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Joining the show this week is author, podcaster, and revolution starter, Cindy Wang Brandt! (https://cindywangbrandt.com) Cindy has stirred up all sorts of good, holy trouble in the world of parenting--specifically as it relates to trying to raise children without the baggage of religious fundamentalism. We (Kate & Colby) can't get enough of import…
 
Our favorite painter/digital artist, Scott Erickson (@scottthepainter) joins us LIVE to share his heart for making new imagery, new symbols, to express a type of Christianity that is more generous, compassionate, and just. Plus, we laugh a lot, because we’ve known Scott for years and his presence is like a cozy blanket and hot tea for our souls. We…
 
LGBTQ Coach and Sexual Revolutionist, Coach Yeamah joined the show and absolutely made our day (week? month?!). Phew, so good. We promise, you’ve never heard someone so liberated, so free, and so passionate as Coach. She is insistent (and persuasive) about the truth that God made us to feel good—and that’s a premise that we here at The Kate & Colby…
 
Desert Voices podcast is all about sparking curiosity and boldly exploring spirituality, all for the sake of contributing to human flourishing. So, you know, small goals. 🤣 While the co-hosts (Shaleen Kendrick and Holland Fields) of the podcast excel at hosting fabulous conversations on their pod, they also are building out a massive resource hub o…
 
Lauren DeLeary and Adam Frost used to be aaaallll the way in the world of Christian (Evangelical) music... and, well, NOW THEY A'INT! Now, they want to help start or continue conversations about the messy parts of life, specifically as it relates to the process of deconstructing an evangelical upbringing. Which, obviously, is right up our alley! Ma…
 
We are joined by Candice Czubernat, founder of the nation's premiere LGBTQ telehealth organization, The Christian Closet (thechristiancloset.com) Candice became a dear friend of ours when (among other things) she visited Sojourn Grace years ago, was a brilliant guest speaker, and challenged us as leaders to be MORE clear about just how open and aff…
 
We are joined by Jared Byas, co-host of the wildly popular "The Bible for Normal People Podcast" as well as author of the recent book, "Love Matters More.” Together we dive in to topics such as the three different kinds of "truth," as well as why it is that people are more likely to change when they are accepted as opposed to judged. Other Segments…
 
The Kate & Colby Show is joined LIVE by best-selling author, activist, and personal hero of the hosts, Brian McLaren. Brian joined us to talk about his most recent book, “Faith After Doubt: Why Your Beliefs Stopped Working and What to Do About it.” We had an incredible time talking with him about the stages of faith, the important role of doubt, an…
 
The Kate & Colby Show LIVE kicks off a brand new, bigger than ever season! Every Wednesday night at 7pm PST we go LIVE on YouTube and FB to do “Holistic Care for the Soul.” For season 6 we are bringing in one amazing human after another, all who do incredible work in helping others care for their Soul. For this Season Premiere episode we are joined…
 
Best Selling author of multiple Children’s Books, including “When God Made You” and “When I Pray for You,” Matthew Paul Turner joins the show to talk about (among other things) his newest work, “All the Colors of Christmas.” On tonight’s show we do a Viewer Check-in about your “irrational” fear (then debate the usage of the term “irrational”). Duri…
 
No one is “grateful” for the coronavirus pandemic and subsequent quarantine life. AND, also, there have been things that have happened during—and as a result of—it that, well, we might really be thankful for. In this week’s show, Kate and Colby discuss navigating that tension. Of honoring and holding space for life’s Lemons, but also being grateful…
 
On this week's live Kate & Colby Show we welcome special guest Ben Grace! Ben is a singer-songwriter based out of San Diego who's first full length album, "As if Words Could Heal the Wounds" just recently dropped. It's a gorgeous exploration of love, loss, and the complexities of the human soul. Plus, Kate and Colby check in with you about how your…
 
It’s the night after the 2020 Election, we sat down, turned on the camera, and invited you—our Pod Pham—to sit and be with us. Thanks for sharing the space with us as we shared how the watching of the election results impacted our souls. Plus, we shared some things that are steadying our souls at the moment: For Kate, “The is Us” on ABC. For Colby,…
 
Hey Pod Pham! This is our PREMIERE episode of The Kate & Colby Show: LIVE! We’ve decided to start live-streaming our podcasts, Wednesday nights at 7pm on YouTube and Facebook. Please join in, it’s a ton of fun! For the podcasts, then, we’ll take the audio from the Live Show and put it here in your normal channels. For this first episode, Kate and C…
 
Maybe you, like us, grew up in a religious context where “justice” was basically just something God would deal with—and much later down the road. In this episode, we share how our evolving beliefs led us to understand that seeking justice HERE and NOW is very, very much a part of what it means to have and do Faith. If God hears the cries of the opp…
 
