In this digital first world, the old ways of recruiting are becoming obsolete. Or are they? The talent demands on every business has put TA squarely in the hot seat. Welcome to Talent Acquisition In The Trenches, a real dialogue podcast with talent acquisition pro’s closest to the front line. We want to talk to our peers who are actually doing the heavy lifting day in and day out.
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The Changing State of Talent Acquisition
Graham and Marty from Change State
The world of Talent Acquisition is in a constant state of change. The smartest companies are constantly evaluating their tools, technologies and marketing strategies to find ways to attract top talent. We go beyond the generalist topics you find on legacy HR-related news sources. Each week we unpack different topics around recruitment - from the impact of COVID on your employer branding efforts, to the hidden costs of cheap job seeker traffic and the candidate experience. Each week we'll div ...
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TotalPicture interviews with keynote speakers, best-selling authors, HR and talent acquisition practitioners, and vendors in HR technology, Talent Acquisition, Staffing, Leadership and Innovation to provide cutting-edge content and actionable information to our listeners. We cover many of the leading industry conferences including, SHRM, HCI, Recruiting Trends, and HR Tech.
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"So by bringing in automation, you can go back to your CFO, your C-suite, and say, 'By doing this, we will save this.' I can commit to these savings." - Joshua Seacrest Joshua is Paradox's VP of Marketing and Client Advocacy for Paradox. He is the former Head of Global Talent Acquisition and Strategy for McDonald's and Head of Global TA for Abercro…
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#53: Talent Acquisition for Start-ups: The Wisdom of NOT Hiring
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This week we welcome Carina Clingman to the podcast. With a PhD in biochemistry, Carina’s early experiences looking for jobs in the biotech space led her to start Recruitomics, a TA consulting group that helps small and startup biotechnology and pharmaceutical companies find and retain top talent. Topics include: the advantages (and disadvantages) …
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Ernest Ng: AI and Unlocking Talent Creativity and Innovation
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"Our attention is a limited resource, but AI has the power to optimize it and enable humans to invest their attention in cultivating relationships and pursuing creative and groundbreaking ideas."- Ernest NG Ernest is the VP of Strategy, Research, Content, and Incubation at Hiredscore. He has a PhD in Applied Psychology and expertise in organization…
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“I think everybody, at some point, feels like they don't belong until they realize they do.” - Rhea Moss. Rhea Moss is the Global Head of Workforce and Customer Insights and resident company “Data Nerd” at iSIMS . A mom, and Women in Tech advocate, she oversees the iCIMS Insights Program , which recently published the 2023 Talent Experience Report,…
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"It's as if recruiters are Lucille Ball in the chocolate factory, bustling around and stuffing chocolate wherever they can with no real prioritization or plan." - Trent Cotton I had a chance to sit with Trent, a versatile speaker, writer, TA Leader, and HR Executive at Reqfest ‘23 in Nashville TN where we talked about how he has adapted the princip…
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"Managing over 5,500 requisitions would be nearly impossible without the aid of technology and advanced automation." - Paul Kinsey - Executive Director TA Paul's team manages a ton of sophistication in their tech stack, and his team prioritizes investments that offer excellent ROI and address real-world challenges, such as onboarding speed, candida…
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Courtnay Wittmershaus Part 1: The first 90 days on the job as a Director of TA
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Only six months into her new role as Director, Workforce Planning and Recruitment Strategy, Courtnay Wittmershaus gave us a behind-the-scenes look at how she approached her integration into Sharp Health. Some quick stats on Courtnay: 12 years of healthcare TA experience 8 years in leadership roles Leads a team of 25 TA professionals RogueHire Elite…
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“Our philosophy is that everyone, whether it's the CEO of an organization or an intern, should have the same type of relocation experience.” - Jeff Ellman Planes, horses, wine cellars, and breast milk shipping are some of the unique requests Jeff and his team have relocated since 2010 - while focused solely on elevating the candidate experience as …
