What if there are ways of thinking about God and faith that are different than what our traditions have handed us?
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Episode 314: Duncan Pile - What If We Could Wake Up To The Union We've Always Had With The Divine?
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Duncan Pile is back for another conversation stemming off his thoughts about his deconstruction journey. Today we're talking about mysticism and waking up to the reality that we've always been (and will always be) intimately connected to the Divine. DUNCAN PILE: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/duncanedwardpile/ MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emergin…
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Episode 313: Duncan Pile - What If We Can Deconstruct Our Faith While Keeping Aspects Of It In Place?
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This week we're talking to Duncan Pile about deconstruction and his faith journey and wondering if perhaps we can deconstruct AND keep various parts of our faith/beliefs intact. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: DUNCAN PILE: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/duncanedwardpile/ MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationships/dp/B0C7T5TJD…
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Episode 312: Lauren Drake - What If Numerology Can Magnify The Reality Of Our Connection To The Divine?
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This week we're talking to Lauren Drake about numerology and what the numbers stemming from your birthday can reveal about you and your connection to the Divine. In this episode, she used my birthday as an example and absolutely BLEW MY MIND. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: LAUREN DRAKE: https://illuminatedlifehealing.com MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emergin…
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Episode 311: Amanda Udis-Kessler - What If We Embraced An Ethic That Empowered Everyone In The World To Flourish?
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This week we're talking to Amanda Udis-Kessler about her amazing book, "Abundant Lives: A Progressive Christian Ethic of Flourishing" and wonder about how the world might be different if we lived from an ethic that allowed everyone to flourish. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: AMANDA UDIS-KESSLER: https://amandaudiskessler.com ABUNDANT LIVES: https://amandaudisk…
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Episode 310: Eric Reitan - What If We Tried On A Worldview That Is Different Than The One We Assume Is Correct?
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This week we talk to Eric Reitan about deconstruciton, faith evolution, and the idea of truth having multiple layers as opposed to one narrow way of understanding. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: ERIC REITAN: https://www.instagram.com/reitaneric/ SO EDEN SANK TO GRIEF: https://www.amazon.com/Eden-Sank-Grief-Eric-Reitan-ebook/dp/B0CT98LR5V/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_…
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Episode 309: Drenda Thomas Richards - What If We Dared To Remember The Dreams We Had When We Were Young?
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New episode out with Drenda Thomas Richards who talks to us about her book, "DARE TO REMEMBER" and helps us tap into our true selves as we strip away our conditioned selves and become all that we have been created to be. This is a good one - ENJOY! SHOW NOTES: DRENDA THOMAS RICHARDS: https://www.drendathomasrichards.com DARE TO REMEMBER: https://ww…
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Episode 308: Thomas Oord - What If Life, Faith, And God Can Be Found Beyond Deconstruction?
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This week we talk to Thomas Oord about the book he recently wrote with Tripp Fuller - "God After Deconstruction". Are you deconstructing? Rethinking your faith? Does it all feel like a giant mess in your head and heart? This convo will (I hope!) make you feel less alone. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: THOMAS OORD: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rl…
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Episode 307: Herb Montgomery - What If Proximity To People Who Are Different Than Us Can Change Everything?
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New episode with Herb Montgomery talking to us about faith evolution and how being friends with people who are different than us has the power to change ... everything. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: HERB MONTGOMERY: https://renewedheartministries.com FINDING JESUS: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Jesus-Fundamentalist-Discovers-Socio-Political/dp/1957007893/ref…
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Episode 306: Sara Mastros - What If A Necessary Step Of The Christian Journey Is Exorcising Jesus Out Of Your Life?
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New episode out with my friend, Sara Mastros. Sara is a magician, sorceress, and teacher of witchcraft who dropped by to talk to us about some pieces of Christian history that many of us (perhaps!) aren't aware of and challenge some of our assumptions regarding being followers of Jesus. This one stretched me in some really good ways and I'm sure it…
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Episode 305: George Lizos - What If The Greek Gods Can Help Make Us More Faithful Followers Of Our Spiritual Path?
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What if the Greek Gods/Goddesses have something to teach us? And what if instead of luring us away from our own spiritual path, they can help enhance it and make us stronger, more faithful followers of it? Check out this convo with George Lizos and be sure to pick up his book! 📚 SHOW NOTES: GEORGE LIZOS: https://georgelizos.com SECRETS OF GREEK MYS…
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Episode 304: Seth Showalter - What If The Anti-LGBTQ Mindset Within Many Churches Is Greatly Harming LGBTQ People?
