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Hello, this is Thomas Talleyrand, and welcome to the populous cast. Hello everybody and welcome to the populist cast. So we're gonna get into salesforce.com. And really what they did was Project Veritas, Project Veritas is being cut off from salesforce.com. Then ironically, Project Veritas gets a leaked video from salesforce.com. And maybe one of the creepiest people I've ever watched beach or speak, that's in business. Some gaming Brad Taylor talk about the fact that Salesforce apparently has the moral authority to not make sure that they make a good product, not fulfill the contracts of their customers not to operate a business in an ethical way. Now they have the responsibility to determine what speech might possibly in some world incite violence, as long as it's not a Democrat. We know this because they've done nothing against anybody with the DNC, anybody on the left, we know that there are many, many news organizations that use some form of Salesforce, especially their Pardot product, or something else that they have, Salesforce has quite a large number of customers. And the reason that I wanted to take some time to talk about this is because, up until just a few days ago, I was kind of a salesforce.com fanboy hair product. Really pretty good. There's some downside to it. But there's, you know, it's really robust. And if you take the time to learn it, you can get a lot out of it. Marc Benioff has always been somewhat of a hero of mine. He was he's probably one of the best salespeople of our time. And, you know, he did a lot of good when he was at Oracle. He and Larry Ellison did a lot of good for Oracle. But then Benioff left. Ellison was on the board at one time, and may still be@salesforce.com, I haven't kept up with things. We haven't been a customer or I haven't been a customer, there's in quite some time. But salesforce.com in case you don't know what it is is the very first cloud product that really got some traction. And they ran salesforce.com for a long time, with a very small number of hacked together PCs, out of a bedroom of a house, across the street, or maybe it's been a while since I've read Mark's book, across the street, or behind or adjacent to Marc Benioff, personal house, they ran cables between the windows of the two houses when they were getting started, I think they started with $600,000. And I can't remember if it was 11 PCs or 111 PCs, it was a small number of PCs that they then turned into a dis-connected cloud computing service. That was really earth-shattering at the time. And one of the number one things that you had that Salesforce had to compete against was, why would I want to put my information in the cloud? Why do I how do I as a company not want to own my enterprise data, and salesforce.com very successfully made the point that they could stay up and that they could solve problems faster than you could if you had your own bare metal hosting, say, Microsoft CRM, or Microsoft CRM 3.0. After that, it started being available through the cloud. That was a big break, but it still requires much, much more detailed, specialized knowledge to make Microsoft CRM work. Siebel ended up with an online offering through Oracle bought Siebel and Larry Ellison helped start NetSuite. NetSuite is a direct competitor. In some ways with salesforce.com, although its content, content relation management, the software is not as robust as salesforce.com. However, it's all integrated. Many people use salesforce.com, or many clients use salesforce.com and NetSuite combined. They use NetSuite for their accounting functions, and their inner source, enterprise resource planning functions. And then they use salesforce.com for their marketing and Salesforce side. Salesforce, regretfully, not Pardot, Pardot was an Atlanta company that was deep into marketing automation, what marketing automation allowed you to do is, let's say that you are a company that did direct sales to businesses or you're a fundraiser, you could contact somebody or have somebody be directed onto your website, or your Twitter page or Facebook page, or any of your social media outlets that were considered the big three. And if they interacted with you, say they just logged on to the website, they clicked on the link that brought them to the website, in the link and the website, there would be cookies, these are the famous cookies, everybody has to sign off on those cookies, then give the give the tracking information so that six months later, three months later, if you fill out a form, and it says hey, I want some information about your widget number three, then that cookie then coalesces all of your data together with all your trips onto the website, what you've been looking at, what's your browsing history on the website, and certain rankings can be given to that activity to decide what quality of leads you are. So the higher your score is, the more likely you are to purchase. Now, they also have some abilities to have these rankings self-correcting so that they are always updating now that things have gotten more individualized and more robust. There's another company called Marketo. That is also in this business. Marketo is kind of the best in class. It's extremely, extremely expensive. We're talking about $100,000 a year investments here. If you just have an I mean well, just for me, with three people using it, it was 10,000 a year to use just Salesforce. part up was another $12,000 a year. So you know, you can tell you get in to a pretty big expense. If you're a large company or the RNC, the Democratic National Committee, Tidewater. 1000. currents, I believe, is the BLM thunder, and I believe that they also use salesforce.com. They're located in San Francisco, I can't see them using somebody else. So basically, salesforce.com is okay with BLM violence. they're okay with ANTIFA violence. They have clients such as Amazon Web Services, Amazon, who has hosted, hosted, and sold items on its web store that deny the Holocaust, that the Auschwitz museum said that, unfortunately, people were having to do what

