Finding the Throughline: Conversations about the Creative Process invites you into the minds of writers and other creatives as they open up about their process, their doubts, and what kinds of changes they’re thinking about making. The questions are mildly invasive, honestly, and the answers are unvarnished…and so refreshing! Whether your creative work is writing, painting, making music, parenting, or simply living, Finding the Throughline can help you get—and stay—inspired. Invigorated, eve ...
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[Joanne McNeil, inner stuff]: Owning your outsider status + “doing what I can do with with the tools that I have” Ep 1069
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In this episode I'm talking with Joanne McNeil, author of Wrong Way (a novel set in the near future at a company that manages driverless cars) and Lurking (a non-fiction look at the history of the internet from a user’s perspective), about the inner workings of creativity–the thoughts, ideas, and beliefs that either help you do your work, or get in…
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[Joanne McNeil, practical matters]: On finding your ambition and building your own opportunities + a Trader Joe’s shopping list for fueling your writing Ep 1068
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This week I am talking with journalist, essayist, and novelist, Joanne McNeil. Joanne's first novel Wrong Way came out in 2023. It's a sci-fi novel set in the near future that takes a look at the intersection of the gig economy and big tech and is both satirical and touching–it also made a lot of lists of the best books of 2023 and The New Yorker c…
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[Hayley Krischer: What’s coming up]: What she’s recently learned about understanding her character’s psyches + the incredible allure of hot tubs Ep 1067
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In this final part of my interview with Hayley Krischer, journalist and author of the soon-to-be-released “Where Are You, Echo Blue?” we peek at what’s coming around the bend for her and I get her answers to my fast five questions. We talked about: The incredible allure of hot tubs How re-watching “The Actor’s Studio with James Lipton” was a key pa…
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[Hayley Krischer, inner stuff]: True confessions about how “horrible” writing can feel + why–and how–she wrote her next novel in longhand Ep 1066
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In this episode I'm talking with Hayley Krischer, author of the upcoming “Where Are You, Echo Blue?”, which is poised to be the beach read of the summer, about the squishier side of creativity– including: The steps Hayley takes–and the tools she uses–to immerse herself in the world of her novels and inside her characters’ psyches What she does when…
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[Hayley Krischer, Practical Matters]: The power of just keeping going + how to capture those great ideas that come when you’re not at your desk Ep 1065
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This week I am talking with journalist and novelist Haley Krischer. Haley's journalism has won awards and appeared in the New York Times, the New York Times Magazine, the Atlantic, and Elle, among other places. She has profiled celebrities like Tatum O'Neill and Celine Dion and Gabrielle Union, and she's reported on trends through a feminist lens. …
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[Jennifer Fink: What’s coming up]: The lure of leaving it all behind and becoming a flight attendant + the Post-It note sayings that light the path Ep 1064
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In part three of my conversation with author of Building Boys, Jennifer Fink, we talk about the mind trip that is beginning to envision retirement. I have to point out that this is the third interview in a row where my guest mentions that they have a phrase written on a Post-It note hanging above their computer monitor. In addition to sharing what …
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[Jennifer Fink, inner stuff]: Dealing with internalized trolls + aqua aerobics! Ep 1063
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In this episode I'm talking with Jennifer about the squishier side of creativity–the thoughts, ideas, and attitudes that affect your work, even if you're not fully conscious of it, including: Finding the inspiration to write about controversial subjects in today’s age of nasty comments and trolling Jennifer’s trick for keeping herself accountable a…
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[Jennifer Fink, Practical Matters]: Writing what you know + the book she found at the library that launched her writing career EP 1062
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Today I am talking with Jennifer Fink, an award winning freelance writer who covers parenting, education, and health for magazines and websites. started her career as a registered nurse, but shortly after her oldest son, and as you'll find out, she has four boys, pivoted to writing full time. Her most recent book is called Building Boys, Raising Gr…
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[Antonia Angress: What’s coming up]: “I aspire to get to a place where I can be a hermit and let my work stand on its own” Ep 1061
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In this final part of my interview with Antonia Angress, author of "Sirens & Muses," we peek at what’s coming around the bend for her and I get her answers to my fast five questions. We talked about: - The novels about motherhood Antonia is reading to prepare for when her baby is born - The pressure on young women authors to be likable, available, …