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“When we look at the ratio of Time to Source vs. Time to Process, it makes you question where am I investing my time and limited budget in improving my team's outcomes?” - Christian Ray Christian is a Managing Partner at RogueHire, a healthcare recruitment analytics, training, and consulting company. We sat down to discuss the outcomes of the 14th …
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"Being able to help people on their path to better health, it's just something I am very passionate about." - Justin Koch Justin is the Director of Talent Acquisition for Indiana University Health and has his Doctor of Pharmacy from Butler University. His team of over 40 TA professionals filled nearly 12,000 roles in 2022. Links: RogueHire Matt Rim…
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Talent Acquisition In The Trenches Live with Lee Health
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On today's episode, Matt talks with members of the Lee Health team in our first live podcast recording. Links: RogueHire Matt Rimer on LinkedIn저자 Matt Rimer
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Brian Brazda: Creating an entirely different level of caregiver connectivity
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“I don't care if you're a device sales rep, you're a physician, you're a nurse, you're a recruiter in a health system - there's always a patient at the end of what you do.” - Brian Brazda Brian is the VP of Sales at MyandYou (and former Sales Director at LHC), recently joined TA in the Trenches, powered by RogueHire. In this episode, we learn more …
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Ryan Affolter - How to Build a Recruitment Marketing Team
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The most significant factor that has contributed to my professional success is my openness to innovation." - Ryan Affolter Ryan leads the Talent Attraction at RogueHire, specializing in talent intelligence, training, and consulting for Healthcare TA teams. He is a recruitment marketing veteran with 20+ years of experience in companies ranging from …
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#52: David and Goliath – How Non-Technical Companies Can Compete with Tech Titans for Talent
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This week we welcome Heather Dunn to the podcast. Passionate about HR from an early age (16!), Heather brings more than 15 years of experience has an HR leader in technology companies, having held senior roles at Microsoft and Dropbox before joining Gem, where she currently serves at Chief People Officer. Topics include: how HR can be a “lonely” ro…
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#51: The Promises We Make — Maintaining an Employer Brand Through Times of Change
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This week we welcome Gretchen Huestis to the podcast. Passionate about human potential and purpose-led change, Gretchen has more than 20 years of experience as a management consultant and holder of senior HR leadership roles. She honed her skills at Towers Perrin, Pitney Bowes, SABMiller, and HSBC before assuming her current position at Siegel+Gale…
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“We can't be upsellers; we’ve got to be looking at how we are developing trust, developing a relationship, and ultimately finding the right role for people. - Jeff Greene Jeff is the VP of Talent Acquisition at Trinity Health, one of the largest not-for-profit, faith-based healthcare systems in the nation. It is a family of 123,000 colleagues and n…
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#50: Understanding the Labor Market—Inflation, Pay Equity, and Employees as “Free Agents”
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This week we welcome Jay Denton to the podcast. An expert in labor market analytics, Jay spent time at Bell Partners and Axiometrics before joining LaborIQ as Chief Analytics Officer. Topics include: the current status of the labor market, layoffs vs. new job creation, inflation, skills-based hiring and industry switching, pay equity, approaches to…
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#49: Conversations at Scale — Employer Branding in a Quick Apply World
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This week we welcome Adam Godson to the podcast. An HR technology veteran, Adam spent more than eight years at Cielo Talent before assuming his current role as President & Chief Product Officer at Paradox, a conversational AI platform for talent. Topics include: the growth of quick apply frameworks, the challenges of communicating an EVP in a quick…
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“My passion comes from knowing that through our work, we can support people in advancing their careers & ultimately positively impact patient lives." - Ryan Maglione. Ryan is the SVP of Global Commercial Talent Acquisition & tsp at Syneos Health, a global, publicly traded $5b+ biopharmaceutical services and solutions company based in Morrisville, N…