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Amazon should be doing and screening their products for anti-Semite information, the famous and dreaded Boogaloo boys or maybe it's the proud boys, their web, their shirts, which some people say are anti or white supremacy shirts are sold by Amazon, they buy their stuff from Amazon. So you know, they have racist material on Amazon, they have violent material on Amazon, and they ferment violence on Amazon, however, salesforce.com seems perfectly fine with having them for a client, Amazon Web Services, that beacon of ethics and not knowing how to read a contract, which we're going to get into them and the next, next podcast. So just to give you an idea, you know, the New York Times as a client, you know, the number of people that are clients of Salesforce are legion as the So we're gonna get into in the next podcast states. However, the thing to know is, this has nothing to do with violence. This Brett Taylor guy is absolutely not telling the truth. Nobody used. There's nobody in any other charging documents that used any salesforce.com product to be incited by violence. Not a one, not one of President Trump's emails incited violence, most of them just ask for money. I'm assuming that Trump probably used par dot products a great program, I'm sure when salesforce.com got ahold of it, they expanded it. You know, it's just like Marketo Eloqua, all great marketing automation software products, that, you know, there's only so many that you can turn to. So it's just shocking to me that Salesforce would say to anybody who is a conservative, don't do business with us. You're that there's half of the country, let's don't do business with right now. Most fortune 500 companies are headed up by extreme left woke, or at least fascist oligarch, type CEOs. That's not going to be the case forever. There's always a pendulum, which is one of the reasons why it's always been considered up until recently, best practice for a business to stay non-political. If you want to give to charities you give to charities, and you want to give the packs you do it to make your life better. You don't do it to alienate half of the country. So I think

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that with Salesforce losing such a large amount of its valuation over the last few days, it is down from 280 into the two hundreds. I haven't checked today, but I believe last night it was $206 per share, down $80 a share in just a few weeks. I think that their fiduciary responsibility is not being carried out. So let's see the lawsuits, I think you're gonna have some shareholder lawsuits. Also, their purchase of slack is very concerning. I'm not sure. under a Trump administration, it would be authorized, I'm sure there will be a lot of lawsuits brought up about it. But this is a monopolistic move, some would call it a defensive move against other predatory prowlers such as Microsoft, there's a big battle going on between Microsoft CRM, and salesforce.com Microsoft CRM is more pleasing to look at. But salesforce.com has more functionality. But Microsoft CRM can't do as many things as salesforce.com can salesforce.com just to give you an idea of what you could do with salesforce.com. If you have a person walk into your store, or you're trying to do a deal with you can use salesforce.com CRM to not only pick up that lead that part up generated, and then determine if they're going to cycle through the sales funnel in a productive way. Or they need to be kicked back down to marketing to be groomed some more or marketed to some more. They excuse me, they they are then using salesforce.com to track all your interactions with the lead. Once you get the lead closed, and you're in the company, you can keep track of their service contracts and some other things their customer relationship. But the number one thing that it's used for is to exploit the account once you get in. And if you have multiple products to sell, which most businesses do, you want to make sure that a large number of those products are being purchased by your client, the more products purchased by your client, the less likely you are to lose them as a client. Now once we engage with a consulting gig with the client, we would then get into their inventory management, we would get into their finance, best practices, we would start looking at all their loans who are their lenders, is ex is an expansion. A good idea? is an acquisition a better idea? Do they need to go public, there's a lot of different things that you can keep track of. And you can start to tell as you get a universe of clients and a universe of reactions inside salesforce.com or any CRM for that matter. You can start to track whether they're going to be profitable, whether you need to kind of step away from them because they're not profitable. There's a lot of different reasons to

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use CRM. And if you get your Salesforce and your customer relationship force to live inside the CRM, it's an extremely powerful piece of software, you sometimes have to if you have a large number of transactions, you've got to, you know, leverage a business intelligence product, which salesforce.com also sales. And sometimes you have to have a, if you have a large workforce, they have another product, where you can have your workforce and your partner force all communicating together. So let's say that you have that your furniture distributor, you manufacture your furniture, you go to a high point, North Carolina, you buy your furniture there, it gets brought in on in containers or gets built up out in North Carolina, then you can use the salesforce.com CRM to interact with your partners. I know this is all been probably a little bit bland, and maybe a little bit too businessy. But I want to give you an idea of how intertwined a CRM product and a marketing automation product get to be in your daily business, it can cost hundreds of 1000s of dollars for even the smallest company, you know, a three or four or $5 million company to switch units or to switch over from say salesforce.com to Microsoft, what cost about $5,000 with Microsoft cost $10,000 excuse me, 5000 with Salesforce costs $10,000 to do with Microsoft. So usually, if you're a Microsoft shop, you're going to have in the house it if you're a salesforce.com shop, you don't necessarily have to if you're in their small business segment. And let me assure you small businesses, how a lot of people start off with them. salesforce.com started selling into large corporations by getting their Salesforce to personally pay for their subscriptions. So salesforce.com got started, not by getting a small business to do business with them. But an IBM salesman who's frustrated with his products and his follow up techniques going in and saying, hey, I want to, I want to do something and I'm going to spend $45 a month out of my money to be able to keep track of my communications with customers. That's how they started out. They put goldmine out of business goldmine. Back in the late 90s, the early 2000s was the key number one contact relationship, not customer relationship, but contact relationship management software out there. You bought it in any computer store, it was a disk, you put it on your computer, it ran fast, you could keep track of everything. The customization was okay. And you could trigger off some events and make sure that you call people back when you were supposed to. It was $100, maybe 300 for your Microsoft gold or for gold mine gold. So it was a great product. salesforce.com basically has annihilated them, put them out of business. They were my first customer relationship product, we'll use them great. It's just that to run them with a sales team. You had to have a server, there was about $10,000 you had to have a maintenance contract with somebody to keep that server going. You had to have Microsoft's server small business server software, which was what I want to say about

