometimes you have to wallow in the muck of the digital marketing world to learn how to avoid the scum. All law firms should ask themselves this question: Do you know how your ad agency is spending your money? Gyi and Conrad dive into the allegations surrounding some very iffy third-party dealings to help you, dear listener, traverse the perils of the marketing world. And later, it seems that some LHLM words to the wise have been misconstrued! Don’t hear what we’re not saying—attribution is an essential marketing element, and your agency should absolutely be monitoring your advertising channels with careful attention. But, there’s more to it than just a simple pie graph. Gyi and Conrad share how to get the fullest picture possible for tracking attribution. The Quasi-News : Ownership v. Partnerships: A Connecticut lawyer is embroiled in some painfully messy business . American Association for Justice Winter Convention - Look out for LHLM LIVE! PILMMA Super Summit - Conrad’s Ski Invitation for April 28th. Suggested LHLM Episodes: Marketing Attribution: Follow the Data or Trust Your Gut? Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok Chapters (Times Approximate) (0:00) RISE OF THE MACHINES (3:00) News: Partnerships Gone Bad and LHLM on the Move! (9:24) How to Spot a Shaddy Marketing Agency (22:05) That’s Not What We Said!…
If your game plan is offline advertising, but your website sucks—you’re fumbling your growth strategy. And, later, Conrad shares his origin story! ----- There is often a significant imbalance between law firms’ offline and online marketing investments, but things simply won’t work as well if you don’t synergize both aspects. Gyi and Conrad talk through their recommendations for diversified online and offline expenditures that can maximize your firm’s potential for growth. Later, how did Conrad become Conrad? The child of Australian immigrant parents, Conrad shares his life’s journey from Vegemite sandwich-toting lad to MBA grad to SEO pioneer to Mockingbird Marketing owner—and everything in between! The News : We are brilliant crystal ball pontificators! Cases in point: Non-lawyer participation in the legal world - KPMG Law Firm Low firm consolidations - Sweet James purchased Jenn Gore ’s firm. Chaos and confusion! - TikTok - Gone and Back Again Report bad business conduct in GBP - Google Maps New Report Business Conduct Suggested LHLM Episodes: Conrad’s Crystal Ball IV | Lawyer Marketing Predictions for 2025 Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…

1 Conrad’s Crystal Ball IV | Lawyer Marketing Predictions for 2025 43:13
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Gaze into the depths with Gyi and Conrad, so you, too, can be prepared for the legal marketing days to come. This one’s all about the future, folks! ----- Well, and the past. First, an in-depth retrospective on whether Gyi and Conrad’s 2024 predictions showed true seer potential (or phony-baloney tendencies). Then, the guys turn a preternatural eye to what lies ahead. What mystically foretold trends will dominate the legal and marketing landscapes of 2025? From super-spammer AI avatars to, of course, another Michigan win—Gyi and Conrad can see it all. The News : Happy New Year from the Googly Googs. They kicked off 2025 with an infestation of Google Business Profile bugs. Yaaay. A Cautionary Tale: Deceptive marketing tactics could seriously come back to bite you in the you-know-where - “Strong Arm” Frank Azar wins $1.55 million in Google keyword lawsuit against Alabama law firm LHLM was selected by Feedspot as one of the 30 Best Legal Marketing Podcasts You Must Follow in 2025 ! Thanks, we think. Gyi’s GBP got suspended—again. ChatGPT for clients: MJ Morley shared that 3 out of 7 consults found her firm through ChatGPT – fascinating stuff! New CallRail launch – CallRail broadens attribution capabilities to include AI-powered search engines Is the truth about to get even muddier? Meta backs away from fact checking in the U.S. : NPR Suggested LHLM Episodes: Conrad’s Crystal Ball: The Re-Re-Return — Sponsored by CallRail Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok Chapters (Times Approximate) (0:00) Hail to the Victors (2:05) Google, Lying Lawyers, ChatGPT, and Meta all in the News! (13:47) 2024 Predictions in Review (24:45) 2025 Lawyer Marketing Prognostications…

