Glenn Greenwald: Defund Israel and Free Assange

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Today's guest is maverick journalist Glenn Greenwald, whose work publicizing Edward Snowden's revelations of ubiquitous and illegal surveillance of Americans helped The Guardian win a Pulitzer Prize. Greenwald now hosts the nightly news show System Update on Rumble and maintains an active presence on X (formerly Twitter). Reason's Nick Gillespie and Greenwald talked about the failing fortunes of The Intercept, the investigative website he co-founded in 2014 and had an acrimonious break with in 2020, the Israel/Gaza War, student protests on campuses, legacy media's obsession with disinformation ad Russian interference in the 2016 election, and whether a victory by President Joe Biden or Donald Trump would be worse for America—and the world. This interview was conducted before a live audience in New York City, a day after Greenwald debated Alan Dershowitz at the Soho Forum about whether the United States should attack Iran's nuclear program. 0:00— Introduction 1:10— The Intercept: the trajectory from Snowden reporting to crying emojis 7:09— Trump v Clinton and Biden 11:57— Julian Assange and Wikileaks 21:10— Rumble and decentralized media26:25— Greenwald's journalistic origin story 29:26— College students protests 37:28— Greenwald's Jewish heritage 39:53— What's going on in Gaza? 45:58— Greenwald's foreign policy positions 51:50— Latin American: Milei, Lula, an Bukele 58:50— Drug policy 1:03:18— 2024 Biden vs. Trump election 1:07:00- Audience Q&A Previous appearances: Glenn Greenwald: Tucker Carlson, Left-Wing Authoritarians, Identity Politics, and Free Speech, July 20, 2022 Glenn Greenwald on Biden, Free Speech, and Leaving The Intercept, November 27, 2020 Glenn Greenwald on Wikileaks, Russian Hacking, and Distrusting Legacy Media and U.S. Intel, January 16, 2017 Glenn Greenwald on Drug Decriminalization in Portugal and Obama's Iffy Take on Civil Liberties, April 13, 2009 Today's Sponsor: Better Help. When you're at your best, you can do great things. But sometimes life gets you bogged down, and you may feel overwhelmed or like you're not showing up in the way that you want to. Working with a therapist can help you get closer to the best version of you—because when you feel empowered, you're more prepared to take on everything life throws at you. If you're thinking of giving therapy a try, Better Help is a great option. It's convenient, flexible, affordable, and entirely online. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed therapist, and switch therapists anytime for no additional charge. If you want to live a more empowered life, therapy can get you there. Visit BetterHelp.com/TRI today to get 10 percent off your first month.