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500 to $1,000. Back then, but that included your email software back in the day, we didn't have all these Hotmail email addresses that you could just do MX record changes and get somebody to host your email. It was a lot more difficult than that you had to have Microsoft Exchange on a server. Microsoft Exchange required a great deal of upkeep. So in order to have Goldmine, you had to have Microsoft Exchange. And in order to have Microsoft Exchange, you had to have a server. So that for you to have goldmine, but it's $1,000 per person. Plus, but that was it. It was all you bought from goldmine, I think you probably paid 10% or 17% a year. And if you were a 1015 person small business with a Salesforce of four or five, you're up and running for $20,000 However, with Salesforce, once they got some group stuff going and they got their reporting down, all you had to pay was 45 to $75 a month, per employee that used it. So you needed less, you know, you needed four or five people, you needed $250 a month. So you had to go 10 years before you got to the same amount of money. And you didn't need Microsoft, you got to where you could host your own email, through GoDaddy, things got a lot cheaper, immediately. And the biggest barrier to entry that Salesforce had was to convince those people with those five, five salespeople, that they could put all their data with salesforce.com. And they could come into work the next day, and that data would still be there, that salesforce.com wasn't going to go out of business and run off with your data, that salesforce.com wasn't going to make some strange, arbitrary decision like they just made and cut you off from your data. Now, I don't know what they did with the RNC because the RNC hasn't really come out and spoken about it. But James O'Keefe with Project Veritas says, Well, he posted a copy of the letter salesforce.com is going to serve out the end of their contract, they're not going to let them expand into any new products during that time. And that they will no longer do business with them after the fact. I suspect that if O'Keefe if Project Veritas is transferring over to another CRM or whatever products they have with Salesforce, I suspect Salesforce will work with them for a few months to get that done as long as you're working in good faith, which so at least Salesforce is following their contract unlike it appears Amazon Web Services did. I guess I'm just really disappointed in Salesforce. First of all, I always thought that they were a very ethical company, even though Marc Benioff was and is a huge democrat supporter, a huge Hillary Clinton supporter, a huge Barack Obama supporter. He seemed to keep things in a recommend or keep things balanced, the way that you would think that a business leader would if he has, you know, a desire for a pet project like Bezos bought the Washington Post, I think you may have already bought something time or Newsweek who knows I don't really care because it had nothing to do with his salesforce.com. And product. Now, this Brett Taylor guy, I'm assuming with Benioff's blessing, I can't see them making such a big move without Benioff signing off on it has decided to just throw out all of this goodwill@salesforce.com had with people like me, people who I knew that they were way left-wing, they're out in San Francisco, you know, they're there, of course, their left-wing. And I knew that Benioff was left-wing, but still, he was one of my most and still is one of my most admired people. And I'm really just disappointed that he has done something to harm a company that people have been coming after since the day he started and he knows it. Leading up is a scrappy fighter. And he has done a great job at fighting off most