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You’ve got a talented legal team at your firm, but should they also be involved in your marketing schemes? Later, we recently realized that some of you want a bit more backstory on the guys, so, Gyi reveals how his mysterious past made him into the marketer he is today. ----- Should your lawyers stick to lawyering? Sometimes, an associate is super interested, tactical, and talented at marketing, but sometimes… they’re not. So, how do you avoid potential misuse of resources and make the most of your relationship with marketing partners? Gyi and Conrad talk through how to build trust, optimize your assets, and learn to be on the same team with your marketer. It’s a bird! It’s a plane! No, it's Gyi Tsakalakis! Who is Gyi, anyway? Every super hero has an origin story, and so does every marketer. The News : The Google algo update is finished—FINALLY. And, honestly, the results are a bit of a snoozefest. Gemini 2 is out and about! And, similarly—Zzz. Apple launched its ChatGPT integration with Siri . Useful? No? Yes? And, Gyi and Conrad’s Google Business Profiles are back on track. What happened? Suggested LHLM Episodes: Playing With the Social Media Algorithm || Drafting Your Marketing Dream Team: Round 2 Dial M for Mystery Shopper Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok Chapters (Times Approximate) (0:00) Naughty Elf on the Shelf? (2:57) ALL the Legal Marketing News (10:36) Should Associates Play a Role in Your Law Firm’s Marketing Strategy? (26:53) What makes a Gyi?…
Intrigue! Drama! Suspense! Our victim, Paul Robinson Law, gets put through the wringer again with an after-hours secret shopper call plotted by Gyi and Conrad. ----- Before you get too delighted at the thought of hearing about the missteps of a fellow firm, remember—if you haven’t taken the time to fully engage with training and testing your in-house or third-party reception, your client intake might be dead in the water. So, did Paul’s firm successfully escalate the undercover shopper’s legal need? Gyi and Conrad analyze the experience and break down its good and bad elements to showcase how proper intake training, scripting, coaching, and emotional connection can foster a superior customer experience that will win you more clients. The News : Digital marketing luminaries Rand Fishkin and Greg Sterling have insights you need right now! Rand - The SEO opportunity pie shrinking and more insights and Greg - 300 Million Queries, Old Google, Cyber Week, Location Data Is Like Ground Beef Bluesky is really on the uptick. With 24 million users, a burgeoning SEO Community, and all your favorite legal tech peeps, is it the new place to be? - Amid X X-odus, Nothing But Bluesky from Now On | LawSites We’re getting used to disappointment - A Week Overdue, Google November 2024 Core Update Still Causing Volatility The TLTF Summit has wrapped up for this year, but keep an eye out for next year’s event for a chance to rub elbows with the best and brightest in legal tech. Thank you, loyal listeners! Spotify Wrapped showed stats that just make us uber grateful for you all. Also, the dirty, underhanded, belly of the internet turned on Gyi and Conrad in the form of Google Business Profile suspensions on the SAME day. Coincidence? They think not. But, that’s it for today—let’s hash all that out in the next episode. Other Episodes in the Paul Robinson Trilogy: Lawyer Website Roasted Ring, Ring! What to Expect When You Call Up a Marketing Agency Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok Chapters - Times Approximate (0:00) Planting our Flag / GBP Suspensions (6:59) Legal Marketing News (17:53) Mystery Shopper Call…
The stockings are hung, the cocoa is steaming, and the time has come to talk about gifts! In this festive bonus episode, Conrad and Gyi are giving Santa Claus a run for his money with their epic gift guide. Find the best gadgets, books and gear for the lawyers who have everything and clients who you want to wow. Sleigh your holiday gifting game with Gyi and Conrad’s shoppable Amazon list here: https://amzn.to/4gndoJf…
If the bio pic you chose for your website shows you standing in front of a shelf of law books… you might be in need of a website teardown. ----- Folks, we have a volunteer! As promised, the guys devote this episode to an in-depth diagnostic of a law firm website—one that might just look a whole heck of a lot like yours. Paul Robinson of Paul Robinson Law, PLLC offered up his personal injury law firm site to the merciless scrutiny of Gyi and Conrad. So if you, too, have been wondering whether your site is up to snuff, take a listen to the guys’ detailed teardown. From the first Google search to the nitty-gritty details of Paul’s site pages, they discuss both the failings and successes and explain smart, effective strategies all lawyers can employ to improve web presence and reach target clients. Watch on YouTube Suggested LHLM Episodes: Ring, Ring! What to Expect When You Call Up a Marketing Agency Does My Website Suck? | Law Firm Website Teardown Local SEO 2024: How to Rank AND Expand Your Law Firm Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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Join Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam live from the Crisp Game Changer Summit, where they dive into game-changing insights for law firm marketing and branding success. From Michael Mogill's big announcement of Streaming Stack to strategies for building your brand through digital and omni-channel advertising, this episode is packed with actionable takeaways. 