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[Antonia Angress, inner stuff]: Throwing away the work that isn’t working + adapting to the public speaking side of being a writer Ep 1060
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In this episode I'm talking with Antonia about the squishier side of creativity–the thoughts, ideas, and attitudes that affect your work, even if you're not fully conscious of it, including: - The part of the writing process that Antonia relishes - The specific point in the book-writing process where Antonia focuses on making her sentences pretty -…
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[Antonia Angress, Practical Matters]: The self-doubt that never goes away, and how to keep writing despite it Ep 1059
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This week I am talking to writer Antonia Angress. Antonia is the author of "Sirens & Muses," which starts off as a campus novel set at a New England art school, but then blooms into an exploration of the intersection of home and belonging versus individualism and seeking to stand out, set in the New York City art scene during the Occupy Wall Street…
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[Daisy Alpert Florin, what’s coming up]: “I really do feel that having done the work of raising kids that now really anything is possible for me.” Ep 1058
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In this final part of my interview with Daisy Alpert Florin, author of My Last Innocent Year, we peek at what’s coming around the bend for her and I get her answers to my fast five questions. We talked about: The mega pop star who makes Daisy “want to get back to the page” Daisy’s role models who show her how to “just keep getting up and keep going…
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[Daisy Alpert Florin, inner stuff]: “Cloaking yourself” in fiction + getting over the idea that you don’t have the right pedigree Ep 1057
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In today’s portion of my interview with Daisy Alpert Florin, author of My Last Innocent Year, we talk about the mindset side of creating. (Honestly, these are always my favorite episodes!) We covered: How you can “cloak” your story by writing fiction–incorporating the feelings of things you’ve experienced if not the exact experiences themselves Wor…
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[Daisy Alpert Florin, practical matters]: “Writing in to the abyss,” setting “super low goals” + finding your rhythm Ep 1056
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Daisy Alpert Florin, author of a book I truly adored, My Last Innocent Year, about a young woman in her last year of college, which is recently out in paperbook and–hot tip–would make an excellent book group pick. My Last Innocent Year was a New York Times Book Reviews Editor's Choice and Good Morning America called it one of those stories that sta…
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[Nada Samih-Rotondo, part 3]: The joy of going down a research wormhole, a preview of her second memoir ) + matcha latte mustaches Ep 1055
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A preview of her second memoir, which has a central theme of earthquakes, both the geological variety and the personal kind (it sounds amazing I cannot wait) The allure of folk tales and fairy tales The joy of going down a research wormhole Nada’s current wormholes–turtle migration, and early African-American history in Rhode Island Getting over th…
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[Nada Samih-Rotondo, part 2]: Reader feedback as creative rocketfuel, being the only Arab-American kid around + astrology talk! Ep 1054
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In this episode I'm talking with Netta about what I call inner stuff, the thoughts, ideas, and attitudes that affect your work, even if you're not fully conscious of it, including: The process of her least favorite part of writing (sharing her work) becoming her most favorite part The type of reader feedback that fills her heart and lights her up a…
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[Nada Samih-Rotondo, part 1]: Writing by feeling vs. knowing, pandemic productivity + the importance of getting out of the house Ep 1053
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Nada Samih-Rotondo is a multi-genre Palestinian-American writer, teacher, and mother, who recently published her first book, a memoir called All Water Has Perfect Memory. Born in Kuwait to Palestinian parents, Nada immigrated to the U.S. at the age of six to Rhode Island. Her work has been published in the The Master's Review, Squat! Birth Journal,…
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[Chelsey Goodan, part 3: Owning your weird self as a way to find your people and your path] Ep 1052
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In this final installment of my talk with Chelsey Goodan, author of Underestimated: The Wisdom and Power of Teenage Girls, we talk a lot about the many, many perks of embracing your particular brand of weirdness, as well as: The power of friends to keep you inspired What teens AND adults can do to find their people and make meaningful friendships T…
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[Chelsey Goodan, part 2: Balancing ambition with knowing you’re already enough + a super helpful skill-assessment tool] Ep 1051