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“What we are realizing is that most candidates we are hiring are already in our ATS - this is our 75% advantage. " - Christian Ray. Christian is a Managing Partner at Lean Human Capital, now powered by RogueHire, a recruitment process transformation, and optimization services company. With over a decade of extensive research and analysis across 250…
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#48: Workforce Development – How Trust and Authenticity Foster Stronger Teams
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This week we welcome Becky Chung to the podcast. Passionate about HR, organizational design, and workforce development, Becky honed her skills in a range of industries, including health care, financial services, and software, before assuming her current role as Vice President of Talent Development at Cielo Talent. Topics include: skills-based recru…
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#47: 2023 Talent Trends – Skills-Based Hiring, Employer Branding, and the Rise of AI in Making Layoff Decisions
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Co-hosts Graham and Marty return for The Changing State of Talent Acquisition Season 3 debut. They share how the agency business has evolved in the past year and discuss key trends that will shape the talent acquisition landscape in 2023 and beyond. Topics include: Skills-based hiring, how automation can improve the hiring process, approaches to me…
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Today's episode is a special crossover with the Talk Talent To Me. Today, we kick off our coverage from the the floor of Talent Acquisition (TA) Week in sunny San Diego, California. We chat with Matt Rimer, Director of TA at Trinity Health, about some of the biggest hiring challenges currently facing healthcare and why it’s an exciting time to be i…
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Talent Acquisition Leaders: The Future of Recruiting Technology with Matt Rimer at Trinity Health and Host of “TA In The Trenches”
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Today's episode is a special crossover with the Talent Acquisition Leaders Podcast, and host Ryan Dull. On today’s episode, host Ryan Dull is joined by Matt Rimer, Director of Talent Acquisition at Trinity Health (HQ Michigan) and Host of “TA In The Trenches”, join them for a real dialogue on some of the latest insights, trends, and challenges insi…
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"Healthcare’s mission inspires you to become a better person. You cannot help but go into your communities and do better." Angela Ramos Angela Ramos is a Branding & Engagement Specialist for Harris Health System who joined me for Episode #11 of TA in the Trenches, powered by NAHCR. Links: RogueHire Matt Rimer on LinkedIn…
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Colin Lyle: Try it, Break it, and if it doesn’t work - try something else.
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"Without a doubt, your chief executive officer must know that if the people don't take precedence over all else, absolutely nothing will." - Colin Lyle. Colin is the System Director of TA at Advent Health. Advent Health is one of the largest non-profit health systems in the nation. It operates 50 hospitals in nine states, with over 8,200 licensed b…
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" Once a Nurse, Always a Nurse." - Theresa Mazzaro Theresa Mazzaro is the President of NAHCR and Senior Talent Acquisition Specialist at Johns Hopkins HealthCare with over 30 years of TA, Nursing, Healthcare, and Military experience. Links: RogueHire Matt Rimer on LinkedIn Theresa Mazzaro on Linked In…
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Rebecca Kapsalis: Bagels, Breweries, and Building a TA COE
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“I often say talent acquisition is the happy, happy, joy, joy of HR” - Rebecca Kapsalis Rebecca is the Associate VP of TA for The University of Vermont Medical Center. UVM's team of over 16,000 colleagues provides healthcare to more than 1 million people in Vermont and northern New York. The TA team consists of 46 TA professionals, filling 6,500 po…
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Kurt Stillwagon: Developing great recruiters, building new talent pipelines, and cultivating strong relationships with our clinical partners.
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“Even though we sit a heck of a long way from the bedside, we still make a difference ” - Kurt Stillwagon Kurt is the Sr. Director of Talent Acquisition at Wellspan. Wellspan is situated in South Central Pennsylvania, serving a five-county region; with over 20,000 employees and 220 patient-care locations. The TA team consists of over 50 TA professi…
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Josh Jackson: Healthcare leadership, executive search, and tech enablement to help address our staffing challenges.
