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This week's episode presents Part 2 of an excerpt from my course How to Secure a Career as a Medical Science Liaison. Together, these 2 episodes provide you with a good understanding of what an MSL does and how to pursue your first job as an MSL. The material presented over these two weeks, while dense with information, only represents about 15% of…
 
The Medical Science Liaison (MSL) in the pharmaceutical industry is a popular position for physicians who wish to leave clinical practice. This is true because it is possible to qualify for the job regardless of the extent of training (i.e., whether residency-trained or board certified, or not) or specialty; it does not require special certificatio…
 
John was interviewed recently, and at one point the host asked John to describe some of the most esoteric nonclinical jobs he has discovered. That got him thinking about the guests he has met over the past 5 years. So, this week he describes 5 of those guests and the interesting jobs they do that stand out in his mind as particularly unique and une…
 
Jen Barna, MD is a board-certified radiologist, and founder and CEO of DocWorking, a company that helps physicians and other healthcare professionals maximize meaning and purpose in life. It accomplished that by combining expert coaching, peer support communities, and highly interactive courses. Healthcare organizations use Docworking programs to i…
 
Lara Hochman, MD is a Family Medicine physician and the Medical Matchmaker. She is an advocate for fellow physicians’ well-being in the face of rising burnout and dissatisfaction. Her own experiences led her to discover the ways physicians lose autonomy, and how to reclaim their focus on helping patients. She founded Happy Day Health, a boutique ph…
 
For most nonclinical careers that a physician might consider when leaving a high-stress corporate-style practice, one or more association or society exists that can provide valuable support. In this week’s podcast episode, John describes the types of services these organizations provide, and how and when to use their services during the transition …
 
This is the second episode in my series on The 12 Month Roadmap to a New Career. You can find my discussion about Month One of the Roadmap in Episode 269. This episode addresses one of the activities started in Phase 2 (Months 2 through 4) of my Roadmap: Networking. Networking can be used to: start and grow a business, club, social group, etc. gain…
 
Today I’m presenting a popular podcast blast from the past from Episode 180. In it I described 8 common mistakes clinicians make when trying to pivot to a new job. Let’s revisit the answer to this question: What are the most common mistakes that will derail your job search? Tunnel vision and not keeping an open mind Being intimidated by a job descr…
 
In this episode, John introduces his 12 Month Roadmap to a New Career. He originally developed the roadmap to apply to landing a job as a hospital Chief Medical Officer. But the concepts apply to many other nonclinical jobs. In this first installment, John lists the four specific tactics that he recommends during the initial month of a job search, …
 
This week, Dr. Debra Blaine returns to the show to discuss her latest book. She has appeared on the show twice before (Episode 115 and Episode 231) and returns to announce the release of Beyond the Pillars of Salt and to explain how she published it. Dr. Debra Blaine is a family physician who has been practicing for over 30 years. She began writing…
 
In this week’s solo episode John explains the power found in Mastermind groups. He defines what a mastermind is. And he recounts the history of the development of the Mastermind in 1939 which is attributed to Napoleon Hill, who wrote Think and Grow Rich. John tells of the Mastermind sessions he had as a chief medical officer (CMO) of a community-ba…
 
Dr. Cherisa Sandrow is a Board Certified Family Physician. She received her medical degree from Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine and practiced family medicine including obstetrics for 15 years. Making the transition to telemedicine in 2015, she pivoted out of her busy office-based practice and created a thriving telemedicine practice, w…
 
Dr. Laura Clapper is a seasoned C-suite executive with extensive experience applying digital health solutions, providing value-based care, and supporting provider-health plan joint ventures. As a thought leader, she has focused on integrating analytics and disruptive technology into traditional systems, such as integrating digital health and remote…
 
Dr. Peter Angood has led American Association for Physician Leadership (AAPL) since 2011, having previously provided senior leadership for all sizes and types of healthcare organizations. During his career, Angood was the first chief patient safety officer and a vice president for The Joint Commission, senior adviser for patient safety to the Natio…
 
Called a creativity guru, Robin Landa, Distinguished Professor in the Michael Graves College at Kean University, is the author of 25 nonfiction books published by esteemed publishers such as Simon & Schuster. Berrett-Koehler will publish her new book, The New Art of Ideas: Unlock Your Creative Potential in November. Actor Holly Taylor (Manifest; Th…
 
Dr. Gretchen Green has been a diagnostic radiologist since 2006. She completed her medical degree at Brown University Medical School. She then completed a residency in diagnostic radiology at Yale University School of Medicine and a Women’s Imaging Fellowship at Harvard Medical School. Gretchen began expert witness work in 2015 and has served as an…
 
Today I want to revisit one of the most popular nonclinical jobs for physicians: Medical Science Liaison. It has been quite a while since I presented a podcast on this topic. So, I want to update you on this popular career option. An MSL serves as an educational and feedback link between a pharmaceutical, biotechnology, or medical device company AN…
 