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In part 2 of my interview with Chelsey Goodan, author of Underestimated: The Wisdom and Power of Teenage Girls, we really break down the inner parts of writing, including how to be OK with the fact that people may misunderstand you. Other things we cover: The mistake most well-intentioned parents make How Chelsey deals with her biggest fear about h…
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[Chelsey Goodan], part 1: What teens really need from adults + keeping track of inspired ideas + the most delightful way to meditate Ep 1050
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This week I’m talking with Chelsey Goodan, author, keynote speaker, and screenwriter whose new book Underestimated: The Wisdom and Power of Teenage Girls is coming out any minute now! As the mom of a 16-year-old girl, I just didn’t even think twice about inviting Chelsey on to Finding the Throughline. I literally read the title of her book and was …
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[Sarah Montana, Part 3]: The art of the ask, finding the right role models, and “horn-y” music Ep 1049
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In this final installment of interview with memoirist, speaker, and screenwriter Sarah Montana, we dive into where’s she’s headed–who her role models are, what’s perking up her ears, and how she’s taking what she learned as an advocate on the front lines in the writer’s strike and applying it to her own career. Why Sarah no longer has role models, …
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[Sarah Montana, Part 2]: The good and the bad of sharing your traumatic stories + the mindbending messages in Britney Spears’s memoir Ep 1048
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Heads up: In this second part of my interview with screenwriter Sarah Montana, we discuss trauma and suicide, so please take care while listening. Even without those discussions, in this episode Sarah goes deep into some major truths about life and you probably don’t want to be listening while you’re doing chores or around other people so you can l…
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[Sarah Montana, Part 1]: Balancing consistency with adaptability + a genius yet still loosey-goosey alternative to meal planning Ep 1047
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This week I'm talking with Sarah Montana, a screenwriter, speaker, writer, and–fun fact!--trained opera singer. Sarah has written multiple movies for the Hallmark Channel, including Rescuing Christmas, Love to the Rescue, and A New Year's Resolution. Her TEDx talk, “The real risk of forgiveness and why it's worth it” is one of my favorite TED talks…
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[Minda Honey, Part 3]: Embracing the strengths of being a Black writer + braided essays + MANY awesome book and music recs Ep 1046
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In this final installment of my talk with author and essayist Minda Honey, we cover: The insights–on double consciousness, omniscience, and overlapping timelines–she got at a recent conference How Andre 3000’s new flute album is cracking open possibilities in her mind The concept of a braided essay, and how it’s like making a charcuterie board The …
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[Minda Honey, Part 2]: Avoiding “self-exploitation” + countering the voices, external and internal, that criticize your work Ep 1045
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In part 2 of my interview with essayist and author of the memoir The Heartbreak Years, Minda Honey, we really break down the inner parts of writing, including how to stay focused on the impact your work is having when all some people want to do is complain. Other things we cover: How an earlier school of personal essays bordered into too personal, …
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[Minda Honey, Part 1]: Answering the call to write + the right beverages are everything Ep 1044
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Minda Honey is the author of The Heartbreak Years, a hilarious and intimate memoir of a Black woman finding who she is and who she wants to be, one bad date at a time. Minda's essays on politics and relationships have appeared in all kinds of amazing places, including Harper's Bazaar, the Los Angeles Review of Books, The Washington Post, The Guardi…
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[Jodie Noel Vinson, Part 3]: Saying your big dreams out loud + so many awesome reading recommendations Ep 1043
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In this final installment of my interview with Jodie Noel Vinson, she spills the deets on her favorite writers and books and how - Inspiring figures from history who were chronically ill, including Florence Nightengale and Charles Darwin–lightbulb moment! - I gush about the memoir Easy Beauty, by Chloe Cooper Jones–one of my top reads of 2022 (now …
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[Jodie Noel Vinson, Part 2]: Claiming the title "writer" + acknowledging your privilege Ep1042
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In part 2 of my interview with essayist Jodie Noel Vinson, we talk about the squishier side of doing creative work, including: - How no one wants to claim the term “writer”, and what Jodie has to say about that. - How turning 30 was a bigger deal for Jodie than turning 40 (which she recently did) - Why Jodie reads Proust over and and over, and it’s…
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[Jodie Noel Vinson, Part 1]: Saving time to stare at the sky + turning challenges into muses Ep 1041