Last week we described faith as, “The things we choose to believe, which inform how we choose to act.” Some people weren’t digging our use of the word “choice.” So in this message, we explore how much agency do we really have in terms of what we believe and how we act. Is it really our “choice?” Such a fascinating conversation.…
 
Can we talk about FAITH for a bit? What IS it? Why do we have it? How do we practice it? In this episode, we share a talk that we gave together at Sojourn Grace Collective exploring two lexical categories of the word faith: as a noun and a verb. Sometimes we need to swing the pendulum from one usage to another as we round out what it means to have/…
 
Our religious heritage taught us to mistrust our emotions, thus creating a whirlwind of shame and confusion. In this, our final of a three part series on emotional wellbeing and intelligence, we dig in to how Christianity contributed to the emotional stunting of its adherents. Plus, Colby shares about the only 3 times he can remember crying as a ki…
 
Myth: Woman have too many emotions, Men have none. Can we talk about that, please? What if ALL humans have deep emotional realities, but women (for a number of reasons) tend to be more connected/in-tune with them than men. Kate shares how society contributes to this dynamic, and Colby shares how he spent most of his life completely detached from hi…
 
Have you ever been told “stop being so emotional?” Or maybe thought, “wow, that person isn’t thinking with their head, they’re being controlled by their emotions.” In this episode, Kate and Colby dive in to this phenomenon, where society often over values what we call “rational thinking” and under vales our emotional capacity. This often shows up i…
 
In this mini-episode, Colby offers a guided meditation focused on identifying and moving through a defensive response. Specially designed for this moment, those of us who are white are being challenged right now to learn better how to listen and learn about racial injustice WITHOUT getting defensive about it. For some of us, that’s easier said than…
 
So about that whole “perfectionism” thing… yeah, let’s talk about that. Both of us are perfectionists, but each in our own unique way. Learn as Kate encourages us to not try and do away with those parts of us, but rather try and turn up the things to help us find balance. Plus: an insightful conversation about the illusion of a “perfect fit” in rel…
 
We are BAAAACK! Hey PodPham, we’ve missed you. And since we’ve been apart, a lot has happened… most notably, a worldwide viral sensation known as COVID-19. We are kicking off our brand new season by talking openly about what life has been like for us during quarantine. Turns out, it’s been quite the Teacher. In this episode we talk about mental hea…
 
In our first season of this podcast, we used to end each episode with a quick example of a piece of art, a book, a quote, or something else that was making us come alive—i.e., inspiring, motivating, and moving us. We haven't done that in awhile, but today that changes. Here's a whole entire episode of us sharing all the things that are giving us ma…
 
Hello Pod Pham, we're just so happy to introduce you to some of our favorite people this week! Yes, Erica and Logan Martin are family (Colby and Logan are brothers), but that's far from the only reason why we wanted to sit down and have a conversation with them. They have an incredible story about their journey together and as individuals as they'v…
 
Pod Pham! We are so, so delighted to bring you today's conversation. Welcome Paula Stone Williams: pastor, counselor, coach, speaker, and so much more. We have both been so lucky to get to know Paula as a friend—she is a kind, wise, straight shooter who has done so much to help us come more alive. If you haven't encountered her yet, it's a treat to…
 
Pod Pham, check it out: For the first time in our show’s history we have guests! In this rambunctious and oft-tangented (but the tangents are GOOD, dangit!) episode we sit down with the co-hosts of one of our favorite podcasts, Heathen: Spiritual Conversations for the Godless. Matthew Blake and Karyn Thurston host an incredible podcast that creates…
 
Gardening & woodworking & parenting, oh my. We love the metaphors that kinder-gardener Alison Gopnik shared on a recent episode of NPR's Hidden Brain podcast, and it sparked our own discussion about raising children. Let's talk the relatively new idea of "parenting," and what we can learn from the art of gardening.…
 
What happens when you're already enjoying a book before you realize its author is an unofficial spokesperson for the Alt Right? Today's conversation is a deeply nuanced look at our reactions and responses to people when we discover they're not perfect, have different ideologies than we do, or break faith with us—otherwise known as "cancel culture."…
 
Welcome to season three of The Kate and Colby Show! We're excited to be back and we have a whole new series of questions and topics to talk through, starting with what it's like to grow up girl. Kate shares a piece she wrote about how it comes to be that the only question young girls are taught to answer is, Am I pretty? Then we talk it out: femini…
 
(Originally aired December 20, 2017.) Welcome to the final episode of season 1! Kate and Colby close out their 4-part discussion about their faith journeys by talking about how they're different now that they've moved from a conservative to a more progressive understanding of Christianity, as well as the (surprisingly few) things they would tell th…
 