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entrees into his business world. You know, one funny story about Benioff is that Oracle world was a huge convention, they probably still have it. Well, maybe not with COVID, but used to all of the Oracle partners, large customers would send their people. And I believe that the Oracle world that was mentioned in his book was out in Shanghai, maybe. I'm not sure about that. It might have been Hong Kong. Anyway, he went to every cab company and posted inside every cab company flyers promoting Salesforce during the Oracle world convention. It was amazing marketing. It's guerilla marketing at its best. It was not expensive at all. It did. I don't even know if it costs $100,000. Today, when you're talking about that kind of marketing, that is not much money at all. So you know, once again, I have great respect for him. And I'm sure that some of the social justice warrior people have led him to what I think will be eventually led him astray. It may not, in the end, lead him astray. We'll see. We will see. Now in part two, I want to get into this minivan crash. That happened. You had 18 people in a minivan or in a an SUV that was designed for eight people to ride in. And that's not really comfortable to do a long trek in so the two SUVs in case you don't know, illegally entered the United States, in California, and they were both packed with people, one had 25 people in it. The other had 18 people in this Labor Day and taking the seats out, they had people just sitting on top of each other. There was nothing safe about it, they had a wreck, I think at last count, and haven't looked a day they had 13 people who had died. And this is the inhumane message that illegal immigration brings to us the human tragedy from these coyotes and drug dealers, there's always one of these are several of these reports. During the summer, we'll find some tractor load of people who were just left and they died, they suffocated and air pipe will have been knocked over some way. Unexpectedly, it just got too hot in there, the driver didn't check on people, or they didn't make sure that they had enough water. And that they, by the time that they pulled over and checked on the people, there was a load of dead people in the truck, and they just go off and leave it. That is why the Democrat's and the Republican's policy on allowing illegal immigration is racist, it is inhumane. And it is cruel. You have a responsibility to the people that you let come into this country, even before they get here if you put a message out to them to come. And then you don't make sure that it's safe for them to get here, then you and you will actually in this case, you know, it's not safe for them to come here, that there's a large number of females that are raped, you have people that are locked up in houses at the end of the trip, even though they may have paid $10,000 or more to the coyote, they still get locked up. Because those are people that now have money and they start torturing those people until they get more money out of their families back home before they're let loose. These are all things that we know are happening. They used to be brought covered quite widely on the news until the democrats decided that they needed new voters. Here's the problem. The from the republic or from the democrat side, these Hispanics, once you get here, and once you establish citizenship in some way, shape, or form. These people are usually anti-illegal immigration, they've grown up with and seen what it does to the people being victimized in by the coyotes. They are, you know, conservative in that they are religious, they want to have self-protection with guns. And they don't believe a lot of the democrat hype about socialism because they've seen more socialist fascist type of dictatorships, but a lot of times that they've fled from. So

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you know, Biden is you know, he's already at a disaster. He doesn't have a meeting without Kamala Harris there. We have a vice president that is every meeting instead of getting their own stuff, doing their own projects work in their own portfolio. She seems to be sitting there to make sure that Biden does whatever Susan Rice and Barack Obama told Biden to do for that day, or his oligarchical cabinet members want him to do for that day. There is a reason that Joe Biden is not doing press conferences. There's a reason that they cut off his YouTube press conference when he said he would ask, take questions. He wasn't supposed to take questions, apparently. We'll get to the bottom of that. He is being made fun of by the staff that he has hired. They know that he is incompetent, they know he's mentally damaged or challenged at the very best. They know that he is completely out of it. And there's a reason why he's doing absolutely zero work, except for signing stuff and about half the time. I don't even know if he knows what's being signed. So, here we go. This is what you voted for. This is what you get. Or at least this is what some people voted For. Lastly, I want to talk about ERCOT. And the state of Texas. A couple of things have happened with the state of Texas, the board for the utility committee, commission that was supposed to make sure something like the freeze and blackouts never happened. Those boards mostly all resigned, the CEO has been terminated. He was making a ridiculous $100,000 a year $800,000 a year to be absolutely incompetent. mean absolutely incompetent. He was spending too much time chasing wine and dining down in Austin, then he should have been taking care of business and he wasn't. And last but not least, Greg Abbott is brave Greg Abbott. And I'm kind of kidding here, as finally killed the mask mandate and the social distancing. The social distancing thing might have should have been cited back in, I don't know. But right now, there's no statistical evidence showing that any of this seems to be working. It may be exacerbating things. Texas has had its schools open since the beginning of the school year. So there's at least that and starting next Wednesday, no more mask, no more social distancing, and business. Hopefully, we'll get back to business. People will start to be getting their jobs back and hopefully, the economy in Texas will start to rebound. The Babylon B I'll link to them. They did a pretty cool satire where they say Ted Abbott really relaxed the mass mandate to run off all the people that had moved here from California. You know, if you're from California, or if you're one of these rich people who want to sit in your house, work remotely, and get on instacart and get a bunch of poor people to bring you your food and do your grocery shopping and run by and pick up your Flogger off from bearings down it at in downtown Dallas, then, you know, you can keep on doing that if you want to. Just don't make the rest of us if we don't want to. Especially not winning you can't point to any scientific data showing that you're correct. Like I told a person today on Twitter. What we learned from their comments are that they are a surface thinker. And that's what democrats and these leftists are. They're surface thinkers. They don't think past. What's obvious. Does a mask work? I don't know. We don't have a study yet. That shows it does. The next podcasts gonna be over the Parlor lawsuit. There have been some developments there. And I think they're good developments. It'll be a long podcast. We're over 30 minutes now. bored you enough about salesforce.com thank God we are free at last in Texas. No more mask mandates no more social distancing. I'll probably still wearing in 95 masks. I've got really bad asthma. So if I'm going to go into someplace, you know, I think the end 95 can actually offer some protection. I don't know how much it is very minimal. There's also seems to be some evidence that wearing the wrong kind of mask for long periods of time can increase your chances for lung cancer.

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I don't have to get out that often. When I do. I will wear a mask just to make myself feel a little better. But that's my decision. That's should not be the government's decision. God bless you. Enjoy your weekend and go fishing. Take your kid. If you don't have a kid. take somebody else. Take care.

