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MBA#22 Marnix ten Kortenaar | Conversation about batteries, water, desalination, upscaling, doing visibility studies, realisme, future battery demand, hydrogen and religion

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Masters of Beautiful Achievements에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Masters of Beautiful Achievements 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.

A conversation with Marnix ten Kortenaar (trained as Physical Chemist from the TUDelft) about batteries, water, desalination, upscaling, doing visibility studies, realisme, future battery demand, hydrogen and religion. And how it turns out that salt is in some way our cradle to life and has so much more to offer than we realize.

It is important to understand that the future trend for easy extractable lithium to sustain the demand will become scarce thus increasing the cost of lithium batteries from around 2030. Therefore there is a worldwide effort to find alternative battery salts to sustain the electrification demand.

There is in increasing demand for low density electron storage system to overcome some of the lithium shortcomings.

It turns out sea salt batteries are an interesting addition to the battery mix. Also because of the potential to use existing sea salt waste streams from seawater desalination plants and hydrogen production. Making it a possible contender to complete with the lithium and lead acid battries. Yet the road to full industrialization and upscaling of these type of sodium batteries have a steep hill to climb before it becomes business as usual.

Its a densely packed conversation, so find a comfortable place to listen to their insights.

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This podcast is based on the Value 4 Value (Adem Curry) / gift economy (Charles Eisenstein) / Pay what you want model
That means when you enjoy the conversation you can decide if you want to pay with something of value.
This can be a monetary value as a donation or membership or something different.

Here are some options to support this podcast
⁠= Gumroad or book even a 1:1 conversation. ⁠⁠⁠
= Patron
⁠⁠⁠= Buy me a coffee ⁠⁠⁠
= Donate directly via my website
= Or something else, like helping me with the podcast or other topics I havenot thought of

I thank you for your support ⁠and enjoy the conversation⁠⁠
----------------------------------------------- As it turns out Lithium batteries cannot cope with high temperatures and direct sunlight's.
And these lithium batteries require software and electronics for it to function, which is not so useful when knowledge and hardware is not readily available when they breakdown.
In addition one cannot discharge Lithium and Lead Acid batteries 100% otherwise they battery will break.
As a result we are only using only around half of the battery capacity to ensure an optimal battery life. It seems to be a very inefficient process.
One needs electronics (like inverters) to be able to directly connect solar panels to Lithium and Lead Acid batteries, as there is a voltage difference between the panel and battery.
The upside of Lithium as battery salt is that it has a low density making it ideal to be a high density electron storage option.
Yet is can only discharge 1 electron at a time while other salts can do 2 times or more.
read more here - https://mastersofbeautifulachievements.com/podcast/ ----------------------------------------------- The Masters of Beautiful Achievements podcast series is where Alexander Prinsen explores natural science, innovation, systems thinking and leadership. As systemic innovation consul at scopematters.com he helps organizations accelerate to save costs, do good and operate within the planetary boundaries.

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Masters of Beautiful Achievements에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 Masters of Beautiful Achievements 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.

A conversation with Marnix ten Kortenaar (trained as Physical Chemist from the TUDelft) about batteries, water, desalination, upscaling, doing visibility studies, realisme, future battery demand, hydrogen and religion. And how it turns out that salt is in some way our cradle to life and has so much more to offer than we realize.

It is important to understand that the future trend for easy extractable lithium to sustain the demand will become scarce thus increasing the cost of lithium batteries from around 2030. Therefore there is a worldwide effort to find alternative battery salts to sustain the electrification demand.

There is in increasing demand for low density electron storage system to overcome some of the lithium shortcomings.

It turns out sea salt batteries are an interesting addition to the battery mix. Also because of the potential to use existing sea salt waste streams from seawater desalination plants and hydrogen production. Making it a possible contender to complete with the lithium and lead acid battries. Yet the road to full industrialization and upscaling of these type of sodium batteries have a steep hill to climb before it becomes business as usual.

Its a densely packed conversation, so find a comfortable place to listen to their insights.

-----------------------------------------------

This podcast is based on the Value 4 Value (Adem Curry) / gift economy (Charles Eisenstein) / Pay what you want model
That means when you enjoy the conversation you can decide if you want to pay with something of value.
This can be a monetary value as a donation or membership or something different.

Here are some options to support this podcast
⁠= Gumroad or book even a 1:1 conversation. ⁠⁠⁠
= Patron
⁠⁠⁠= Buy me a coffee ⁠⁠⁠
= Donate directly via my website
= Or something else, like helping me with the podcast or other topics I havenot thought of

I thank you for your support ⁠and enjoy the conversation⁠⁠
----------------------------------------------- As it turns out Lithium batteries cannot cope with high temperatures and direct sunlight's.
And these lithium batteries require software and electronics for it to function, which is not so useful when knowledge and hardware is not readily available when they breakdown.
In addition one cannot discharge Lithium and Lead Acid batteries 100% otherwise they battery will break.
As a result we are only using only around half of the battery capacity to ensure an optimal battery life. It seems to be a very inefficient process.
One needs electronics (like inverters) to be able to directly connect solar panels to Lithium and Lead Acid batteries, as there is a voltage difference between the panel and battery.
The upside of Lithium as battery salt is that it has a low density making it ideal to be a high density electron storage option.
Yet is can only discharge 1 electron at a time while other salts can do 2 times or more.
read more here - https://mastersofbeautifulachievements.com/podcast/ ----------------------------------------------- The Masters of Beautiful Achievements podcast series is where Alexander Prinsen explores natural science, innovation, systems thinking and leadership. As systemic innovation consul at scopematters.com he helps organizations accelerate to save costs, do good and operate within the planetary boundaries.

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