Grierson and Leitch Conversations: Jeb Lund, Thanksgiving 2021


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Every year for, jeez, about a decade now, on a variety of different podcasts, author and podcaster Jeb Lund has joined Will to talk about the state of the world, and stuffing, on Thanksgiving. This is this year's conversation. This show was produced by Jeb, which is why it sounds good. His show notes are below.

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

Thanks to Dylan Mayer and My Friend Mary, both of which are wonderful, for the music.

We hope you enjoy. Let us know what you think @griersonleitch on Twitter, or As always, give us a review on iTunes with the name of a movie you'd like us to review, and we'll discuss it on a later podcast.

Jeb's Show Notes.

TEASER: Thanksgiving, 2031: A Reckoning

Everyone's not murdered, and nothing is magnetic ...

THEME: "Dead Man's Party," by Oingo Boingo

PART ONE: All Our Troubles Are Gone

Welcome back to Will Leitch ... No plugs ... Vaccinated child blood ... Mask affinity ... Can there be a pandemic off-ramp? ... Torn pandemic bicep ... You just have a bad body now ... Without shared struggle, there is no shared victory ... We can't personally police anybody ... A segregated society ... Disproportionate political minority-opinion representation ... But vaccination won! ... Residual Covid resentment ... Unvaccinated, disconnected cousin ... Most people are disengaged and normal for it ...

Original music by Chris Collingwood

PART TWO: Scoreboard!

Normalcy's inertia over Covid ... Bret Stephens, noted herb ... Trump and the Power of Positive Thinking ... Placebo effect ... Road Runner mentality vs. Coyote mentality ... Everyone's just tryin', man ... Fighting the monoculture vs. creating the multiculture ... Eight people talking in Slack ... Labor Day, the film ... Thanksgiving pandemic antagonism ... Sibling to blame ... A more severable externalized slight ... Polio ... Nobody's magnetic or sterile! ... Family division feeding grievance politics ...

Original music by Chris Collingwood

PART THREE: Hot Vaxgiving

What are we doing for Thanksgiving? ... Died before every Thanksgiving ... We are here, and it is enough ... Bringing back all the old favorites ... The dead optimism of June ... False hope for a V-E Day ... Next years pandemic conversation percentage ... Growing stunted by the pandemic ... I'm not your boyfriend ...

All other music by Chris Collingwood of Look Park and Fountains of Wayne, except: "Orchestral Sports Theme" by Chris Collingwood and Rick Murnane.

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