Dr. Joe Sherman is a physician coach and retreat facilitator helping other physicians find more joy in their lives by escaping burnout and expanding possibilities. Joe is passionate about helping healthcare professionals discover how they can best match “soul to role” as they deliver compassionate care to their patients and clients. He is a consult…
 
Claire Unis majored in creative writing and literature at Dartmouth College, where she wrote for and published a student newspaper. By senior year she had become a regular columnist in the daily school paper. While in medical school at UCSF, she enrolled in the MFA (master in fine arts) program at the U. of San Francisco, where she focused on writi…
 
George Jerjian is the author of Dare to Discover Your Purpose: Retire, Refire, Rewire. Check it out at georgejerjian.com. George retired after being given just six months to live. Thankfully, his diagnosis was wrong. His retirement though was “hellish”. A former financial advisor, George is now on a mission to help retirees create a plan for their …
 
Shelly Bhowmik, MD, MPH, is the founder of Platform Wellness, a practice dedicated to helping people heal from burnout. Her practice is based on the belief that mindset is medicine, a belief she realized through her own journey that began at the edge of a subway platform. Dr. Bhowmik is a double board-certified physician specializing in Preventive …
 
Ron Barshop is a serial entrepreneur with several ventures serving primary care physicians. His podcast Primary Care Cures has been named on top healthcare podcast lists and presents thought leaders and CEOs of models that are fixing primary care and most of what’s broken in healthcare. He has chaired two angel networks in Austin and San Antonio an…
 
This week, I complete my presentation explaining how to capitalize on nonprofit board membership. There are 5 domains that cover most of those skills. Financial Management Data Management Business Management Leadership Talent Management I described each of them in Episode #254. In this episode, I explain how I used my volunteer experiences to obtai…
 
This week we return to a leadership and management topic. One challenge that must be faced when pursuing a nonclinical job, especially if it is a leadership or executive position, is demonstrating that you have the skills needed to be successful in that role. So, we start with that end in mind. Where do we get those skills, if they aren’t picked up…
 
Dr. Anjani Mahabashya completed her medical training in India, then emigrated to the U.S. After participating in several elective experiences, she entered the McLaren Flint Internal Medicine Residency Program in Flint, Michigan. She then began her career as a hospitalist. Her career was suddenly interrupted as the result of a disabling injury in 20…
 
In this podcast, John offers a presentation he made to the MidCareer Neonatology Group of the Neonatal-Perinatal Medicine Section of the AAP. As intensivists for newborns, they are as prone to burnout as any other hospital-based specialist. During the presentation, we get back to basics by defining a few terms, dispelling some myths, and offering i…
 
This week, John presents a topic in his Effective Physician Leadership Series. John learned a lot about working in a complex management environment as the chief medical officer for a 300-bed, stand-alone hospital. When reviewing a topic such as this, sometimes it’s fun and instructive to look at it from the perspective of what NOT to do. So, John d…
 
Dr. Rachel Beanland completed her basic medical degree in the United Kingdom at the University of Bristol. A few years later, she completed additional Public Health training at the University of Sheffield. She worked for the NHS until 2014. Then she began her freelance work as an independent public health specialist. In 2019 she founded Resilience …
 
Dr. Carl Peters graduated from the University of Missouri-Columbia Medical School. Then he completed his Family Medicine Residency Program at the University of California, Davis. He is board-certified in Family Medicine and Urgent Care Medicine. A Family and Urgent Care physician with 25 years of experience and over 10,000 telemedicine visits, Carl…
 
In 2014, Dr. Abeyna Bubbers-Jones was an NHS Urology Specialist Trainee working in Blackburn (in northern England). Having graduated from medicine at the age of 22 at Nottingham, she worked for several years as a surgical trainee in the NHS. But she was yearning for something more. She moved to South Africa and worked as a trauma surgeon for nearly…
 
Lynn Marie is a Mayo Clinic-trained physician, attorney, and former adjunct law professor. Dr. Morski spent nine years as a physician at the Veterans Administration. She is the President of the Psychedelic Medicine Association, the founder of PlantMedicine.org, host of the Psychedelic Medicine Podcast, and medical director for WayofLeaf.com and Nue…
 
Dr. Chelsea Turgeon completed her medical education at the University of Alabama School of Medicine. During year two of her OB/GYN residency, she realized clinical medicine was not a sustainable career choice. She resigned from residency, bought a one-way ticket to South Korea, and never looked back. Now, she has built a successful online coaching …
 
In this episode, John walks through the specifics of four unique nonclinical jobs that he has encountered during the past few years. For those who aren't looking for a traditional nonclinical career (in hospital management, pharma, medical writing, consulting, etc.) this is for you. You'll find all of these unique jobs and something to consider. Ea…
 
