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Advocate for the Developers – Jonas Rosland – Ep 72

 
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John Mark Troyer – The Geek Whisperers에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 John Mark Troyer – The Geek Whisperers 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
Jonas Rosland, Developer Evangelist
Jonas Rosland, Developer Evangelist

How do you get developers interested in your product? This week we talk with Jonas Rosland, a developer advocate for EMC’s new CODE group.

  • Listening vs Talking
  • How does working with Developer differ from working with Sysadmins?
  • Why are developers “weird” if you’ve been talking with Sysadmins?
  • Emphasizing creativity – what you can make with this – over stability
  • Unfinished things over finished things
  • How does it work, not how much does it costs
  • Where do developer relations go in the org chart?
  • What kind of metrics do developer relations groups use to measure how successful they are?
  • Making yourself uncomfortable – meeting new people
  • IT admins are becoming more and more comfortable with code and scripting.
  • Getting your code out there is critical – often on github, but it could be elsewhere
  • Where are the developers located?
  • They’re not at VMworld – you must go to their meetups
  • Go to the metopes about things you are interested in – you may meet people who are interested in your stuff too <- This, to me, was the biggest and most obvious in retrospect but practical tactic we talked about in the podcast. Of course there are no meetups on your product yet – go to other meetups and find people who might have mutual interests.
  • But you never know – you have to go to different kinds of events and try and see and make mistakes.
  • It’s about putting other people up on stage
  • Using the word advocate vs evangelist – you advocate for someone else – the developer – vs evangelizing – tell them your message – this is the most important principle we talked about.

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When? This feed was archived on August 02, 2022 00:09 (1+ y ago). Last successful fetch was on April 07, 2020 16:24 (4y ago)

Why? 피드 비활성화 status. 잠시 서버에 문제가 발생해 팟캐스트를 불러오지 못합니다.

What now? You might be able to find a more up-to-date version using the search function. This series will no longer be checked for updates. If you believe this to be in error, please check if the publisher's feed link below is valid and contact support to request the feed be restored or if you have any other concerns about this.

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John Mark Troyer – The Geek Whisperers에서 제공하는 콘텐츠입니다. 에피소드, 그래픽, 팟캐스트 설명을 포함한 모든 팟캐스트 콘텐츠는 John Mark Troyer – The Geek Whisperers 또는 해당 팟캐스트 플랫폼 파트너가 직접 업로드하고 제공합니다. 누군가가 귀하의 허락 없이 귀하의 저작물을 사용하고 있다고 생각되는 경우 여기에 설명된 절차를 따르실 수 있습니다 https://ko.player.fm/legal.
Jonas Rosland, Developer Evangelist
Jonas Rosland, Developer Evangelist

How do you get developers interested in your product? This week we talk with Jonas Rosland, a developer advocate for EMC’s new CODE group.

  • Listening vs Talking
  • How does working with Developer differ from working with Sysadmins?
  • Why are developers “weird” if you’ve been talking with Sysadmins?
  • Emphasizing creativity – what you can make with this – over stability
  • Unfinished things over finished things
  • How does it work, not how much does it costs
  • Where do developer relations go in the org chart?
  • What kind of metrics do developer relations groups use to measure how successful they are?
  • Making yourself uncomfortable – meeting new people
  • IT admins are becoming more and more comfortable with code and scripting.
  • Getting your code out there is critical – often on github, but it could be elsewhere
  • Where are the developers located?
  • They’re not at VMworld – you must go to their meetups
  • Go to the metopes about things you are interested in – you may meet people who are interested in your stuff too <- This, to me, was the biggest and most obvious in retrospect but practical tactic we talked about in the podcast. Of course there are no meetups on your product yet – go to other meetups and find people who might have mutual interests.
  • But you never know – you have to go to different kinds of events and try and see and make mistakes.
  • It’s about putting other people up on stage
  • Using the word advocate vs evangelist – you advocate for someone else – the developer – vs evangelizing – tell them your message – this is the most important principle we talked about.

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