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Hello, this is Thomas Talleyrand, and welcome to the populous cast. Hello everybody and welcome to the populist cast. So we're gonna get into salesforce.com. And really what they did was Project Veritas, Project Veritas is being cut off from salesforce.com. Then ironically, Project Veritas gets a leaked video from salesforce.com. And maybe one of the creepiest people I've ever watched beach or speak, that's in business. Some gaming Brad Taylor talk about the fact that Salesforce apparently has the moral authority to not make sure that they make a good product, not fulfill the contracts of their customers not to operate a business in an ethical way. Now they have the responsibility to determine what speech might possibly in some world incite violence, as long as it's not a Democrat. We know this because they've done nothing against anybody with the DNC, anybody on the left, we know that there are many, many news organizations that use some form of Salesforce, especially their Pardot product, or something else that they have, Salesforce has quite a large number of customers. And the reason that I wanted to take some time to talk about this is because, up until just a few days ago, I was kind of a salesforce.com fanboy hair product. Really pretty good. There's some downside to it. But there's, you know, it's really robust. And if you take the time to learn it, you can get a lot out of it. Marc Benioff has always been somewhat of a hero of mine. He was he's probably one of the best salespeople of our time. And, you know, he did a lot of good when he was at Oracle. He and Larry Ellison did a lot of good for Oracle. But then Benioff left. Ellison was on the board at one time, and may still be@salesforce.com, I haven't kept up with things. We haven't been a customer or I haven't been a customer, there's in quite some time. But salesforce.com in case you don't know what it is is the very first cloud product that really got some traction. And they ran salesforce.com for a long time, with a very small number of hacked together PCs, out of a bedroom of a house, across the street, or maybe it's been a while since I've read Mark's book, across the street, or behind or adjacent to Marc Benioff, personal house, they ran cables between the windows of the two houses when they were getting started, I think they started with $600,000. And I can't remember if it was 11 PCs or 111 PCs, it was a small number of PCs that they then turned into a dis-connected cloud computing service. That was really earth-shattering at the time. And one of the number one things that you had that Salesforce had to compete against was, why would I want to put my information in the cloud? Why do I how do I as a company not want to own my enterprise data, and salesforce.com very successfully made the point that they could stay up and that they could solve problems faster than you could if you had your own bare metal hosting, say, Microsoft CRM, or Microsoft CRM 3.0. After that, it started being available through the cloud. That was a big break, but it still requires much, much more detailed, specialized knowledge to make Microsoft CRM work. Siebel ended up with an online offering through Oracle bought Siebel and Larry Ellison helped start NetSuite. NetSuite is a direct competitor. In some ways with salesforce.com, although its content, content relation management, the software is not as robust as salesforce.com. However, it's all integrated. Many people use salesforce.com, or many clients use salesforce.com and NetSuite combined. They use NetSuite for their accounting functions, and their inner source, enterprise resource planning functions. And then they use salesforce.com for their marketing and Salesforce side. Salesforce, regretfully, not Pardot, Pardot was an Atlanta company that was deep into marketing automation, what marketing automation allowed you to do is, let's say that you are a company that did direct sales to businesses or you're a fundraiser, you could contact somebody or have somebody be directed onto your website, or your Twitter page or Facebook page, or any of your social media outlets that were considered the big three. And if they interacted with you, say they just logged on to the website, they clicked on the link that brought them to the website, in the link and the website, there would be cookies, these are the famous cookies, everybody has to sign off on those cookies, then give the give the tracking information so that six months later, three months later, if you fill out a form, and it says hey, I want some information about your widget number three, then that cookie then coalesces all of your data together with all your trips onto the website, what you've been looking at, what's your browsing history on the website, and certain rankings can be given to that activity to decide what quality of leads you are. So the higher your score is, the more likely you are to purchase. Now, they also have some abilities to have these rankings self-correcting so that they are always updating now that things have gotten more individualized and more robust. There's another company called Marketo. That is also in this business. Marketo is kind of the best in class. It's extremely, extremely expensive. We're talking about $100,000 a year investments here. If you just have an I mean well, just for me, with three people using it, it was 10,000 a year to use just Salesforce. part up was another $12,000 a year. So you know, you can tell you get in to a pretty big expense. If you're a large company or the RNC, the Democratic National Committee, Tidewater. 1000. currents, I believe, is the BLM thunder, and I believe that they also use salesforce.com. They're located in San Francisco, I can't see them using somebody else. So basically, salesforce.com is okay with BLM violence. they're okay with ANTIFA violence. They have clients such as Amazon Web Services, Amazon, who has hosted, hosted, and sold items on its web store that deny the Holocaust, that the Auschwitz museum said that, unfortunately, people were having to do what