📺 Watch on YouTube You'll hear our thoughts on: The value of brand-building before clients need you Effective targeting strategies to make the most of your marketing budget Why retargeting and leveraging first-party data are gold for law firms Fresh insights on how to connect with your audience and stay top of mind Whether you're a solo attorney or part of a growing firm, these tips will help you stand out in a competitive legal market. Don’t miss our scoop on the quiet LawRank acquisition and our take on branding do's and don’ts for lawyers. Pro tip: Stick around for creative marketing ideas you’ve never thought of before! Hit subscribe and drop your questions or comments below—we love hearing from you. Recommended Episodes: What is Dark Social and Why it Matters HELP! My Marketing Agency Was Acquired — What You NEED To Know Chapters (Times Approximate) (0:00) LHLM at Crisp Summit 2024 (1:54) Crisp Announces Streaming Stack: TV Streaming, Digital Campaigns (4:02) EverService Invests in Law Rank (10:50) Brand Building 101 (15:46) Optimizing Audience Segments and Targeting (19:07) Retargeting and Lookalike Audiences (24:11) Targeted Saturation (30:27) Brand Affinity > Brand Awareness (34:57) Forbes - Best Lawyer Near Me…
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1 Ring, Ring! What to Expect When You Call Up a Marketing Agency 37:16
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Get the 411 on everything you need to think through before you get on the line with a prospective ad agency. ----- This episode is off the hook, y’all. Working with a professional marketer could be the key to unlocking new possibilities for your law firm, but sometimes it’s tricky to dial in on the most important questions to ask as you vet an agency. In a bit of LHLM Theatre, Gyi and Conrad play the parts of curious lawyer and potential marketer engaging in the right business conversations as they begin their fruitful working relationship. Lawyers will learn how to ask questions that give meaningful insights into future growth and hear the sort of tactics marketers should be serving up in your consultation. Stay on the line—our next episode features another law firm website teardown! The News: ChatGPT Search is available now! Go check it out. A GenAI question box from Google looks to be a pretty promising tool: Google Business Profiles Learn Something Specific Question Box . More Conrad & Gyi on some special podcast appearances - Answering Legal: Law Firm Reboot Camp Podcast and Profit, Scale, Thrive . Suggested LHLM Episodes: LinkedInGPT || Red Flags for Firing Your Agency How Not To Use TikTok For Your Law Firm || 5 Tips to Increase Referrals Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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AI replacing lawyers… undercapitalized marketing budgets… unanswered calls… the horror! Clio’s 2024 Legal Trends Report is a scary-good resource for attorneys, and the insights from its massive data set are super helpful from oh-so many angles. The guys unwrap their top fun-size tidbits for discussion and offer tips for applying them in your law firm. They discuss the AI revolution, stats on law firm communications, tactics for higher conversion rates, and more. Read the full report! It’s here, and it’s free: Clio’s 2024 Legal Trends Report Mentioned in this Episode : BEDLAM - Mockingbird Client Conference Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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Your underutilized, underappreciated marketing directors are writing quite the sob stories in their journals every night. Is your law firm worthy of their complaints? ----- Today, we’re picking the heart-shaped lock of every law firm marketing director’s innermost desires and disappointments. Gyi and Conrad unpack the age-old issues between marketers and those they serve to (hopefully) broaden understanding for both sides. They outline some of the common mistakes made by each party—lawyers v. marketers—and give tactical advice for collaboration that encourages the bloom of efficiency and profitability. They pick apart the faulty ideology around referrals, search, and marketing budgets that could be stunting your firm’s growth and your marketer’s potential. Later, which should you pick—Ahrefs or Semrush? The guys answer a listener question on which, if either, of these tools is best, but not without a few caveats. The News: Search Engine Land Acquired by Semrush – Eh, this probably isn’t great for Search Engine Land’s readers. There’s got to be some sort of stupid Type-A ego B.S. going on with this whole situation: WP Engine asks court to stop Matt Mullenweg from blocking access to WordPress resources - The Verge . Allison McKeen, Ryan McKeen, and Brittany Green launched a great new book (and may, or may not, be Mando fans)! – The Way: A Simple Roadmap for