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New episode up with my friend Seth Showalter - we talk about his experience in converstion therapy and how the anti-LGBTQ mindset that is prevalent in many churches is harming LGBTQ people. This one will stretch you in the best of ways - enjoy! 🏳️🌈 SHOW NOTES: SETH SHOWALTER: https://sethshowalter.com FINALLY FREE: https://sethshowalter.com/finall…
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Episode 303: Alec John Belle - What If There's Truth In All Religions, But No Religion Holds All Truth?
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This week we're kicking off our PRIDE series with my friend Alec John Belle. As a member of the LGBTQ community who has had a unique spiritual journey, Alec brings an amazing perspective to the topics of religion, spirituality, and everyday life. Drop in on our convo and pick up his book, "EVERY SHADE OF ME" - enjoy! 🥳 SHOW NOTES: ALEC JOHN BELLE:h…
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Episode 302: Edward Dodge - What If God’s Wife And Marijuana Were Erased From The Bible?
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New episode with Edward Dodge who talks to us about his book, "A History of the Goddess". You're about to hear some things you likely never heard before - buckle up! SHOW NOTES: EDWARD DODGE: https://www.edwardtdodge.com/2021/10/23/a-history-of-the-goddess/ A HISTORY OF THE GODDESS: https://www.amazon.com/History-Goddess-Ice-Age-Bible/dp/1634243048…
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Episode 301: Josh Scott - What if the Bible Is More Than an Inerrant Book?
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New MID-WEEK RELEASE with my friend Josh Scott who talks to us about his new book, "CONTEXT: PUTTING SCRIPTURE IN ITS PLACE". We talk about inerrancy, evolving in our thoughts about the Bible, and how we don't need to read the Bible in order to be Christians. SHOW NOTES: JOSH SCOTT: https://www.joshscott.co CONTEXT: https://www.amazon.com/Context-P…
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Episode 300: Brian McLaren Helps Us Find Courage For A World That Is Falling Apart
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We made it - EPISODE 300! How exciting is this?! Joining us is Brian McLaren to talk about his NEW book, "Life After Doom" and reminisce with me about how we met and the early days of the What If Project. Pull up a chair and come celebrate with us! SHOW NOTES: BRIAN MCLAREN: https://brianmclaren.net/ LIFE AFTER DOOM: http://brianmclaren.net/LAD/ MY…
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This week we're talking to Pastor Trey Furgerson about his book, "Theologizin' Bigger" where he helps us imagine a God whose love is greater than anything we could ever imagine. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: TREY FERGUSON: https://www.pastortrey05.com THEOLOGIZIN' BIGGER: https://www.pastortrey05.com/book MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Storie…
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Episode 298: Dillon Naber Cruz Is A Public Theologian
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In this episode of the What If Project, we down with theologian and author Dillon Naber Cruz to explore some ideas behind his amazing book, "Theological Musings." As the conversation unfolds, y’all are invited to deep dive into the intersection of theology, philosophy, and the human experience. At the heart of the discussion is Dillon’s unique pers…
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Episode 297: Keith Giles Talks To Us About The Gospel Of Thomas
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NEW EPISODE up with Keith Giles talking to us about the Gospel of Thomas and his amazing book, ""The Quantum Sayings of Jesus". Enjoy! ✌🏻❤️ SHOW NOTES: KEITH GILES: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/ THE QUANTUM SAYINGS OF JESUS: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CW1FXSF2?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_XQ6H0BP51J5WAYNT566C&utm_source=Patheos&utm_medium=pub…
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NEW EPISODE up with Jon Turney talking to us about his book, "RJ the Astronaut" and the questions we have about ... everything. Enjoy! ✌🏻❤️ SHOW NOTES: JON TURNEY: https://www.facebook.com/jdt1970 RJ THE ASTRONAUT: https://www.amazon.com/RJ-Astronaut-Jon-Turney/dp/1957007907/ref=sr_1_1?crid=125QTEAOCJNFM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RZZdVYmdbIoNPkGuivDeUzrQS-B…
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Episode 295: Dr. Jennifer Bird Talks To Us About Marriage In The Bible
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NEW EPISODE up with Dr. Jennifer Bird talking to us about marriage and the Bible - buckle up! ✌🏻❤️ SHOW NOTES: JENNIFER BIRD: https://www.jennifergracebird.com/bio MARRIAGE IN THE BIBLE: https://www.jennifergracebird.com/books MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationships/dp/B0C7T5TJD4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2B051GGV2WCSI…
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Episode 294: Brandon Andress Talks To Us About Writing Fiction As A Subversive Tool That Speaks To The Issues Of Our Day