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Jodie Noel Vinson is an essayist whose work has appeared in The New York Times, Harvard Review, Literary Hub, and Ploughshares. Her essays have received honorable mention in the annual Best American Essay anthologies, and she's won multiple awards and residencies, including the Susan Adefat Prize for Creative Nonfiction from Arts and Letters and th…
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[Terri Trespicio: Part 3]: The hunger for downtime is real + tons of book, show, and food recommendations (including, meat snacks!) Ep 1040
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In the final installment of my interview with Terri Trespicio, she shares the books, shows, and people she can’t get enough of who inspire her. Plus, she answers the fast five questions despite having a moment of panic that she wouldn’t be able to think of anything to say. - How she loves poking holes in the silly things we tell ourselves (like her…
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[Terri Trespicio, Part 2]: Getting better at “trembling in the face of resistance” + the unhelpful and helpful thing her Catholic upbringing taught her Ep 1039
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In part 2 of interview with author of Unfollow Your Passion, TedX speaker, and standup comedian Terri Trespicio, we break down: - The difference between easy and ease - How Terri’s Catholic upbringing contributed to her recurring critical thoughts, and also what it taught her about how to get past them - A ninja trick for where to place your focus …
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[Terri Trespicio, Part 1]: Terri’s ingredients for getting kickass creative work done: naps, robes, and thinking about butterflies Ep 1038
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Terri Trespicio is the author of the fabulously helpful and hopeful book, Unfollow Your Passion: How to Create a Life That Matters to You, which was named one of the best feel-good reads of the year by the Washington Post. Her book is based on her TEDx talk, which is called Stop Searching for Your Passion and has been viewed 8 million times. Terri …
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[Leigh Medeiros: Part 3]: Expanding your capacity + the podcasts and social media accounts giving Leigh life Ep 1037
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In the final installment of my interview with Leigh Medeiros, we talk about her most delightful visions of the future, who inspires her, and exactly what happens in her cacao ceremonies. Why Leigh finds many social media videos incredibly inspirational The importance of expanding your capacity Why she loves learning from drag queens Which social me…
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[Leigh Medeiros, Part 2]: A hilarious–and relatable–story about second-guessing your work + the pep talk for making art I didn’t know I needed Ep 1036
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Why it’s crucial that you share your work without disclaiming it The screenplay she almost gave up on because her inner critic was going bananas—a hilarious and so relatable story Why it matters that you pursue your art (prepare to shed a tear or two) For detailed show notes, with links to everything we discuss--plus bonus photos!-- visit katehanle…
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[Leigh Medeiros, Part 1]: The power of figuring out your own Venn diagram of interests + some pretty awesome attention hacks Ep 1035
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Lee Medeiros is an award-winning screenwriter, author, and all-around creative who, when she isn't making her own work, is helping others make theirs. Leigh is the author of the One Minute Writer, 396 Micro Prompts to Spark Creativity and Recharge Your Writing. She also writes a column for Script Magazine called The Climate Screenwriter, is the co-…
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[Tracey Lewis-Giggets: What's next]: The bittersweet healing of parenting + thinking about legacy + learning from Toni Morrison Ep1034
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In the final installment of my interview with Tracey Michae'l Lewis-Giggets, we talk about her most delightful visions of the future, who inspires her, and what she's staying up too late reading (or in this case, listening to). My biggest takeaway was how Tracey focuses on one primary topic--joy--but then spins it in to a lot of different direction…
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[Tracey Lewis-Giggets, Inner Stuff]: Dealing with inner meanies and acknowledging the gifts of rejection Ep1033
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In part two of my interview with Tracey Michae'l Lewis-Giggets, award-winning author of 21 books, including "Black Joy" and "Then They Came for Mine," we plumb the depths of her mind, including: - What's it like to be writing for a larger audience--the good and the bad parts - The things her inner critic loves to tell her - What's it like to be wri…
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[Tracey Lewis-Giggets, Practical Matters]: The rules she once taught that now breaks + a writing hack for when the words won't flow Ep 1032
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Tracey Michae'l Lewis-Giggets is the author of 21 BOOKS, Y'ALL--more than one of them have won awards, including her two most recent: "Black Joy" and "Then They Came for Mine." In this episode, Tracey shares a ton of particulars, or what she called before we started recording her "cheat codes": - How considering herself a storyteller instead of a m…
