Podcast - Nicole Atkinson & Nicola Decker - CCG to ICS

The General Practice Podcast

In the latest of our podcast episodes sponsored by Livi, we meet GPs Nicole Atkinson and Nicola Decker, who have similarly considerable experience of working in leadership roles, both within the outgoing Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs), and now within the newer Integrated Care Systems (ICSs), and critically, in supporting and managing the transition within their own local areas. They offer Ben their thoughts on where the main challenges may lie, the lessons they have learned whilst on their own, respective journeys, where we should be focusing our energies and priorities right now, and why they feel general practice (and primary care as a whole) has what it takes to succeed in a wider and a possibly less level playing field.

Intro (9 secs)

Meeting Nicola Decker (1 min 4 secs)

Nicole’s remit and experience (2 mins 5 secs)

…and her take on what ICSs are and how she feels they differ from CCGs (2 mins 45 secs)

Nicola’s views on the newer models of care (4 mins 12 secs)

Organisation of resources, having influence and establishment of a voice within a larger system (5 mins 25 secs)

How do we enable general practice to be an effective partner? (7 mins 40 secs)

The Primary Care Collaborative….at place or system level? (9 mins 53 secs)

Consideration of the task, the ask and the purpose (10 mins 48 secs)

How does Primary Care take ownership and hold their influence across the system? (11 mins 20 secs)

Managing the transition and ensuring that we can be as proactive as possible (13 mins 49 secs)

Has there ever been a better time for general practice to collaborate effectively? (15 mins 7 secs)

Is this a time limited opportunity? (17 mins 27 secs)

Are we united by a shared challenge? (18 mins 10 secs)

Working out where to start (19 mins 45 secs)

A change of mindset and working across boundaries (20 mins 35 secs)

A final word from Nicola (22 mins 46 secs)

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