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New episode up with Brandon Andress talking to us about how fiction and various forms of art can be used to subversively speak to the issues of our day. Go get it! SHOW NOTES: BRANDON ANDRESS: https://www.brandonandress.com AND SO BY FIRE: https://www.amazon.com/So-Fire-Brandon-Andress/dp/1957007729/ref=sr_1_2?crid=19U4W38FQRP0X&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._R…
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Episode 293: Carl McColman Talks To Us About Christian Mysticism And Contemplative Spirituality
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This week Carl McColman joins us to talk about Christian Mysticism and Contemplative Spirituality - this is a GOOD ONE, ENJOY! ✌🏻❤️ SHOW NOTES: CARL MCCOLMAN: https://anamchara.com THE NEW BIG BOOK OF CHRISTIAN MYSTICISM: https://www.amazon.com/New-Book-Christian-Mysticism-Contemplative/dp/1506486843/ref=sr_1_1?crid=7M7LXS25DQRK&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.K6…
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Episode 292: Natalie Perkins Helps Us Find Wisdom From Ancient Jesus People In Writings Beyond The Bible
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New episode up with Natalie Perkins talking to us about finding wisdom for everyday life from books like the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Mary, The Acts of Paul and Thecla ... and more - ENJOY! ❤️🙏🏻 SHOW NOTES: NATALIE PERKINS: https://www.middlechurch.org/natalie/ IN TREMBLING BOLDNESS: https://www.amazon.com/Trembling-Boldness-Wisdom-Ancient-P…
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Episode 291: David Giles Talks To Us About Endings, Grief, And Processing Our Losses
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New episode up with David Giles talking to us about his book, "There Once Were Orange Groves". We talk about grief, endings, and processing the losses we endure in life. Enjoy! ✌🏻❤️ SHOW NOTES: DAVID GILES: https://www.instagram.com/davidgileswrites/ THERE ONCE WERE ORANGE GROVES: https://www.amazon.com/There-Once-Were-Orange-Groves/dp/B0CHL7K2WW/?…
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Episode 290: Maria Francesca French On Jesus, The Cross, And The Post-Christian Life
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New episode up for Holy Week with Maria Francesca French talking to us about Jesus, the cross, and living the post-Christian life while navigating through Lent, Good Friday, and all the things. If you're wondering how to make sense of Jesus and the cross after Evangelicalism - this one will be helpful, ENJOY! ❤️🙏🏻 SHOW NOTES: MARIA FRANCESCA FRENCH…
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Episosde 289: Perdita Finn And The Guidance Our Ancestors Long To Give Us
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This week we talk to Perdita Finn about her amazing book, "Take Back the Magic". Perdita talks to us about reincarnation and explores the mystery of what happens when we die and how to begin a practice of communicating with our ancestors. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: PERDITA FINN: https://takebackthemagic.com TAKE BACK THE MAGIC: https://www.amazon.com/Take-…
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Episode 288: Jonathan Foster Talks To Us About Divine Entanglement And The Forever Presence Of Love
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This week we talk to Jonathan Foster about his book, "Indigo". He shares with us about the sudden death of his daughter, navigating grief, and evolving in his faith and understanding of God. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: JONATHAN FOSTER: https://www.jonathanfosteronline.com INDIGO: https://geni.us/indigo MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories…
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Episode 287: Elaine Pagels Talks To Us About Grief, Loss, And Experiences We Can't Explain
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This week we are talking to Elaine Pagels about her book "Why Religion?" We talk about grief, loss, and experiences that surpass our understanding. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: ELAINE PAGELS: https://www.elaine-pagels.com WHY RELIGION?: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Religion-Personal-Elaine-Pagels/dp/0062368540/ref=sr_1_5?crid=I4PB2QTUZP88&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yfo2…
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Episode 286: Rob Bell Is Handing Out Permission Slips (To Ask Questions, Grieve, Create, And Listen)
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This week we are chatting with Rob Bell about his book, "Where'd You Park Your Spaceship?". Rob's dad passed away in June 2023 shortly after my dad passed in March 2023 and so we talk about our dad's, grief, and the spiritual journey. This is a good one - ENJOY! SHOW NOTES: ROB BELL: https://robbell.com WHERE'D YOU PARK YOUR SPACESHIP?: https://www…
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Episode 285: Kyle Smith Talks To Us About Christianity And The Stories Of Its Martyrs
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This week we talk to Dr. Kyle Smith about his book, "Cult of the Dead: A Brief History of Christianity". We talk about the history of Christianity through the lens of its martyrs and care of saints who have died by the sword, fire, etc. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: KYLE SMITH: https://www.kylesmithto.com CULT OF THE DEAD: https://www.amazon.com/Cult-Dead-Bri…