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“The best recruiters are excellent storytellers, accurate storytellers. ” - Josh Jackson Josh Jackson, the Founder/CEO of Mosaic Talent Partners, found his niche in healthcare TA in 2015 when he started his career at Daversa Partners. There he learned the ins and outs of executive search. In late 2020, Josh transitioned to Oak HC/FT, where he was r…
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“Wherever you work, you have to believe in your mission.” - Bruce Mattos Bruce's recruitment career started at age 18 while working with his dad, the head coach of the Sacramento State Hornets. He learned much from hanging around his father. The most important was that the greatest gift you can give people is to share the love and passion you have …
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Sean Peterson: Start with the why, try new stuff, find what works, scale it.
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“Doing something that supports people at their best and worst, healthcare is exciting no matter what role you play, we truly impact what people do and how they feel.” - Sean Peterson From starting his career as a Sourcing Specialist to recently being asked to take on the Interim Director of Talent Strategies position, Sean has progressed rapidly th…
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Transforming/Maximizing your Employee Referral Program (ERP)
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Are you in the process of transforming your Employee Referral Program? Episode #5 of Talent Acquisition in the Trenches, powered by NAHCR, is a recording from a live webinar we recently did with Talk Talent. The first 30 minutes is the presentation, and the next thirty minutes are live Q&A from the audience. We hope you can take something valuable …
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Shana Lewis: Workforce Development, Apprenticeship Programs, and finding your Noble purpose.
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“Now is our opportunity to run into the fire and solve this workforce crisis.” Shana Lewis - VP, Talent Acquisition and Workforce Development at Trinity Health. Shana's role at Trinity Health and in the national workforce development community has her focus daily on looking for the most innovative solutions to close our workforce gaps. In this epis…
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Brooke Conlee: International Nurse Recruitment, Onboarding, and Building community
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“The nurses get here, and they just sell themselves to our colleagues; they are kind, provide excellent patient care and service to our patients, they are such an important part of our team,” Brooke Conlee - Sr. TA Lead - Hospital Sisters Health Systems Over the last ten years, Brooke has focused on designing and implementing international nursing …
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Creating connection, delivering a national hiring event, and getting recruiter capacity in check with Ryan Corbett, EVP of TA at Scion Health
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Ryan’s 18 years of TA experience leaves him knowing candidates want interaction. That is why his team prioritizes strategies like “Talk To Me Tuesdays” and “Walk In Wednesdays” and their 11th annual National Hiring event on August 4th. Join Ryan and me for an almost 40-minute conversation on Episode #1 of the Talent Acquisition in the Trenches podc…
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#46: AI for DEI — Using Data to Power Workforce Diversity
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This week we welcome Chandan Golla to the podcast. Chandan is Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer for Included.ai, a DEI-first people analytics platform. Prior to co-founding Included.ai, Chandan spent more than 20 years delivering compelling experiences powered by data, having led product teams at eBay, OneTrust, and Integris Software. Topics inc…
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#45: Decentralized Talent Networks — How the Blockchain is Disrupting the Gig Economy
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This week we welcome Adam Jackson to the podcast. Adam is a serial entrepreneur (Dr. On Demand, DriverSide.com, MarketSquare.com), startup advisor, and technology investor (Cambrian Asset Management). Adam’s most recent venture, Braintrust, is the first and largest decentralized talent network completely controlled by its users. Topics include: the…
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#44: On Bridge Building—How Uber’s New EVP Supports the Company’s Wider Mission
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This week we welcome Delfina Stabile and Xavi Martinez Salcedo to the podcast. Delfina began her career in Buenos Aires, where she worked as a Recruiting Analyst for Michael Page, before joining Uber—first out of Mexico City, and currently out of San Francisco, where she serves as Talent Attraction Manager. Prior to joining Uber, where he currently…
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#43: The Fourth Industrial Revolution — Recruiting at Scale in the Age of Artificial Intelligence
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This week we welcome Amit Parmar to the podcast. With more than 16 years of experience in technology and human capital management, Amit spent time at IBM, Deloitte, and Unisys before founding Cliquify, an AI-powered content marketing platform that drives equity in recruitment. Topics include: the fourth industrial revolution, how AI makes the curre…
