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Association Chat is a podcast dedicated to exploring the world of professional associations and member-based organizations. Host KiKi L'Italien engages with industry leaders, association executives, and innovative thinkers to discuss emerging trends, best practices, and challenges facing the association community. From membership engagement strategies to digital transformation, this podcast offers valuable insights for anyone working in or interested in the association sector. Join the conve ...
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How Nonprofits Can Break the Cycle of Doing the “Same Old Thing” to Grow Revenue & Drive the Mission Forward
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Join host KiKi L’Italien on the Association Chat Podcast as she sits down with Rick Harris, CEO of the Association of Proposal Management Professionals (APMP), to explore how associations can discover new revenue opportunities through creative strategies and innovation. With over a decade of experience leading APMP and a reputation as a nonprofit g…
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Must Know P.R. Strategies for the Turbulent Times of 2025
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Join host KiKi L'Italien for a riveting conversation with PR powerhouse Adele Gambardella. In today's politically charged climate, when should associations take a stand—and how can they do it effectively? Dubbed "the expert to call in a crisis" by The Wall Street Journal, Gambardella brings over 20 years of high-stakes PR experience to this timely …
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Like Nothing Else: The Police and Fire Games [with CPAF President James King]
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In this episode of Association Chat, we’re talking with James King, President of the California Police Athletic Federation (CPAF), to explore the vital role CPAF plays in supporting first responders. CPAF fosters wellness, camaraderie, and resilience among law enforcement and firefighter athletes and as you will learn in today’s episode there is no…
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"Future of Nonprofits in Time of Political Chaos" with ASAE CEO Michelle Mason
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What exactly is the state of associations in the opening days of President Trump’s second term? As the political climate shifts dramatically, Association Chat Magazine Editor-in-Chief and Association Chat Podcast Host KiKi L’Italien is joined by ASAE President & CEO Michelle Mason, FASAE, CAE, and Mary Kate Cunningham, CAE, ASAE’s Chief Public Poli…
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Navigating Hurricanes, Hope, and a Mega Conference – Lessons from SWANA’s Amy Lestition Burke
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In this episode of Association Chat, KiKi L’Italien sits down with Amy Lestition Burke, Executive Director and CEO of SWANA, to uncover the extraordinary leadership required to guide an association through two devastating hurricanes and a critical annual conference. As Amy shares her experiences, listeners will gain insight into how SWANA supports …
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In this episode of Association Chat, host KiKi L’Italien welcomes David Allison, founder of the Valuegraphics Project and best-selling author of The Death of Demographics. Together, they explore how associations can uncover and leverage shared human values to bridge divides and foster stronger connections. From finding common ground in loyalty, per…
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Can You Make Your Association Members Happy In Divisive Times?
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Fresh off the heels of the US Presidential Election, they explore how values—not demographics—drive behavior and decision-making, even in the association space. From origin stories in the advertising world to actionable insights on bridging divides, this episode offers a thought-provoking look at how associations can better connect with their membe…
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Inclusive Event Planning with Tracy Stuckrath In this episode of Association Chat, we sit down with Tracy Stuckrath, host of the Eating at a Meeting podcast, to dive into the powerful role of food in event planning. Tracy shares insights on how thoughtful food choices can elevate member engagement, drive sustainability, and keep attendees safe. Fro…
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In this "shorty" episode of Association Chat, host KiKi L'Italien opens up about the recent loss of her mother and the surprising complexity of navigating grief. From the unexpected physical and emotional toll to the confusing cultural practices surrounding bereavement, KiKi explores how grief is handled—and often mishandled—across different settin…
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The Path for Association Boards to Flourish Amidst a Time of Epic Disruption
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In this episode of Association Chat, host KiKi L'Italien interviews Jeff De Cagna, thought leader and founder of Foresight First, LLC. Listen to this full, unedited interview: https://youtube.com/live/1hRKtoNHVcg FOLLOW Association Chat... Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AssociationChat Visit our Website: https://associat…
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Association Boards Must End the Status Quo, Fight "Orthodoxy"
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In this episode of Association Chat, host Kiki La Italian interviews Jeff De Cagna, about the crucial need to challenge orthodox beliefs in association governance. Listen to this full, unedited interview on YouTube: https://youtube.com/live/1hRKtoNHVcg ❤️ FOLLOW Association Chat! ❤️ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Associa…
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Ultimate Job Security Means Building a "Side-Hustle Muscle"
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In this episode of Association Chat, host KiKi L'Italien is joined by Jennifer Lewi to discuss building your "side-hustle muscle" as an associations professional. We all know that no full-time job is truly 100% secure. Why not try to develop the skill of consulting or providing professional services while you are still employed? You can see it as a…