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Episode 284: Michael Gungor And The Reclaiming Of Our Christian Faith
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This week we are talking to Michael Gungor about his spiritual journey, the interconnectedness of all things, and the reclaiming of our Christian faith. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: WATCH OUR CONVO ON YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/M5L8-n9NhVk MICHAEL GUNGOR: http://www.gungormusic.com THE LITURGISTS: https://theliturgists.com/ MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Eme…
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Episode 283: Oren Jay Sofer Helps Us Meet A World In Crisis With Love, Courage, And Integrity
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This week we sit down with my friend Oren Jay Sofer to talk about his new book, "Your Heart Was Made For This". How do you approach the happenings of our world AND the happenings of our individual lives with courage? How do we come out the other side of the burdens and worries and heavy things of life with the capacity to continue to love? How do w…
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Episode 282: Elliot Adam On Leaving Evangelicalism, Tarot, And The Stories That Are Wired Into Humanity
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This week we sit down with Elliot Adam who is a longtime tarot reader and author of "Fearless Tarot" and "Tarot in Love". In this episode he talks to us about growing up fundamentalist Evangelical, coming out as gay, finding tarot, and so much more. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: ELLIOT ADAM: https://www.elliotoracle.com FEARLESS TAROT: https://www.amazon.com/…
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Episode 281: Dr. James Danaher And The Gospel Of Jesus Christ
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This week Dr. James Danaher joins us for the show to talk to us about his new book, "The Disciples' Gospel". We talk about the difference between a BELIEVER'S Gospel and a DISCIPLE'S Gospel and the invitation of Jesus Christ to follow him and wake up to remember who we really are. This one is a game changer! SHOW NOTES: JAMES DANAHER:https://www.fa…
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Episode 280: Eric Peterson Talks To Us About His Father’s Legacy And The Call Of God
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This week we sit down with Eric Peterson who is the son of the late Eugene Peterson to talk about Eugene's legacy, his creation of The Message Bible, deconstruction, the call of God ... and so much more. If you're in need of some encouragement, look no further! SHOW NOTES: ERIC PETERSON: https://www.colbertpres.org/ THE MESSAGE BIBLE: https://www.a…
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Today Michael Camp joins us to talk about faith deconstruction, embracing a non-violent theology, and his book, "Breaking Bad Faith". Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: MICHAEL CAMP: https://www.spiritualbrewpub.com BREAKING BAD FAITH: https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Bad-Faith-Exposing-Violence-ebook/dp/B0C9L21ZXD?_encoding=UTF8&fbclid=IwAR1HNPPFHhh-rE5JAdy6uELGj7…
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Episode 278: Martha Elias Downey Is Reimagining The Landscape Of Theology
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Today we're talking to Martha (Matte) Elias Downey about her book, "Go Wide" where she explores evolving from a place of narrow theology/thinking to one that is wide and open. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: MATTE DOWNEY: https://mattedowney.wordpress.com GO WIDE: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1957007656?&linkCode=sl1&tag=quoir02-20&linkId=d626be8c892bdd887cf3bf292…
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Episode 277: Keith Giles On Oneness With God And Each Other
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Today we're talking to Keith Giles about his own spiritual evolution and what might happen in our world if we could grab that we're all connected to each other AND all connected to the Divine. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: KEITH GILES: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/ SOLA DEUS: https://www.amazon.com/Sola-Deus-What-God-All/dp/1957007672/ref=sr_1_1?c…
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Episode 276: Jannie Bui Brown And James W. Brown IV On Tarot And The Sacred Web
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This week we talk to mother and son co-creators of "The Sacred Web Tarot", a unique deck of tarot cards that helps you listen to your inner voice and eliminate the idea that you are separate from anyone or anything. This one will blow your mind - go get it! SHOW NOTES: THE SACRED WEB TAROT: https://sacredwebtarot.com GET THE DECK: https://www.amazo…
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Episode 275: Tina Hardt On Grief And The Mystery Of Life After Death
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Today we're talking to Tina Hardt about her oracle deck, "The Beloved Dead". In this episode Tina talks to us about the mystery surrounding what happens when we die, connecting with the spirits of our ancestors, and disarms the fear around this topic that many of us were handed growing up in the church. This was one of my favorite episodes of 2023 …