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[Sari Botton: What's next]: The magic combination of reverence and irreverence. Ep 1031
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In the final installment of my interview with generous and prolific writing goddess Sari Botton (she publishes Oldster Magazine, Memoir Land, and Adventures in Journalism on Substack, authored And You May Find Yourself: Confessions of a Late-Blooming Gen X Weirdo, Goodbye to All That, and Never Can Say Goodbye, and was the essays editor at Longread…
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[Sari Botton, Inner Stuff]: Bucket lists, the subconscious desire for permission, and clogs. Ep 1030
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In part two of my interview with Sari Botton, founder of Oldster Magazine and author of And You May Find Yourself: Confessions of a Gen X Weirdo, we dive deep into the inner stuff, including: - Her favorite part of sharing her work with the world - How she navigates the ethics of including other people in her personal writing - How her inner critic…
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[Sari Botton, Practical Matters]: The power of curiosity, offhand comments, and writing stuff you've already done on your to-do list. Ep 1029
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[Sari Botton, Practical Matters]: The power of curiosity, offhand comments, and writing stuff you've already done on your to-do list This seed of the idea for Finding the Throughline: Conversations about the Creative Process, was first dropped by Sari Botton in her Substack publication Oldster Magazine—specifically, it was her Oldster Magazine Ques…
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Out with the Old, In with the New (A Eulogy and a Look Ahead) Ep 1028
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You may have noticed, I have been rebroadcasting old episodes of How to Be a Better Person since May. I want to tell you a little bit about what’s been going on. Here's the Cliffs Notes version: I'm ending How to Be a Better Person. And starting a new show--which will appear here, in this same feed, starting January 15th--called Finding the Through…
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[Things to Do Less]: Honey, You Don’t Need Fixing, Ep 1027
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That might seem like a mixed message, coming from a podcast called How to Be a Better Person. Just to be clear, I don’t want you to be a different person. Just to help you be that version of yourself that you know is in there, and that can get overlooked when we’re busy, or stressed, or distracted. It’s not fixing we’re after here. It’s remembering…
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[Things to Do Less]: Being Nice Is (Way) Overrated, Ep 1026
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Despite the fact that women have been socialized to be nice above all else, it's not actually a very noble goal, as my co-host this week, Terri Trespicio, breaks down today. Does that mean you should go out and let your a-hole flag fly? Or become outright mean? Goodness, no. It just means you set your sights on something different--something that t…
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[Things to Do Less]: The Case Against Making Plans, Ep 1025
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Today’s surprising strategy for a better new year is to Un-plan Your Life. Which, depending on how much of a planner you are, may sound like just a completely ludicrous idea. BUT, as this week's co-host, Terri Trespicio, will talk us through--plans change all the time. Multiple times. And sometimes, even when your plans work out, you've put so much…
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You can be generous in some ways, and stingy in others. And it’s really fascinating to start to unpack where you are a natural giver, and where you might be more likely to freeze up and think, oh heck no. Maybe those are areas that you can think about differently and find your way to feeling more generous, but maybe those are just things that don’t…
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While giving is often energizing, there are definitely times when it’s draining. Or even upsetting. It can leave you feeling taken advantage of, or unappreciated. And that doesn’t feel good. In addition, sometimes *your* giving can make the person you’re trying to give to feel bad--micromanaged, or like you think they aren’t capable. So today, let’…
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[Generosity]: How Being Generous to Others Benefits YOU, Ep. 1022
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When you think of what being a better person means, I’m guessing that being generous is one of the first things that pops to mind. BUT, that’s not to say that we have to be 100% selfless, or always put others first, or give until it hurts. So, how do we find that balance? Let’s start by looking at the benefits of being generous–not for the other pe…
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I get that there is a lot of work that goes into holiday celebrations and it is so natural and tempting to kind of groan your way through them or talk about how you hate them. You may not feel 100% at peace with all the stuff you’ve got to do all the time, but even just remembering that you could choose to accept that this is just part of it can he…
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