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Purpose-Driven Governance: A Call for Associations to Become More in These "Turbulent 20s"
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In this episode of Association Chat, host Kiki La Italian interviews Jeff De Cagna, thought leader and founder of Foresight First, LLC. Jeff discusses his influential series, "The Three Stewardship Imperatives," emphasizing the urgent need for association boards to evolve beyond the status quo in today's rapidly changing landscape. Listen to this f…
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How to Get Paid (and Behave!) When you Quit your Association Job
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In this episode of Association Chat, host KiKi L'Italien is joined by Jennifer Lewi to discuss how to go about actually getting paid when you quit your job to pursue a side hustle. The two also talk about what it is like to go from working in an association to joining the "dark side" as a consultant and how to quit your job with class so you leave …
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Associations Need Entrepreneurial Moves to Avoid the “Membership Cliff”
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In this special association podcast collaboration episode, Association Chat host KiKi L'Italien is joined by four other association consultants and podcasters to explore the growing importance of associations to consider roles like Chief Entrepreneur Officers, and how associations themselves can foster a more entrepreneurial mindset. We also touch …
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Financial Factors to Consider Before Quitting a Job to Side Hustle Full Time
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In this episode of Association Chat, host KiKi L'Italien is joined by Jennifer Lewi to discuss the key financial factors everyone should consider when planning to transition from their current job to making their side hustle their full-time occupation. Learn more about Association Chat's title sponsor, Big Red M: https://bigredm.com/ Watch this ful…
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Matrix Moves, Membership Magic, and Association Insights!
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In this episode of Association Chat, host KiKi L'Italien talks about member retention strategies and answers quirky questions from our community. Discover why consistent communication matters, how to make your events more inclusive, and what superpower KiKi would choose if she could. Spoiler: It involves instant ninja skills! Tune in for a mix of e…
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In this episode of the Association Chat Podcast, host KiKi L'Italien delves into innovative ways to onboard new members, sharing practical tips like personalized welcome packages, mentorship programs, and interactive webinars. KiKi answers a fun listener question. Tune in for actionable insights, engaging stories, and a touch of humor. Subscribe fo…
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Hybrid Meetings, Karaoke, and Road Trippin' to Cleveland
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In this special episode, KiKi L'Italien answers a question about strategies for boosting member engagement in hybrid events. Then, we switch gears as KiKi shares her go-to karaoke song and reminisces about unforgettable karaoke nights in Charleston. Plus, get the scoop on the exciting Association Chat Road Trip to ASAE Annual in Cleveland, complete…
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Price is Right –– Helping Associations Find Financial Resilience
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Associations need to focus on financial resilience, innovative pricing strategies, and value proposition in order to thrive in a changing landscape and ensure their existence. 00:00 📚 Associations need financial resilience and pricing aligned with value to thrive, as traditional revenue sources have shifted and competition comes from partners, not …
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Avoidance Aftermath – Uncovering the Hidden Costs of Inaction
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Avoidance and inaction in the workplace and in personal relationships can have significant negative consequences, and it is important to address and overcome these patterns in order to foster growth and psychological safety. 00:00 🔍 Avoidance and inaction have hidden costs, leading to negative assumptions, personalization, and a negative impact on …
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Think the secret to skyrocketing your leadership and team performance is all about working harder or networking more? Think again. In this episode of Association Chat, KiKi L'Italien teams up with executive coach Zovig Garboushian to dive deep into why the most successful leaders might just be the ones who know themselves best. Why It’s Time to Loo…
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In this episode of Association Chat, host KiKi L'Italie explores the complex world of trust within associations with "A Hot Take on Trust – Do They Trust Your Association?" Discover why trust goes beyond a binary existence and how associations can actively cultivate it among members, leadership, and broader communities. From the importance of consi…
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AI and Equitable Education...we hear alot about the harm that generative AI can cause on campuses, but can it also heal and improve equitability for higher ed? Join host KiKi L'Italien for this episode featuring insights from Charles Ansell of Complete College America, Michael Baston from Cuyahoga Community College, and Audrey Ellis, the visionary …
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ASAE Launches Association Governance Institute – What is it? What happens next?
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ASAE Launches Association Governance Institute – what is it and what happens next? "Charting New Horizons in Association Leadership: Paul Pomerantz Talks AGI Launch" Tune into Association Chat with host KiKi L'Italien as we welcome Paul Pomerantz, the force behind the new Association Governance Institute (AGI). In this episode, we uncover the essen…
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