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Episode 274: Suneel Gupta Helps Us Discover And Live Into Our Sacred Calling
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Today we are talking to Suneel Gupta about his amazing book, "Everyday Dharma" where he shares 8 essential practices to aid us in discovering joy, success, and meaning in everything we do. As you enter 2024 are you struggling to find your essence? Your purpose? The thing you're wired to do? Do you feel stuck? At a crossroads? Filled with uncertaint…
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Episode 273: Karen Shock Is Saying Sacred Thoughts Out Loud
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Today we're sitting down with Karen Shock to talk about her book, "Too Much and Not Enough". We talk faith evolution, deconstruction, and how voicing our deepest questions can actually be the most freeing, holy, and magical thing we could ever do. If you're in a place where your faith is growing and shifting and moving ... this one is for you! SHOW…
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Episode 272: Neil Douglas-Klotz Talks To Us About Revelations Of The Aramaic Jesus
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Today we're talking to Neil Douglas-Klotz about his book, "Revelations of the Aramaic Jesus: Hidden Teachings on Life and Death". Yes, ancient translations of the Bible were written in Hebrew and Greek, BUT Jesus's native tongue was ARAMAIC - what does that mean? Why is it important? Listen in and ENJOY. SHOW NOTES: NEIL DOUGLAS-KLOTZ: https://abwo…
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Episode 271: Stefanie Caponi Is Teaching Us The Basics Of Astrology
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Welcome to a NEW YEAR and SEASON SEVEN of the show - can you believe it? To celebrate we're kicking off a series where for the next EIGHT DAYS we will release a new episode EVERY DAY. The series is called "New Ideas For the New Year" and we're starting with Stefanie Caponi who is talking to us about all things ASTROLOGY as she reads my birth chart …
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Episode 270: Alexander John Shaia And The History Of Santa Claus
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Merry Christmas friends, and welcome to the last episode of 2023 AND the last episode of season 6 of the show. Today we're chatting with Alexander John Shaia about the history of Santa Claus. IMPORTANT NOTE: this episode is not for young ears as we talk about some sensitive topics revolving around Santa Claus and the myths surrounding his story. En…
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Episode 269: Mark Feldmeir Talks To Us About Life After God
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This week Mark Feldmeir stops by the show to talk to us about his book "Life After God" and what it looks like to find faith when the God you were handed growing up can't stand up against the questions you have as an adult. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: MARK FELDMEIR: https://www.markfeldmeir.com LIFE AFTER GOD: https://www.markfeldmeir.com/1640-2/ MY BOOK: h…
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Episode 268: Shannon Kearns Talks To Us About Theological Insights From Transgender Christians
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This week we're talking to Shannon Kearns about his book, "In the Margins" and what unique insights our transgender friends bring to the Scriptures. This book (and convo!) will stretch you, inspire you, and give you some fresh perspective on some very familiar passages/stories of the Bible. You read? Let's do it! SHOW NOTES: SHANNON KEARNS: https:/…
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Episode 267: Nicole LePera Helps Us Break Cycles And Find Peace
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This week we're talking to Nicole LePera aka The Holistic Psychologist about her newest book, "How to Be the Love You Seek". Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: NICOLE LEPERA: https://theholisticpsychologist.com HOW TO BE THE LOVE YOU SEEK: https://howtobetheloveyouseek.com MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationships/dp/B0C7T5TJD…
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Episode 266: Listening To And Learning From Other Faiths
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This week we sit down with FIVE contributors to the amazing book, "Sitting in the Shade of Another Tree" and talk about the importance of listening and learning from faiths other than our own. This is a GOOD ONE! SHOW NOTES: KEITH GILES: https://www.facebook.com/keithagiles HURUNNESSA FARIAD: https://www.facebook.com/hurie.fariad CALEB GILLELAND: h…
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Episode 265: Andrew Lang Helps Us Unmask Our Inner Critic
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This week we talk to Andrew Lang about his amazing book, "Unmasking the Inner Critic". We talk about the inherent goodness that is planted in us all and what to do when we realize that it's been covered up by the baggage we pick up in life. Lots of practical stuff in here mixed with (what I think is!) some pretty good theology. Check it out! SHOW N…
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