Ready to get real? Kate and Colby talk about the myth of a Christian marriage and share some of their own story along the way. Kate imagines what she'd do with a time machine - do we tell our younger selves the things we've learned, or do we let them experience the reckonings to come? Lastly, what do pop star P!nk and those cute Dreamworks Trolls h…
 
(Original air date: January 17, 2018) We're continuing to sift through some of the questions you've sent our way, and today's is a doozy! Andrea wrote in to share that she's become an "accidental agnostic," and wanted to know what we think about the nature of God. Being, spirit, energy, force, guy in the sky—what do we mean when we say "God?" Let's…
 
(Original air date: October 24, 2017) This week Colby talks about what it means to be in the splash zone, then he and Kate get into current events with a discussion about Colin Kaepernick, the NFL, and #TakeAKnee before finishing with two very different but equally impactful book recommendations to help you come more alive.…
 
It's the season 2 finale! We've had a great time responding to a whole bunch of listener questions in this season, and we're closing it out with one more big one. Julie wrote to us sharing her thoughts about how we can learn so much from other religions when we approach one another with respect and open minds, but what do we do about the seemingly …
 
A very important question—which came first, the chicken or the egg?—leads to an even more important question: what is masculinity? This extension of last week's episode where Kate interviewed Colby goes deeper into what we've both been learning about gender roles and how we're not truly whole people when we only live into the parts society tells us…
 
A couple of episodes ago, we let Colby ask the questions as he interviewed Kate. Today, we're flipping the script and it's Kate's turn to draw some interesting stories out of Colby as we get to know him better. We talked career choices, masculinity, what it's like to be a published author, and more. Find out a bit more about what makes Colby tick i…
 
This week's question from Mary Jo is a straightforward one: what are the most important things you teach your kids? From bodies and boundaries to hospitality to emotional intelligence, here are some of those top priorities for us. Parenting is hard and beautiful and one of the most important things many of us will ever do. Here's to the parents out…
 
The Kate Interview! We've had such a great time answering listener questions in Season 2 of The Kate and Colby Show. In today's very special episode, we decided to shake things up a bit. How about Colby asks Kate some questions of his own? Get to know Kate a little better through this incisive, world-premiere face-to-face interview from one host to…
 
We are so thankful for today's listener question. It's not often these days that people who find themselves disagreeing are willing to work to understand one another, but that's exactly what Liza is doing. She is attempting to better understand progressive Christianity as someone who considers herself a modern Christian, but who holds to some more …
 
Today's question comes from Sara, who is working out how to handle a message she carries with her from her time in a traditional evangelical upbringing. Sara really just feels compelled to live what she calls a simple life: raise great kids, take care of the land she feels fortunate to live on, love the hell out of her husband. But she struggles wi…
 
Rebekah sent us a great question to discuss this week. She is dating—and lately, talking marriage and kids with—a partner who is agnostic, which has created some tension with her traditionally conservative Christian family. She was raised to believe that being "unequally yoked with unbelievers" is a pretty serious offense. We can relate. Let's talk…
 
We are still taking questions! This week, Matt, who is a worship leader at a progressive Christian church, writes in with a question we've found to be a common one—in fact, it's one we've asked ourselves over the years. When you've embraced a more open and progressive theology, how do then find ways to worship that better align with these values? T…
 
This week's question comes from Tina, who is looking for a little guidance on how to overcome the fear that inevitably shows up when your soul is calling you to make, write, create, say, and share something. This question got us very excited, because we LOVE to make stuff and we know how challenging the creative process can be, especially when you'…
 
We're continuing to answer listener questions, and this week's comes from James, who champions feminism AND also likes to hold doors for the women he dates. What place, if any, does chivalry have in modern relationships between women and men? There are quite a few layers to this quandary, and today we're going to unpack the roots of chivalry, power…
 
We're continuing to sift through some of the questions you've sent our way, and today's is a doozy! Andrea wrote in to share that she's become an "accidental agnostic," and wanted to know what we think about the nature of God. Being, spirit, energy, force, guy in the sky—what do we mean when we say "God?" Let's dive in the deep end together! thekat…
 
SEASON 2 PREMIERE. Happy New Year and welcome back to The Kate and Colby Show! We're starting our second season by answering YOUR questions! You've been talking to us, and we're excited to respond to some of the great comments and questions you've sent our way. Today, we're responding to Mackenzie who asked: how do I move from a worldview that says…
 
Part 4 of 4. Welcome to the final episode of 2017! Kate and Colby close out their 4-part discussion about their faith journeys by talking about how they're different now that they've moved from a conservative to a more progressive understanding of Christianity, as well as the (surprisingly few) things they would tell their younger selves about what…
 
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