Dr. Andrew Wilner is a board-certified internist, neurologist, and epilepsy specialist. He is also a lifelong writer and has written many books and articles, covering both clinical and nonclinical subject matter. He found early in his professional career that locum tenens were the perfect solution to achieve work-life balance as a physician and wri…
 
Dr. Simon Maltais is an active cardiac surgeon in one of the world’s largest healthcare services institutions. He is an internationally recognized leader in the field of heart failure and alternative cardiac interventions. He is also a keynote speaker, has published more than 160 articles, and contributed to numerous books. As a board-certified sur…
 
Dr. Laura McKain is a board-certified physician with more than ten years of pharmaceutical industry experience in clinical development, and pharmacovigilance. She received her medical degree from Georgetown University in Washington, DC, and completed her training in obstetrics and gynecology at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, Virginia…
 
Kathryn Kraemer Troutman, also known as the Federal Resumé Guru, is the founder and president of The Resume Place, Inc., a service business located in Baltimore, MD, specializing in writing and designing professional federal and private-sector resumes, as well as coaching and education in the federal hiring process. For the past 30 years, Troutman …
 
Dr. Lev Grinman is board certified in neurology and sleep medicine and works clinically as a neurophysiologist. Daniel Cousin is a board-certified radiologist, fellowship-trained, and certified in PET-CT and nuclear imaging. They co-founded Doctors for Providers, a company that matches collaborating physicians with nurse practitioners and physician…
 
During the COVID-19 pandemic, Dr. Chester Zoda was working 80-100 hour work weeks and feeling burned out and overworked. He decided to spend 2-3 hours on weekends starting an online course business. He started by teaching digital marketing using Facebook advertising. His first course made $5,000 in the first month. Dr. Zoda’s colleagues noticed how…
 
Dr. Paul Hercock is an author, entrepreneur, and educator. He started personably serving medical device companies years ago. The recent adoption of the MDR Regulations in the European Union led to the need for more physicians in a variety of roles to help medical device companies comply with them. Paul wrote a book and was featured here on the podc…
 
Dr. Nneka Unachukwu, known across the U.S. as Dr. Una, is a pediatrician and entrepreneur. She is also the host of two podcasts and the EntreMD Business School, a year-long program designed to make up for the business education you didn’t receive during your medical training. Whether you are employed or own your practice or a nonclinical business, …
 
Best Friends Again is a Physician Marriage Coaching company. Its specialty is helping physicians and healthcare professionals reignite their marriage through a customized approach based on their unique needs. Their battle-tested physician marriage, generational physician family heritage, and expertise from coaching hundreds of marriages "off the le…
 
Dr. Nwando Anyaoku is Vice President and the inaugural Chief Health Equity Officer for a large health system in the Seattle area. She has been there since 2016 leading the pediatrics and Medicaid strategy. Prior to that, she served as the physician lead for health equity and community partnerships, which led to her current position. She is a board-…
 
Dr. Nkeiruka Duze earned her medical degree from the Indiana University School of Medicine. She then completed her internal medicine residency at Virginia Mason Medical Center in Seattle. She is a board-certified Internal Medicine physician practicing in the outpatient setting. Burnout and a desire for work-life balance led to her curiosity about n…
 
Dr. Jen Barna earned her medical degree and completed her Diagnostic Radiology residency at the University of Tennessee School of Medicine. She also holds a master’s degree in Molecular and Cellular Biology from Washington University in St. Louis. She is a board-certified practicing radiologist and founder and CEO of DocWorking. DocWorking is a com…
 
Heather Fork, MD is an ICF master certified coach who helps physicians find their best career path forward, whether in medicine, a nonclinical career, or something else. In 2010 she founded the Doctor’s Crossing and since that time has worked with hundreds of physicians to find greater career fulfillment and meaning in their work. She hosts the wee…
 
Dr. Debra E. Blaine was born in New York City and grew up on Long Island, New York. She attended Baylor College of Medicine to earn her MD. She returned to New York for post-graduate training and has practiced Family and Urgent Care Medicine on Long Island and Queens for over thirty years. She discovered that she loves writing thrillers – even more…
 
Today we meet a hospitalist who transitioned to work as a remote physician advisor. Dr. Robert Craven completed his medical degree at The University of Tennessee Health Science Center and his Internal Medicine Residency at Carolinas Healthcare System. He worked as a hospitalist for nine years. He was offered a position as a physician advisor for ut…
 
Dr. Ronnie Shalev completed her medical degree at Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center and her Emergency Medicine Residency at Drexel University College of Medicine. She is a board-certified Emergency Medicine doctor whose high-pressure job sucked the life out of her, leaving her weary, burned out, and unable to enjoy her family and day-to-…
 
Dr. Barbara Loeb, is an author, speaker, mentor, facilitator, and physician leader. She is committed to promoting well-being, especially for people working within healthcare. She believes that individuals devoted to caring for others often fail to take care of themselves. Her work is focused on inspiring caregivers to do just that. Dr. Loeb started…
 
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