146. Solstice Special / Manda Scott & Della Duncan

In Conversation with Nathalie Nahai

As we approach the longest night in the North, I’m delighted to share with you what has become a cherished tradition of reflection, contemplation, and looking ahead to the year to come. In this conversation, I rejoin Manda Scott and Della Duncan for a collaborative midwinter offering from myself, Accidental Gods, and the Upstream Podcast.

From the questions we’re holding and the highlight’s we’re taking from the year, to the gifts we’d like to share with one another and with you as we cross the threshold into 2025, this is a ritual that I’ve come to really look forward to, and I hope you find it as uplifting as I do.

As always, Manda will close with a guided solstice meditation, the 7 Generations Perspective, which you can find over at Accidental Gods.

To introduced my companions…

Manda Scott is a novelist, podcaster and smallholder. Formerly a veterinary surgeon, Manda’s novels have been shortlisted for the Orange Prize, the Edgar and the Saltire Award and has won the McIlvanney Prize. She is host of the Accidental Gods podcast, which showcases individuals and organisations at the emerging edge of our world, to set the foundation for a future we’d be proud to leave to the generations that come after us.

We’re joined by Della Duncan, a Renegade Economist based in the San Francisco Bay Area. She is a co-host of the Upstream Podcast, a Right Livelihood Coach, a faculty member at the California Institute of Integral Studies, a Senior Fellow at the London School of Economics, a founding member of the California Doughnut Economics Coalition, and the designer and co-facilitator of the Cultivating Regenerative Livelihood Course at Gaia Education.

This is always a special episode for me, and I’m very grateful to be able to dive into conversation with these two brilliant women. I hope you find it inviting and inspiring, and I wish you a peaceful Winter Solstice and a fruitful new year.

SUMMARY

In this enlightening conversation, Manda Scott, Della Duncan, and Nathalie Nahai reflect on their podcasting journey over the past year, sharing insights on the themes of conscious evolution, anti-capitalism, and the ethical implications of technology. They explore the importance of community, personal growth, and the interconnectedness of all life, while also addressing the urgent need for systemic change in the face of ecological and social crises. The discussion culminates in a collective inquiry into how to foster a more compassionate and equitable world, emphasizing the role of individual and collective action in shaping a sustainable future.

KEY THEMES

· The role of imperialism in capitalism

· The importance of community and connection in activism

· Conscious evolution requires a shift in values and worldview

· Understanding the complexities of technology and its impact on society

· The need for systemic change to address ecological crises

· Personal practices can help maintain balance and well-being

· Recognizing the interconnectedness of all life is crucial

· Anti-capitalist strategies must consider the implications for all

· Art and creativity are essential in the age of AI

· Hope and resilience can emerge from collective action

WEBSITES

Manda

· https://mandascott.co.uk/

· https://accidentalgods.life/

· https://thrutopia.life/

· https://thrutopia.life/

Della

· https://caldec.org/

· https://www.upstreampodcast.org/

· https://www.dellazduncan.com/

RESOURCES

· Down the Rabbit Hole: https://charliebennettauthor.co.uk/shop

· Transformative Adaptation: https://shop.permaculture.co.uk/products/transformative-adaptation

· How to Be an An Anticapitalist in the Twenty-first Century: https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/products/933-how-to-be-an-anticapitalist-in-the-twenty-first-century?srsltid=AfmBOoq4Q9LtVqpS7BkvtrBsQwBW3eHwnbD9SKoDXxt-rT9_2BL1DdE

· God, Human, Animal, Machine: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/god-human-animal-machine-technology-metaphor-and-the-search-for-meaning-meghan-o-gieblyn/5885978?ean=9780525562719

The Psychological Drivers of the MetaCrisis: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-psychological-drivers-of-the-metacrisis/id1680606350?i=1000639851812