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Amazon should be doing and screening their products for anti-Semite information, the famous and dreaded Boogaloo boys or maybe it's the proud boys, their web, their shirts, which some people say are anti or white supremacy shirts are sold by Amazon, they buy their stuff from Amazon. So you know, they have racist material on Amazon, they have violent material on Amazon, and they ferment violence on Amazon, however, salesforce.com seems perfectly fine with having them for a client, Amazon Web Services, that beacon of ethics and not knowing how to read a contract, which we're going to get into them and the next, next podcast. So just to give you an idea, you know, the New York Times as a client, you know, the number of people that are clients of Salesforce are legion as the So we're gonna get into in the next podcast states. However, the thing to know is, this has nothing to do with violence. This Brett Taylor guy is absolutely not telling the truth. Nobody used. There's nobody in any other charging documents that used any salesforce.com product to be incited by violence. Not a one, not one of President Trump's emails incited violence, most of them just ask for money. I'm assuming that Trump probably used par dot products a great program, I'm sure when salesforce.com got ahold of it, they expanded it. You know, it's just like Marketo Eloqua, all great marketing automation software products, that, you know, there's only so many that you can turn to. So it's just shocking to me that Salesforce would say to anybody who is a conservative, don't do business with us. You're that there's half of the country, let's don't do business with right now. Most fortune 500 companies are headed up by extreme left woke, or at least fascist oligarch, type CEOs. That's not going to be the case forever. There's always a pendulum, which is one of the reasons why it's always been considered up until recently, best practice for a business to stay non-political. If you want to give to charities you give to charities, and you want to give the packs you do it to make your life better. You don't do it to alienate half of the country. So I think

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that with Salesforce losing such a large amount of its valuation over the last few days, it is down from 280 into the two hundreds. I haven't checked today, but I believe last night it was $206 per share, down $80 a share in just a few weeks. I think that their fiduciary responsibility is not being carried out. So let's see the lawsuits, I think you're gonna have some shareholder lawsuits. Also, their purchase of slack is very concerning. I'm not sure. under a Trump administration, it would be authorized, I'm sure there will be a lot of lawsuits brought up about it. But this is a monopolistic move, some would call it a defensive move against other predatory prowlers such as Microsoft, there's a big battle going on between Microsoft CRM, and salesforce.com Microsoft CRM is more pleasing to look at. But salesforce.com has more functionality. But Microsoft CRM can't do as many things as salesforce.com can salesforce.com just to give you an idea of what you could do with salesforce.com. If you have a person walk into your store, or you're trying to do a deal with you can use salesforce.com CRM to not only pick up that lead that part up generated, and then determine if they're going to cycle through the sales funnel in a productive way. Or they need to be kicked back down to marketing to be groomed some more or marketed to some more. They excuse me, they they are then using salesforce.com to track all your interactions with the lead. Once you get the lead closed, and you're in the company, you can keep track of their service contracts and some other things their customer relationship. But the number one thing that it's used for is to exploit the account once you get in. And if you have multiple products to sell, which most businesses do, you want to make sure that a large number of those products are being purchased by your client, the more products purchased by your client, the less likely you are to lose them as a client. Now once we engage with a consulting gig with the client, we would then get into their inventory management, we would get into their finance, best practices, we would start looking at all their loans who are their lenders, is ex is an expansion. A good idea? is an acquisition a better idea? Do they need to go public, there's a lot of different things that you can keep track of. And you can start to tell as you get a universe of clients and a universe of reactions inside salesforce.com or any CRM for that matter. You can start to track whether they're going to be profitable, whether you need to kind of step away from them because they're not profitable. There's a lot of different reasons to

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use CRM. And if you get your Salesforce and your customer relationship force to live inside the CRM, it's an extremely powerful piece of software, you sometimes have to if you have a large number of transactions, you've got to, you know, leverage a business intelligence product, which salesforce.com also sales. And sometimes you have to have a, if you have a large workforce, they have another product, where you can have your workforce and your partner force all communicating together. So let's say that you have that your furniture distributor, you manufacture your furniture, you go to a high point, North Carolina, you buy your furniture there, it gets brought in on in containers or gets built up out in North Carolina, then you can use the salesforce.com CRM to interact with your partners. I know this is all been probably a little bit bland, and maybe a little bit too businessy. But I want to give you an idea of how intertwined a CRM product and a marketing automation product get to be in your daily business, it can cost hundreds of 1000s of dollars for even the smallest company, you know, a three or four or $5 million company to switch units or to switch over from say salesforce.com to Microsoft, what cost about $5,000 with Microsoft cost $10,000 excuse me, 5000 with Salesforce costs $10,000 to do with Microsoft. So usually, if you're a Microsoft shop, you're going to have in the house it if you're a salesforce.com shop, you don't necessarily have to if you're in their small business segment. And let me assure you small businesses, how a lot of people start off with them. salesforce.com started selling into large corporations by getting their Salesforce to personally pay for their subscriptions. So salesforce.com got started, not by getting a small business to do business with them. But an IBM salesman who's frustrated with his products and his follow up techniques going in and saying, hey, I want to, I want to do something and I'm going to spend $45 a month out of my money to be able to keep track of my communications with customers. That's how they started out. They put goldmine out of business goldmine. Back in the late 90s, the early 2000s was the key number one contact relationship, not customer relationship, but contact relationship management software out there. You bought it in any computer store, it was a disk, you put it on your computer, it ran fast, you could keep track of everything. The customization was okay. And you could trigger off some events and make sure that you call people back when you were supposed to. It was $100, maybe 300 for your Microsoft gold or for gold mine gold. So it was a great product. salesforce.com basically has annihilated them, put them out of business. They were my first customer relationship product, we'll use them great. It's just that to run them with a sales team. You had to have a server, there was about $10,000 you had to have a maintenance contract with somebody to keep that server going. You had to have Microsoft's server small business server software, which was what I want to say about