Leading a Healthy Law Firm Suggested Episodes: Dear State Bar Regulator - South Carolina Edition Connect : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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In the wake of yet another legal tech acquisition, the guys offer up tactical insights on legal directories. These paid listings for attorneys have been around for ages, but are they actually bringing customers to your law firm? ----- Steeper and steeper prices for online legal directories are making many lawyers really question whether the juice is worth the squeeze. So, is it? As the old attorney saying goes—it depends. Gyi and Conrad outline the potential value and downsides of directories and how to vet these services to ensure your investment is worthwhile. The News: Instability, uncertainty… not a good look. What’s going on, Wordpress? – WP Engine vs. WP Google AI Overview ads launch on mobile in U.S. – Because, you know, they’ve got to keep up in the AI arms race. Apparently, Conrad has powers of divination! – Internet Brands buys Findlaw Conrad wrote a great article on brand costs in PPC for SearchEngineLand – Branded keywords: How Google Ads drives up CPCs Suggested Episodes: Online Legal Directories, Worth Your Time (And Dough)? 5 Ways To Make Your Google Profile Pop || Is Your Chat Service Selling Your Leads? Mentioned in this Episode : Guide to Escaping FindLaw - FindLaw Jailbreak Guide | Mockingbird The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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1 HELP! My Marketing Agency Was Acquired — What You NEED To Know 22:36
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What do you do if the marketing agency you are engaged with gets acquired? Legal marketing experts Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam break down the news of Scorpion’s acquisition of Get Noticed Get Found and get into the potential pitfalls of YOUR marketing agency getting bought out. Learn the crucial things to watch for, like loss of data control, hidden fees, and potential conflicts of interest. Don't get caught off guard—stay informed and protect your firm's interests! Conrad’s Blog Post Press Release: Scorpion Acquires GNGF 📺: Watch on Youtube 0:15 Get Noticed Get Found Acquired by Scorpion 3:15 Does my agency have a conflict of interest? 6:28 Can I choose where my ads run? 8:45 Are you renting your own website? 14:22 What are the legal ramifications? 16:10 Transparency, Data, Ownership…
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You’ve got questions, we’ve got answers! Gyi, Conrad, and a roomful of attorneys got together for a Q&A session addressing real lawyers’ most pressing legal marketing queries. Every law firm has different resources, assets, liabilities, niches, advantages, connections, etc. So, how do you take your uniqueness and make your firm stand out? This episode showcases highlights from their session, where the guys offered tactical advice on the marketing issues that are consistently top of mind for law firms. The News: Big money flying around in the agency world — Scorpion acquired Get Noticed Get Found. Here’s the news bit: Scorpion Strengthens Commitment to Legal Industry with Acquisition of Get Noticed Get Found, Advancing its Consolidation Strategy . And, Conrad’s thoughts: What to do when your Agency is Purchased by Scorpion . Filevine has big news… and we beat Bob Ambrogi to the punch—ha! (Oh, you know we love you, Bob.) Now, what news, pray tell? Filevine’s got a lot going on: Even better end-to-end automated workflows AIFields: Instant Legal Document Analysis & Insights Filevine Revolutionizes Depositions with Depo CoPilot, an AI-Powered Second Chair for Litigation Attorneys Mentioned in this Episode : The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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“Rank Number One!”—an all too easy promise made by SEO agencies, but probably only deliverable while they’re standing in your lobby. What happens when you walk down the block? The guys talk about real, meaningful ranking results with Local Falcon. How is your law firm showing up in local search? Gyi and Conrad give an extensive explanation of Local Falcon , their go-to data visualization tool for seeing how your firm shows up in the local map pack (those three neatly featured business profiles you see at the top of your search results). You’ll learn how to figure out who your main competitors are, how to use Local Falcon metrics to make ranking improvements over time, and insights into the many effects of proximity and your area’s geography on ranking factors. Later, the guys dig in even deeper to explain how Local Falcon can be used to help you figure out whether you ought to open another office, or, perhaps, close one down. They hash out how to assess your metrics to determine the success (or lack thereof) of your investments. The News: A very