Treating Emerging Problem Behavior with the BALANCE Program: Session 164 with Kelsey Ruppel


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Earlier this summer I had the chance to chat with Dr. Kelsey Ruppel, who is a Senior Consultant and the Director of Operations at FTF Behavioral Consulting. After I stopped getting tongue-tied in the introduction, we were able to cover a wide variety of topics, including:

  • How she got into ABA.
  • Pro-tips for remote consultation.
  • A quick review of the Preschool Life Skills curriculum.
  • Her research on addressing emerging problem behaviors, i.e., the development of the BALANCE program.
  • More pro-tips: How to speed up the Skills-Based Treatment Process.
  • What Kelsey plans to talk about at the upcoming Stone Soup Conference.
  • And what is meant by the term, "Gray Reinforcement."

In short, this interview has tons of practical tips for everyday BCBA's, and I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as I did.

Here are some links to what we discussed:

This episode is brought to you with the support of the following:

  • The 2021 Stone Soup Conference! I challenge you to find a better CEU value in any virtual conference out there. With pod faves like Drs. Linda LeBlanc, Dithu Rajaraman, Jim Moore, Kerri Milyko, and more, there's something for everyone at this event. Use promo code PODCAST to save even more at checkout! Click here for additional details.
  • The 2021 New Hampshire ABA Conference! If you're in New England on September 11th, 2021, take the short drive to beautiful Concord, NH to attend this year's event. If you're not local to the region, don't worry, the event is available virtually as well! This year's program features both clinical and business tracks, a free lunch, an afternoon ice cream social, oh, and there will be great talks too, including Drs. Kelsey Ruppel, Paulie Gavoni, Byron Wine, Peter Gerhardt, Antonio Harrison, and more! Go to, and click the conference tab for details. While you're there, use the promo code Matt2021 to save at checkout.
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