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500 to $1,000. Back then, but that included your email software back in the day, we didn't have all these Hotmail email addresses that you could just do MX record changes and get somebody to host your email. It was a lot more difficult than that you had to have Microsoft Exchange on a server. Microsoft Exchange required a great deal of upkeep. So in order to have Goldmine, you had to have Microsoft Exchange. And in order to have Microsoft Exchange, you had to have a server. So that for you to have goldmine, but it's $1,000 per person. Plus, but that was it. It was all you bought from goldmine, I think you probably paid 10% or 17% a year. And if you were a 1015 person small business with a Salesforce of four or five, you're up and running for $20,000 However, with Salesforce, once they got some group stuff going and they got their reporting down, all you had to pay was 45 to $75 a month, per employee that used it. So you needed less, you know, you needed four or five people, you needed $250 a month. So you had to go 10 years before you got to the same amount of money. And you didn't need Microsoft, you got to where you could host your own email, through GoDaddy, things got a lot cheaper, immediately. And the biggest barrier to entry that Salesforce had was to convince those people with those five, five salespeople, that they could put all their data with salesforce.com. And they could come into work the next day, and that data would still be there, that salesforce.com wasn't going to go out of business and run off with your data, that salesforce.com wasn't going to make some strange, arbitrary decision like they just made and cut you off from your data. Now, I don't know what they did with the RNC because the RNC hasn't really come out and spoken about it. But James O'Keefe with Project Veritas says, Well, he posted a copy of the letter salesforce.com is going to serve out the end of their contract, they're not going to let them expand into any new products during that time. And that they will no longer do business with them after the fact. I suspect that if O'Keefe if Project Veritas is transferring over to another CRM or whatever products they have with Salesforce, I suspect Salesforce will work with them for a few months to get that done as long as you're working in good faith, which so at least Salesforce is following their contract unlike it appears Amazon Web Services did. I guess I'm just really disappointed in Salesforce. First of all, I always thought that they were a very ethical company, even though Marc Benioff was and is a huge democrat supporter, a huge Hillary Clinton supporter, a huge Barack Obama supporter. He seemed to keep things in a recommend or keep things balanced, the way that you would think that a business leader would if he has, you know, a desire for a pet project like Bezos bought the Washington Post, I think you may have already bought something time or Newsweek who knows I don't really care because it had nothing to do with his salesforce.com. And product. Now, this Brett Taylor guy, I'm assuming with Benioff's blessing, I can't see them making such a big move without Benioff signing off on it has decided to just throw out all of this goodwill@salesforce.com had with people like me, people who I knew that they were way left-wing, they're out in San Francisco, you know, they're there, of course, their left-wing. And I knew that Benioff was left-wing, but still, he was one of my most and still is one of my most admired people. And I'm really just disappointed that he has done something to harm a company that people have been coming after since the day he started and he knows it. Leading up is a scrappy fighter. And he has done a great job at fighting off most