long, drawn-out Google Algo Update is finally done, and it was big—according to people who care about that stuff. Yelp has never been fond of Google, and the recent ruling against the Googs gave them the ammo they needed for a lawsuit – Yelp sues Google for antitrust violations - The Verge . And, the compulsory AI mention: Semrush Launches AI Overview Tracking in Organic Research . Mentioned in this Episode : Local Falcon Does My Website Suck? | Law Firm Website Teardown - LHLM Episode The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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You may be losing prospective clients if their experience on your website is mediocre—or just plain bad. The guys share how to fix things up to grow your business. ----- What do marketing pros look for when they check into a law firm’s website? Gyi and Conrad take us through their processes as they take a deep dive into the structure and content of a Denver PI law firm website. They explain what to be on the lookout for, how issues with both site content and coding negatively affect a user’s experience, and tools they use to assess the visibility, credibility, and success of a site. 📺 Watch on Youtube The News: Will there be any enforcement behind this? We hope so: FTC Fake Reviews Rule and the End of “Fake Reviews”? (John Henson). Looks like Google AI Overviews Are Impacted By Core Updates , but will it change anything? Joy Hawkins writes about How Links Impact Organic Results and Local Packs , but Gyi’s got beef. AI Overviews Research: Analyzing sources in Google’s AI-generated answers —Are you tracking this stuff? You should be! Clio Sets Legal Tech Funding Record with $900M Raise at $3B Valuation . Someone’s got to compete with them, but can they, really? Mentioned in this Episode : LEX Summit Digital Marketing Q&A / Live Taping of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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1 Google’s Search Monopoly in Jeopardy: This New Antitrust Ruling Changes Everything 41:46
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Has Google finally been dethroned? Greg Sterling of Near Media joins Gyi and Conrad to hash out the DOJ’s ruling on Google’s search monopoly. ----- So, is the government going to break Google up? Greg begins by explaining the nuances of what actually makes a monopoly illegal and whether Google has acted in opposition to the law. Later, the guys discuss the spectrum of remedies that could come into play in Google’s future and whether new competition will be able to break through in the search space. For more on Greg’s perspective, read his article: Google Loses, AI Ankle Biters, GBP Menu Optimization . Gyi and Conrad also ask Greg to give his take on critical things lawyers should do to be easily discoverable by prospective clients and reduce their dependence on Google. The News: Google has an illegal monopoly on search, US judge finds Mentioned in this Episode : nearmedia.co localdialogue.com Interested in attending Auto Crash Litigation 2024? Check out the 360 Advocacy LHLM Discount . The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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1 How does Google know who you are? | Authorship v. Expertise 30:49
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You wrote some stuff, have great expertise, have great content… but does Google care? The guys hash out how to establish your cred and boost your content with tactical authorship strategies. ----- Conrad still values the bygone era of Google’s authorship attributions, but Gyi’s all about the latest on expertise with E-E-A-T. Who’s right, and how is authorship recognized by search engines across the breadth of the internet? Gyi and Conrad throw down on best practices for helping your content demonstrate Google’s E-E-A-T criteria and solidify the importance of your authorship. And, it’s not just about you publishing on your own domain. The guys explain how to effectively expand out onto other reputable platforms/publications to help search engines value and promote your expertise. Learn more here: Creating Helpful, Reliable, People-First Content | Google Search Central | Documentation And here: Author markup best practices The News: There’s not a lot of control over how brands show up on Google—will this change anything? - Maximize performance on Search with updates to query matching Google killed off its business messaging. What’s the deal? - Changes to Google Business Profile Chat Gyi and Conrad will both be at some upcoming events! Come see them at Auto Crash Litigation 2024 and Law Firm Summer Reboot Camp . And, for even more of Gyi’s mellifluous tones (oh, and marketing know-how), check out his appearance on the ABA Legal Rebels podcast. Mentioned in this Episode : LHLM Episode - Google’s Algorithm EXPOSED – What Matters and What Doesn’t - Legal Talk Network