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#42: Candidate Centricity—Shrinking the Access Gap With Better Interviewing
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Episode Description This week we welcome Jeffrey Spector to the podcast. Jeffrey spent more than six years at The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, where he served as Chief of Staff to Melinda Gates, before co-founding Karat, a service that helps CTO’s and CHRO’s make technical interviewing a customer-centric experience. Topics include: the surging …
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#41: Talent Mobility—The Myths Surrounding Reskilling Workforces
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This week we welcome Lindsay Witcher to the podcast. As a member of Randstad RiseSmart's global leadership team, Lindsay guides the development of solutions that empower talent leaders to successfully manage mobility within their organizations. We sat down to discuss her recent article, “DeBunking 4 Myths About Reskilling Your Workforce.” Topics in…
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#40: Going Virtual — Online Hiring Events in a Post-Pandemic World
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This week we welcome Ali Hackett to the podcast. After starting her career in the agency world, Ali spent more than 15 years as a talent acquisition and employer brand consultant before co-founding Meet & Engage, an award winning candidate experience technology. We sat down to discuss virtual hiring events in a post-pandemic recruiting landscape. T…
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#39: On Challenging Conventional Wisdom—Is Retention Overrated?
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This week we welcome Bryan Adams to the podcast. As Founder and CEO of Ph.Creative, a leading employer branding and talent attraction agency, Bryan has spent more than 17 years helping organizations build world-class employer brands. His creative, unconventional and even controversial methodologies have changed the way people think about employer b…
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#38: A Perfect Storm — The Forces Shaping the Post-Pandemic Labor Market
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This week we welcome Raghav Singh to the podcast. Raghav’s career in talent acquisition spans more than 30 years, including chapters at Taleo (where he served as Product Manager from 2000-2004), UnitedHealthGroup, KornFerry, and Salesforce, where he currently serves as Director of Product leading a team building HR and talent acquisition products. …
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#37: Recruiting Like a Champion—A Fresh Approach to Talent Strategy
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This week we welcome Scott MacGregor to the podcast. Prior to entering the world of talent acquisition, Scott spent 17 years as Chief Revenue Officer for Flo-Tech, where he saw the company grow from five employees to more than 300. Along the way, his experiences with recruiting systems and processes led him to believe that talent acquisition is fun…
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#36: Finding Your North Star—How Strong Brands Guide Business Decisions, From Product Design to Talent Acquisition
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This week we welcome Lindsay Pedersen to the podcast. Lindsay spent her early career as a brand manager at Clorox before starting her own brand strategy consulting firm, Ironclad Brand Strategy. Her recent book, “Forging an Ironclad Brand: A Leader’s Guide” provides an accessible overview of what branding is (and isn’t) and offers a multitude of re…
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#35: The Shape of Work—A New Language for Talent Matching
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This week we welcome Hung Lee to the podcast. With more than 20 years of recruiting experience, Hung is the creator and curator of the wildly popular “Recruiting Brainfood” newsletter and community, and Founder of Workshape.io, a next generation matching service for tech talent. Topics include: the origin and growth of Recruiting Brainfood, the his…
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#34: Birth of an Industry—The Evolution of Employer Branding
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This week we welcome Aaron Kraljev to the podcast. Aaron began his career at Wells Fargo, where he served as VP - Marketing Program Manager for the Student Banking Program, before transitioning in 2009 to lead the organization’s employer brand and candidate advocacy program. At the time, the concept of employer branding was still in its infancy, un…
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#33: Beyond Pedigree—How Assessments Are Democratizing Technical Recruiting
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This week we welcome Vivek Ravisankar, CEO of HackerRank, to the podcast. Vivek co-founded HackerRank in 2012 with the mission of using skills assessments to match developers with the right jobs. Since then, the company has helped more than 2,000 organizations go beyond résumés and ‘pedigree’ to find talent with proven programming skills. Topics in…
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