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entrees into his business world. You know, one funny story about Benioff is that Oracle world was a huge convention, they probably still have it. Well, maybe not with COVID, but used to all of the Oracle partners, large customers would send their people. And I believe that the Oracle world that was mentioned in his book was out in Shanghai, maybe. I'm not sure about that. It might have been Hong Kong. Anyway, he went to every cab company and posted inside every cab company flyers promoting Salesforce during the Oracle world convention. It was amazing marketing. It's guerilla marketing at its best. It was not expensive at all. It did. I don't even know if it costs $100,000. Today, when you're talking about that kind of marketing, that is not much money at all. So you know, once again, I have great respect for him. And I'm sure that some of the social justice warrior people have led him to what I think will be eventually led him astray. It may not, in the end, lead him astray. We'll see. We will see. Now in part two, I want to get into this minivan crash. That happened. You had 18 people in a minivan or in a an SUV that was designed for eight people to ride in. And that's not really comfortable to do a long trek in so the two SUVs in case you don't know, illegally entered the United States, in California, and they were both packed with people, one had 25 people in it. The other had 18 people in this Labor Day and taking the seats out, they had people just sitting on top of each other. There was nothing safe about it, they had a wreck, I think at last count, and haven't looked a day they had 13 people who had died. And this is the inhumane message that illegal immigration brings to us the human tragedy from these coyotes and drug dealers, there's always one of these are several of these reports. During the summer, we'll find some tractor load of people who were just left and they died, they suffocated and air pipe will have been knocked over some way. Unexpectedly, it just got too hot in there, the driver didn't check on people, or they didn't make sure that they had enough water. And that they, by the time that they pulled over and checked on the people, there was a load of dead people in the truck, and they just go off and leave it. That is why the Democrat's and the Republican's policy on allowing illegal immigration is racist, it is inhumane. And it is cruel. You have a responsibility to the people that you let come into this country, even before they get here if you put a message out to them to come. And then you don't make sure that it's safe for them to get here, then you and you will actually in this case, you know, it's not safe for them to come here, that there's a large number of females that are raped, you have people that are locked up in houses at the end of the trip, even though they may have paid $10,000 or more to the coyote, they still get locked up. Because those are people that now have money and they start torturing those people until they get more money out of their families back home before they're let loose. These are all things that we know are happening. They used to be brought covered quite widely on the news until the democrats decided that they needed new voters. Here's the problem. The from the republic or from the democrat side, these Hispanics, once you get here, and once you establish citizenship in some way, shape, or form. These people are usually anti-illegal immigration, they've grown up with and seen what it does to the people being victimized in by the coyotes. They are, you know, conservative in that they are religious, they want to have self-protection with guns. And they don't believe a lot of the democrat hype about socialism because they've seen more socialist fascist type of dictatorships, but a lot of times that they've fled from. So

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you know, Biden is you know, he's already at a disaster. He doesn't have a meeting without Kamala Harris there. We have a vice president that is every meeting instead of getting their own stuff, doing their own projects work in their own portfolio. She seems to be sitting there to make sure that Biden does whatever Susan Rice and Barack Obama told Biden to do for that day, or his oligarchical cabinet members want him to do for that day. There is a reason that Joe Biden is not doing press conferences. There's a reason that they cut off his YouTube press conference when he said he would ask, take questions. He wasn't supposed to take questions, apparently. We'll get to the bottom of that. He is being made fun of by the staff that he has hired. They know that he is incompetent, they know he's mentally damaged or challenged at the very best. They know that he is completely out of it. And there's a reason why he's doing absolutely zero work, except for signing stuff and about half the time. I don't even know if he knows what's being signed. So, here we go. This is what you voted for. This is what you get. Or at least this is what some people voted For. Lastly, I want to talk about ERCOT. And the state of Texas. A couple of things have happened with the state of Texas, the board for the utility committee, commission that was supposed to make sure something like the freeze and blackouts never happened. Those boards mostly all resigned, the CEO has been terminated. He was making a ridiculous $100,000 a year $800,000 a year to be absolutely incompetent. mean absolutely incompetent. He was spending too much time chasing wine and dining down in Austin, then he should have been taking care of business and he wasn't. And last but not least, Greg Abbott is brave Greg Abbott. And I'm kind of kidding here, as finally killed the mask mandate and the social distancing. The social distancing thing might have should have been cited back in, I don't know. But right now, there's no statistical evidence showing that any of this seems to be working. It may be exacerbating things. Texas has had its schools open since the beginning of the school year. So there's at least that and starting next Wednesday, no more mask, no more social distancing, and business. Hopefully, we'll get back to business. People will start to be getting their jobs back and hopefully, the economy in Texas will start to rebound. The Babylon B I'll link to them. They did a pretty cool satire where they say Ted Abbott really relaxed the mass mandate to run off all the people that had moved here from California. You know, if you're from California, or if you're one of these rich people who want to sit in your house, work remotely, and get on instacart and get a bunch of poor people to bring you your food and do your grocery shopping and run by and pick up your Flogger off from bearings down it at in downtown Dallas, then, you know, you can keep on doing that if you want to. Just don't make the rest of us if we don't want to. Especially not winning you can't point to any scientific data showing that you're correct. Like I told a person today on Twitter. What we learned from their comments are that they are a surface thinker. And that's what democrats and these leftists are. They're surface thinkers. They don't think past. What's obvious. Does a mask work? I don't know. We don't have a study yet. That shows it does. The next podcasts gonna be over the Parlor lawsuit. There have been some developments there. And I think they're good developments. It'll be a long podcast. We're over 30 minutes now. bored you enough about salesforce.com thank God we are free at last in Texas. No more mask mandates no more social distancing. I'll probably still wearing in 95 masks. I've got really bad asthma. So if I'm going to go into someplace, you know, I think the end 95 can actually offer some protection. I don't know how much it is very minimal. There's also seems to be some evidence that wearing the wrong kind of mask for long periods of time can increase your chances for lung cancer.

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I don't have to get out that often. When I do. I will wear a mask just to make myself feel a little better. But that's my decision. That's should not be the government's decision. God bless you. Enjoy your weekend and go fishing. Take your kid. If you don't have a kid. take somebody else. Take care.

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