The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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Which platform is best for marketing your law firm? Facebook? TikTok? Insta? Reddit? Well, it depends… And later, hold on to your data, folks! Does a vendor’s use of tracking pixels benefit you or them? ----- Now, depending on your practice area, certain social media platforms may be better suited to connecting you to your target audience. The guys zero in on which creative strategies work well for differing areas of law and explain how to determine the social media platforms you should be focused on. Later, what can tracking pixels (like from iHeartRadio, etc.) do for you? Every pixel seems to have a tradeoff, and some of them most likely aren’t worth your while. Gyi and Conrad discuss the benefits and the possible lurking downsides in pixels. The News: At the time of this recording, Google’s Search Console had been down for 81 hours. Get it together already, Googs. And, more Googliness: Google Search Ranking Volatility Over June 28th & 29th Weekend Is AI search declining? – AI searches around 9% and zero click at 59% and Search Engine Land - AI Overviews Ryan McKeen launches Best Era and you don’t want to miss it! Last, but not least, Conrad made an appearance on Charlie Mann’s podcast - They Don’t Teach This in Law School Mentioned in this Episode : LHLM Episode - 5 Fresh Takeaways from Clio’s Legal Trends Report || The Case Against ROI - Legal Talk Network The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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Lawyers can’t just take a backseat when it comes to marketing, but what do you actually need to know to make sure your marketing approach holds water? Later, how do you go about marketing for two distinct practice areas in your law firm? ----- Depending on your role in your firm, you may need to know much more or much less about the way the marketing world works, but you absolutely need to have some basic knowledge to ensure that your tactics/data/vendors/potential hires/etc. make sense. Gyi and Conrad talk through what you need to know to be able to hold your marketing people accountable for delivering on your law firm’s objectives. Next, if you have more than one practice area in your law firm, what’s the best way to make sure each one is marketed effectively? The guys answer a question about how to grow different aspects of your law firm with well-thought-out marketing, resource allocation, and web content. The News: Hona succeeded in raising $9.5M , so there’s all sorts of new potential there. Get more of Conrad and Gyi! The guys will be speaking at Answering Legal Summer Camps - July 24th and August 14. Gyi told you so on LSAs! Go listen to these episodes: Google Local Service Ads: To Brand or Not to Brand? and The Lawyer’s Guide to Conversions || Listener LSA Queries Mentioned in this Episode: The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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1 Google’s Algorithm EXPOSED – What Matters and What Doesn’t 34:56
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The secrets of Google’s algorithm are out! So, what (if anything) should you do? ----- Is this the biggest news to hit the SEO industry ever? Google has had their first high-profile leak, courtesy of one of their very own engineers, and now SEOs are working all kinds of angles to leverage this new information. So, how juicy is it? Is all the hype justified? There’s a lot to unpack here, and you should certainly proceed with caution if some sort of SEO professional has flashy “leak secrets” for sale. Gyi and Conrad dig into the pile to explain how to process this news and make smart, tactical decisions moving forward. The News: For the first time, Google has had a major leak. The biggest findings in the Google Search leak - The Verge Local Search Implications of the Google API Leak Quite a few AI Overviews have been scarily bad, and could be considered hilarious, dangerous, or future lawsuit fodder—especially if you’re the unlucky fellow who takes AI’s advice about eating rocks or adding glue to your pizza sauce. Google AI's Insane Answers AI Overviews: About last week The ABA has a new ethics opinion on Listservs, so here’s what you need to know: ABA issues ethics guidance on a lawyer’s use of listservs, particularly for pending matters And, LocalU Detroit is coming up on June 24th! Mentioned in this Episode: Secrets from the Algorithm: Google Search’s Internal Engineering Documentation Has Leaked - Mike King / iPullRank Local Search Implications of the Google API Leak - David Mihm / Near Media 5 local SEO insights from Google’s API documentation leak - Andrew Shotland / Search Engine Land Gyi's Google Leak Threads on X The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter! Leave Us an Apple Review Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok…
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